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People Swapping PS3s for Wiis? 328

Posted by ScuttleMonkey from the hardware-horse-trading dept.
An anonymous reader writes "To add to Sony's problems with the PS3 launch, it now appears that some Playstation 3 owners are trying to trade their PS3s for Wiis. The author writes: 'There's also speculation that people want the Wii because the PS3s best game is Resistance: Fall of Man. This, of course, forget that there are plenty of cool PS3 games on the way, and the PS3 has its own motion sensing technology, which, while not as good as the Wii, is still pretty cool and opens up Sony to emulate some of the Wii's successes.'"
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  • I'd trade in too (Score:5, Funny)

    by schnits0r ( 633893 ) * <nathannd@@@sasktel...net> on Monday December 25, 2006 @11:41PM (#17363122) Homepage Journal
    I'd trade in too if my Wii looked like this [youtube.com].

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by donaldm ( 919619 )
      Who cares about a Wii or Xbox360 or PS3 but after I think you will need a PS3 just to relax with, so you can build up your strength for another round of bedroom sport.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by aliquis ( 678370 )
      To me it's the opposit, I'd trade if my PS3 looked like that ;)

      (Or well, rather, I wouldn't have got the PS3 in the first place.)
    • Oh my god.

      I can barely breath.

      That's so funny.

      And I want a wii!

      First console, I *ever* wanted. I even went out and braved several stores before I gave up and decided I'll get one in January.

      Typical scenario.
      me: do you have any wii's?
      them: No
      them2: No, would you like to buy a PS3?
      them3: No, we got in 25 this morning and they sold to the people who happened to be in the area when we unpacked them in 15 minutes, would you like to buy a PS3?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by tedgyz ( 515156 ) *
      The "hot" chick is a butter face. However, the geek that thought this up gets a bonus multiplier for actually getting 2 girls in the same room.

  • To be fair (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Shados ( 741919 ) on Monday December 25, 2006 @11:41PM (#17363134)
    To be fair, it does happen the other way around plenty, and with 360s, too. I've seen a lot of people return their Wiis when they learnt that online play wouldn't be Nintendo's main focus.

    Not enough people, unfortunately, since I got Zelda for christmas, and I have no Wii to play it on >. I had several chances at a PS3, but not at a Wii, grrrrrrr...

  • I think my GFs parents were going to give us a PS3 (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 25, 2006 @11:42PM (#17363138)
    but that didn't happen...

    An interesting story for my fellow dotters on a Christmas night...potentially offtopic, but probably not...

    So I'm over my girlfriend's parents' house this evening for Christmas dinner. First Christmas for the both of us together, though I've been to the parents' house several times before, a nice yet cozy 3/1.5 built in the 1950s. We were getting ready to sit down for dinner, with the presents to be exchanged after dessert.

    So we're in the living room making the normal chit-chat about work and family and presents, yada yada yada. And then it hits me. That "you know what it means when it happens" cramp in your colon. And then a bubble or two. I'm percolating. A cold sweat comes over me. And then your intestines tell your brain in no uncertain terms: things will be exiting soon, at a very rapid pace.

    So I excuse myself from the conversation, sweat already forming on my brow, and I make my way to the back bedroom to purge this unrelenting force from my bowels. But oh my God...my GF's father is in the back bathroom. The only other bathroom is a small bath located directly off of the living room itself. Oh no, that would never do. But alas, the percolation continues and my colon is screaming for purging. This will wait no longer.

    So I return to the living room, no time for chit chat, though everyone there can sense that something is not quite right by the sweat pouring down my forehead and the singular purpose on my face. I plow my way into the guest bathroom and barely have time to sit on the toilet before the full force of a major colon blow bellows forth from my rectum. The sound virtually echoes in the small half bath and then the purging continues unabated, half diarrhea half flatulence over and over, shit splashing up on my backside. This process continues for a good 5 minutes before the wave is over. And now I sit there, brown liquid dripping off my anus, dripping off the sides and lid of the toilet.

    And I ponder how I will exit the bathroom.

    Do I pretend nothing happened. Do I play the sympathy angle? Play the "I'm sick sweetheart" angle? I decide to just play it off and pretend nothing happened. Perhaps they hadn't heard anything. Maybe it was all in my mind how noisy and guttural the sounds were.

