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The Making of the South Park WoW Episode 70

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Via GameSetWatch, an interview with South Park Producer Frank Agnone, Tech Supervisor J. J. Franzen, and Director of Animation Eric Stough. The discussion, on the Machinima.com site, goes into a lot of detail on how the South Park WoW episode was made, their rationale for doing it, and the amount of assistance they received from Blizzard. From the article: "Q: How long did it take to capture, puppeteer, and edit all the WOW footage? JJ: Uhm... A really really long time. We decided early on to treat the in-game capture sessions as regular film shoots. Our 'set' ended up being the lobby of the studio we produce South Park in. We rented 12 PCs, set up a bunch of folding tables, and were basically good to go