    So I flush, do my best to tidy up the bowl with the tiny little toilet brush they had next to the toilet. Wash, and exit.

    And I exit to the horrified wide-eyed look of everyone in the living room. Yes, Virginia, it was really that loud apparently. GF's mom asks me if I'm ok. I play it off like, why yes, I'm fine, why? And then it hits. Like a brown fog descending on the valley, the odor from the bathroom washes over us like a wave from hell. I had turned the entire living room into a dutch oven. Oh my god.

    So I did the only thing I could come up with quickly and motioned to the GF that we had to leave. And we made our quick apologies and made our way to the exit, while her mom noticeably gagged on the stench that had blown out of my asshole. And on our way out -- which the GF's mom by the way didn't object to at all (she was likely in a state of shock over what she had witnessed) -- the GF's dad comes out from the back bedroom and the stench hits him like a baseball bat to the face. The expression on his face was priceless, you'd think he had just walked into a room filled with mustard gas.

    At that point, we quickly departed leaving behind a half dozen victims of my gastric evacuation. Merry fucking Christmas, LOL.

    At first the GF was mad, but after we started laughing about it (and about a few of the "victims" whom we both can't stand) all was forgiven. I can't imagine eating Christmas dinner in that house, with it wreaking of shit and bowel blowback.

  • Other way around (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Tourney3p0 ( 772619 ) on Monday December 25, 2006 @11:47PM (#17363168)
    I'll gladly trade my lightly used Wii for a new or lightly used PS3. Any takers?
    • Not the linked article, the article the linked article linked to...

      In my search of Austin, I only turned up 6 total people who wanted to trade their PS3 for a Wii, so I moved on to New York City, which boasted a pretty substantial 18 desired trades. Here's where it gets crazy: in San Francisco, there are 48 different PS3 for Wii trades going on at this moment. Now, keep in mind, most of these trades are requesting a Wii plus cash difference, but there is the occasional barter that will take a loss just to
      • Reminds me of that recent Apple Music Store story: Online music sales at the Apple Music Store are plummeting (oh, and so are everybody elses, some even more than the Apple Music Store).

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by shadowmas ( 697397 )
        It's ok if people ask for the cash difference the main point of the story is that people seem to prefer having a Wii to a PS3. and this is bad for Sony since if most people regret buying a PS3 and pass on the message to their friends it might tip a few buying decision to the favour of Wii.

        on the other hand 70 or so trades out of (i assume) thousands of PS3 sales wouldnt really make much of a difference.

        • Re:From the actual article (Score:4, Insightful)

          by still_sick ( 585332 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @03:49AM (#17364454)
          It's ok if people ask for the cash difference the main point of the story is that people seem to prefer having a Wii to a PS3. and this is bad for Sony since if most people regret buying a PS3 and pass on the message to their friends it might tip a few buying decision to the favour of Wii.

          on the other hand 70 or so trades out of (i assume) thousands of PS3 sales wouldnt really make much of a difference.

          But how many of the "70 or so" traders NEVER wanted a PS3 - buying them only to resell it for a profit?

          Now that EBay prices are nearing MSRP, how many of the people just want to get rid of their 'investment'?

          I personally know one person who camped out for a launch PS3 only to resell it, then use the profits to get himself a 'free' Wii and big Plasma TV. His big dreams very quickly shrunk to simply wanting to get rid of the PS3 (that he bought but NEVER wanted) without taking a loss, and just buying a Wii with his own money.

          The whole assumption that this is happening because all these people are SO disappointed with their PS3s and the Wii is SO superior is a gigantic leap of logic.
          • 1) find a sucker with a wii (ebaying for $500) to give you $380 + Wii for your PS3.
            2) sell wii for $250.
            3) Final take = 380+250 = 730 ($100 profit- not what you wanted but better than nothing).
            4) Buy console you actually want in march at a discount or as part of some kind of package with games.
            • Grrr. Slash dot -- can't fix errors...
              2) Sell wii for $500.
              3) Final take = 380 + 500 (880 - 630 = 250 profit).

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Monday December 25, 2006 @11:54PM (#17363206)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

    • Re:Why I've adopted my girlfriend's philosophy (Score:5, Informative)

      by powerlord ( 28156 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @12:04AM (#17363258) Journal
      there's no reason for a guy like me to buy a PS3 for at least a year and a half.


      At which point they should have the supply problems nixed, and there should be quite a number of games that you might be looking forward to playing on it.

      Kinda reminds me of when the PS2 launched.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Bastian ( 66383 )
      Seems like a good philosophy. I applied the same policy and waited before making a decision on the PSP, and I'm glad I did. Everyone I know who bought one right away is now letting it collect dust, apparently because there just aren't any great games coming out for it.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by aliquis ( 678370 )
        So did you got nothing at all or the DS? If you like:
        * Old school 2D scrollers (New super mario bros, Yoshis island ds, 2 castlevania titles, megaman zx, princess peach, star-fi, ..)
        * Puzzle games (Kirby, yoshi touch&go, maybe even zookeeper and meteos thought I don't like them that much.)
        * RPGs (One final fantasy released, two in the works, Children of mana, Zelda)
        Also various platform games and so on, I doubt it will disappoint you.

        The DS is probably NOT the perfect console for people who want to play
        • Oh, I forgot the booktype/story telling kind of games, of which the lawyer games seems the most liked but there are others released/in the works aswell.

          (Phoenix Wright: Ace attorny and the follow up, Another Code and the follow up, Hotel Dusk, ...)

          Also I guess the "non-game titles" should be mentioned, such as the brain training, cooking game, and such, which I don't care about ;D

    • Re:Why I've adopted my girlfriend's philosophy (Score:5, Insightful)

      by HappySqurriel ( 1010623 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @12:05AM (#17363272)
      To be honest, the reason I believe that Nintendo has been so successful (so far) with the Wii is that they recognized a need in the market and they built a system to fill that need. Essentially, Nintendo thought that there was a need for an inexpensive, easy to develop for, arcade-like system that could provide a new game play experience; and that is what they delivered.

      Not to be too negative about the PS3, but the PS3 is designed to be "Exactly like every other system in history ... only better" whereas the Wii is designed to be "Something different". In my opinion the Wii is successful because of how unique it is.

      • Re:Why I've adopted my girlfriend's philosophy (Score:5, Insightful)

        by cgenman ( 325138 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @02:20AM (#17364002) Homepage
        To expand on this, I've tried putting a PS2 dual-shock into the hands of new players, like my girlfriend and my mother. "What's this?" they inevitably ask. It's an intimidatingly big mass of buttons, switches, diodes, etc. Add a "Wii-like" tilt sensor, and you just make something even LESS accessible.

        Compare that to the Wii. It's a remote control that points. Everyone can play wii bowling. Everyone can navigate the metagame without wondering if they should use the d-pad or the left or right analog sticks. It's intuitive. You don't have to think as much about it. You can just get on with the business of playing games.

        In addition to inexpensive, easy to develop for, unique, and short-time period experiences, the Wii also provides the instant accessibility that is sorely lacking in today's systems. Learning to play Rockstar's Table Tennis on the 360 takes about 1/2 hour. Learning to play Tennis on the Wii takes about 10 seconds. That's a huge difference if you're just trying to relax for a moment between sending the kids off to school and leaving for work yourself.

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by trawg ( 308495 )

          Compare that to the Wii. It's a remote control that points. Everyone can play wii bowling. Everyone can navigate the metagame without wondering if they should use the d-pad or the left or right analog sticks. It's intuitive. You don't have to think as much about it. You can just get on with the business of playing games.

          I can't agree more. I just came back from Christmas day with the family where after seeing me, my brother and my sister playing Wii, everyone from my 4 year old cousin to my 80 year old g

        • This is absolutely true. The prime example is a female friend of mine. Whenever the topic comes to video games, she explains that she doesn't play videogames because they're too complicated. "I'm too stupid," she'll exclaim. She's not stupid at all (she's studying law, and she's really very sharp), and she's also not not playing video games: She does play Donkey Konga and Dance Dance Revolution, and she loves Magnetica on the DS. She'd never even pick up a normal controller, but she does like playing Wii.

          I

        • To expand on this, I've tried putting a PS2 dual-shock into the hands of new players, like my girlfriend and my mother. "What's this?" they inevitably ask. It's an intimidatingly big mass of buttons, switches, diodes, etc. Add a "Wii-like" tilt sensor, and you just make something even LESS accessible.

          Hey, I'm no n00b to gaming, and that damned controller freaks me out too! But it's not simply about the number of buttons. I'll list the issues:

          Four triggers
          The main problem. You have to either use your middle

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by seebs ( 15766 )
          Let me put this ease of use thing in perspective.

          My in-laws were over a while back, with their kid (3 years, 11 1/2 months). He played Wii bowling. It took him two or three tries usually to roll the ball, because he has a hard time timing the release, but he could play the game.

          When they came over for Christmas, he asked if he could play bowling again. We set it up. At age 4, and a couple of weeks, he can play the game moderately successfully. So can my mother-in-law, who is in no way a gamer.

          Now, can

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by wizrd_nml ( 661928 )
      I've been watching the console discussion taking place for the last couple of weeks and it's pretty clear that PS3 bashing has become the norm. Personally, I don't think I will ever buy a PS3, simply because I care more about fun games rather than good graphics.

      But I don't think we should be too quick to judge the PS3 as "no better than their competition". The way it's configured, the PS3 has the potential to be better than the competition. I think it's just a matter of time before game developers get used

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Cerebus ( 10185 )
        The potential of the cell processor architecture is significant. Once developers figure out how to make optimal use of it it could potentially take games to a new level (think realistic physics, better AI, a better online experience, etc..).

        Concomitant with that we should also think "longer development cycles and more expensive games." I think these will go hand in hand with developers trying to push the envelope on the Cell.

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by smash ( 1351 )

          Concomitant with that we should also think "longer development cycles and more expensive games." I think these will go hand in hand with developers trying to push the envelope on the Cell.

          Maybe, maybe not.

          If sony release (or a dev creates, in their first/second gen titles) a bunch of libraries and/or an optimising compiler to simplify development for it, perhaps it will be "easier" to develop for because there could be less need to optimise the game to "fit" within the hardware's abilities.

          The PC plat

          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            by Stormwatch ( 703920 )

            Also, the dreamcast was supposedly easier to develop for than the PS2, due to it's (optional, perhaps? I know sega rally 2 uses it) use of WinCE, and look what happened there.

            WinCE was optional. It was not even built-in. Very few games used it, mostly simple-looking ones and PC ports (Armada, Sega Swirl, Railroad Tycoon), because it didn't perform as well as using Sega's own stuff. Sega Rally 2 was a bit of a miracle, and even then it had some framerate issues. But even without that, the Dreamcast was rega

      • The potential of the cell processor architecture is significant. Once developers figure out how to make optimal use of it it could potentially take games to a new level (think realistic physics, better AI, a better online experience, etc..)

        How will the Cell processor help with AI? AI works better on a general-purpose processor. The 360 has the advantage here, with three general purpose cores, each with two hardware threads. The Cell has one general purpose core, with two threads.

      • Re: (Score:2, Redundant)

        by The Evil Couch ( 621105 )
        In any case, Blu-ray allows game developers to put more content on the PS3 version of their games. This initially might just be bonus features (such as the-making-of videos) but eventually will translate into more gameplay content (extra levels perhaps?)

        Bonus features like that already exist on modern DVD-based games, but most games out there still aren't filling up a single-layer DVD, let alone a dual-layer or a Blu-ray disk. Extra disk space is a total non-event.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by cgenman ( 325138 )
        The sixaxis was overshadowed by the Wii's revolutionary controller, but it's still a very cool feature and makes the XBox 360's controller look disabled by comparison

        No offence, but have you used the sixaxis? The actual tilt mechanism is quite, quite laggy. And unfortunately in any control interface a little bit of lag will lead to a lot of player overcompensation oscillation cycles. It's basically unusable in the current crop of games, though the potential exists that they could improve their bluetooth
      • In any case, Blu-ray allows game developers to put more content on the PS3 version of their games. This initially might just be bonus features (such as the-making-of videos) but eventually will translate into more gameplay content (extra levels perhaps?)

        Hah!

        Blu-Ray will get us one thing and one thing only:

        "Xenosaga Syndrome" will become terminal.

      • You sound just like Sony's PR...

        What we are discussing here is if we really need better physics and graphics (the cell won't make a better online experience). Better AI is probably a good thing, but the cell won't also help it that much.

        Also, the cell is HARD to program for. VERY HARD. A good programer can make efficient code for it, but any miss can destroy the performance of the hole program. It would be very nice to have optimizing compilers for the platform, and to get libraries that solve the hard pa

      • The sixaxis was overshadowed by the Wii's revolutionary controller, but it's still a very cool feature and makes the XBox 360's controller look disabled by comparison

        But doesn't the 360 controller's vibrate function make the sixaxis controller look disabled by comparison?

    • Re:Why I've adopted my girlfriend's philosophy (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Medgur ( 172679 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @02:00AM (#17363876) Homepage
      There is no such thing as a former Dreamcast fan. There are only Dreamcast fans who lament its early commercial demise.

    • Re:Why I've adopted my girlfriend's philosophy (Score:5, Insightful)

      by 2ms ( 232331 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @02:16AM (#17363978)
      It was so funny I remember people talking about how the PS2 was going to be a supercomputer not allowed into certain countries because it was so powerful it could give them nukes and how its emotion engine was going to make gaming almost indistinguishable from the real world. It was the biggest sham in the world. There were several games that actually looked better on Dreamcast than they did on the PS2.

      This is actually the strategy that MS has used whenever Macs start getting a lot of attention. MS always says they have an OS with everything that Mac has Plus a whole bunch of new things that are going to revolutionize everything. And then the OS comes out five years late with, not only nothing revolutionary, but not even having the things Mac had 5 years earlier (two most salient examples: Win95 was supposed to be all new OS but at last second was switched to DOS at heart, Vista was supposed to have all these new techs yet now, years late, it's just terribly resource intensive XP with copy of Mac Aqua GUI).

      I think this is Sony's strategy. They come up with these catchy names to go along with console like Emotion Engine or Cell (which really just another IBM chip only with more spikes and valleys in its capabilities -- not net positive) and trumpet them like nothing has ever been trumpeted before in front of would-be other console buyers for two years ahead of actual release just so that people will figure they better wait until the PS comes out because it is going to be teh omg SO revolutionary. Which it never is. Rant over. It just funny. It's sort of a total business model.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by scot4875 ( 542869 )
        Your example of Win95 vs. whatever version of Mac OS was out at the time is a pretty terrible one.

        Say what you want about it, but Win95 was the first end-user-oriented, preemptive multitasking, (poorly) protected-memory operating system. (We won't count OS/2, because we all know that despite its marketing, it was never end-user-oriented) Crow all you want about OSX, but '95 had been through 3 major revisions by the time it showed up, and Win2k showed up at approximately the same time.

        And as for it being D
    • The problem with that is by the time you're ready to buy a PS3, there'll be a PS4 released shortly so all of the companies will stop making PS3 games.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by yulek ( 202118 )
      I like this point a lot. Because if you think about it, the Wii already has much of the same appeal that made the iPod so damn pervasive. And no, I don't mean it being white... But you have to admit the comparisons are many fold. The iPod was not technologically the most advanced mp3 player. The iPod was designed to be super user friendly. The iPod was released with (relative to the times) superb software support.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by DrXym ( 126579 )
      on video games. She and her family won't buy a new console for at least the first six months that it's out because they want to see what actually comes out for it, what others think, how many bugs it has, etc. I'm not surprised in the least now because the PS3 is very expensive, said to be rushed in a number of areas, and well, wasn't quite worth the hype.

      Which is smart advice. It is UTTERLY POINTLESS to buy a new console for 6 months because there nothing to play on it. That goes for the 360, PS3 or Wii.

  • Buyer's remorse (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jours ( 663228 ) on Monday December 25, 2006 @11:56PM (#17363214)
    I tell you what...for all the hype around these things just a few weeks ago, I've had three chances to buy one (a PS3) in the last few days. One was a friend who bought two of them for Ebay and couldn't sell them at all. The other two times were regular retail stores while I was Christmas shopping. I passed all three times. Not sure why but the price of those things sure made me think twice.

    I can certainly see buyer's remorse sneaking in after people play it for a few days and realize that maybe it isn't $500 cooler than their old PS2.
    • Confession (and this will drop karma):

      When I heard the store I was in announce they had three PS3's, I figured they'd be gone in a minute and this was my chance to make a profit. I was able to get one.

      Then I found out, the hard way:

      a) They are superabundant on ebay and only selling for about retail.
      b) Amazon won't let you sell one unless you have a long history.
      c) Craigslist has "scalper hunters" who are flagging PS3 sales to get them removed.

      Because of a), it is unlikely that you can make much reselling i

    • Personal Experience (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Chibi Merrow ( 226057 ) <mrmerrow&monkeyinfinity,net> on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @06:53AM (#17365194) Homepage Journal
      Sunday morning (Christmas Eve) about 10AM we met my Dad at Best Buy because he wanted to buy the family a DVR. After wandering around for over an hour (and buying a DVD-R instead, d'oh) we passed a table in the front of the store where a manager type was standing over some boxes. He looked at us and said "Anyone want a PS3?"

      I realized he had four PS3s on the table. I said "No, thanks." and kept walking. Chuckling to my fiance about it.

      I remembered that a friend of the family was looking for one, so I started a long chain of calls to get in contact with them. Her son arrived a little over an hour later to pick one up.

      To see four PS3s sitting on the table.

      In the front of the store.

      With a guy asking everyone who passed if they wanted one.

      On Christmas Eve.

      This does not bode well.
  • From the linked article:

    I would love to confirm these thoughts, but all of the people I've tried to contact to ask why they're selling their systems either declined to comment or didn't have time.

    And posted anonymously by Jason, no less.

  • How is this news? (Score:4, Funny)

    by cdogbert ( 964753 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @12:03AM (#17363254)
    People are trading PS3's and Wii's for money, too! Shocking!

  • Imagine that... (Score:4, Funny)

    by sammaffei ( 565627 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @12:09AM (#17363300)
    ..people wanting to play something that's fun. What's the video game industry coming too...

  • My Humble Opinion (Score:4, Interesting)

    by NetJunkie ( 56134 ) <jason.nashNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @12:17AM (#17363352)
    Friend loaned me his PS3. Meh. If Resistance is THE game to own for it right now, save your money. GoW is 10x the game. The new GT HD "concept" demo is pretty good, but as for graphics I think PGR3 looked every bit as good a year ago. Physics in the game? That's a different story. Sony's network implementation leaves a LOT to be desired. I'll happily keep paying my $50/year Live membership over Sony's free offering. I couldn't even use my normal nickname since Junkie is a banned word on their service.

    I love consoles and I'm sure I'll end up with one...but it'll be at least 6 months. Luckily I just moved to a 1080p DLP set from my older HD RPTV that didn't do 720p. If I had my old set everything I've played except for GT HD would have been shown in 480p.

  • Wrong, wrong, wrong. (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @12:18AM (#17363366)
    The PS3 doesn't have motion-sensing technology. It has gyros that can sense the controller's tilt. No MEMS accelerometers, and no position sensitivity.

    It's a cheap knockoff, and everybody knows it except idiot Sony fanboys.

  • A PS3 just went for $630 on eBay. Almost down to retail. We'll probably see the speculators trying to dump unsold stock starting tomorrow.

    • ebay fees, paypal fees, shipping costs, sales tax on the initial purchase of the PS3...

      unless the seller is (over)charging $100 for shipping, they could have lost money on this sale.

      Compared to the Wii, which is still going for $400+ It's still worth a professional ebay sellers time to snatch them up as soon as they go on sale, and flip them on ebay.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by tgd ( 2822 )
      They've been selling well below retail for about ten days now, most of the time.

      Silly, actually... once the market dropped I'm surprised people didn't just return them.

  • PS3 sucks (Score:2, Interesting)

    by mrshowtime ( 562809 )
    I own all three systems and generally don't play favourites, but I have had the most fun on the 360, followed very closely by the Wii and I have had NO fun with any of the PS3 games. The PS3's "showcase" game: Resistance: Fall of Man is a joke, a total and utter joke. My friends came over and watched me play the game from the start without sound (we had yet to hook up my Christmas present (new audio system) and were laughing our asses off at how stupid EVERYTHING in the game is. The A.I. is sooooooooo st
    • But my fangirlism for Insomniac Games will not allow you to badmouth Resistance! Even if Sony is completely insane, Insomniac knows what they're doing, and the detail of theirs being the best game for the console right now proves that.

      I have no reason to believe that this game isn't top-notch, except for the detail of "I haven't played it yet". That should be corrected over the next few weeks at minimum.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Lumpy ( 12016 )
      True! I also noticed how crappy the AI was in that game. Compared to Quake4 that damned AI started acting like another player to the point that I wondered if I was playing online for a moment. No visible pattern (I did not get it cornered though) and it was doing things that I would have done to avoid getting shot.

      Yes I was given a couple of copies of Q4 for xmas!... we had a gory-death fest at the house with the family.
      (Gotta love it when games hit the bargain bin! $19.95 each!)

  • I wish I didn't, but I did... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by saunderscc ( 1014083 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @12:43AM (#17363490)
    ...buy a PS3 at launch. It is an abortion. The Wii is fun, but it is a lot of hype, too. The controller is certainly unique, but I don't want to play it for 3 hours at a go. Plus, the graphics are lame. Neither of these have well implemented online infrastructure. I don't care about browsing the internet with a console. I just want to play games with friends around the country. If you can get over the fact that the 360 is a MSFT product, it does what it's supposed to do rather well. Ok, so there's no motion control. I'm already tired of the Wii control scheme. The PS3 is back in its box. Resistance is just another game--it just happens to be THE game for the PS3. Maybe I'll hook it up again when F1 2006 comes out in, wait for it, 2007. In the mean time, I'll have wasted a few hundred hours of my life on XBox Live.

    • Re:I wish I didn't, but I did... (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Raenex ( 947668 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @07:33AM (#17365404)
      The 360 is nice except it's too damn noisy. That and all the games for it assume you have a 50" HDTV (text is always too hard to read).
      • Regarding noise, I've seen the levels vary massively with 360s. My brother's console is no louder than a Wii, but my friends original 360 (which I persuaded him to return as faulty) sounded like a jet engine spinning up. Apparently it's all to do with the DVD drive... some of which seem horribly balanced. It's a concern to me too though, which is why if I bought one I'd be returning them until I got a quiet version. Seems like MS could increase their sales by quite a bit if they made a definitive fix an

  • That's what I did (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Eukaryote ( 93920 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @01:49AM (#17363800)
    That's literally what I did. I went to Target a day early (the 16th) looking for Wiis at their opening. They didn't have them, but they had a bunch of PS3's, so I bought one.

    I ended up trading it today with a friend who got a Wii. I gave him a PS3, he gave me the Wii + 350. Best trade ever.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by dangitman ( 862676 )

      I ended up trading it today with a friend who got a Wii. I gave him a PS3, he gave me the Wii + 350. Best trade ever.

      Is friendship worth anything to you, though?

  • Link to the original (Score:2, Informative)

    by crossmr ( 957846 )
    Why not link to the original story which actually has hard data in it? Rather than some copy which mentions "cragslist" (whatever that is) and uses vague weasel words like "a number of people". 1 is a number, 100 is a number, 0 is a number.

    http://gigagamez.com/2006/12/22/ps3s-being-traded- for-wiis/ [gigagamez.com]

    And the link was even right in the write up, no searching required.
  • I actually saw a few PS3's in stores last weekend (20 gig units) that people didn't seem to eager to buy (one was in target for at least 6 hours). On the other hand i have yet to see a wii in a store.

    I thought about getting the ps3 but it felt silly to get it for just one game i'm sure i'll get one next year

  • Correct me if I'm wrong (Score:5, Funny)

    by glwtta ( 532858 ) on Tuesday December 26, 2006 @09:38AM (#17365930) Homepage
    Wouldn't that imply that exactly as many people are trading their Wiis for PS3s?

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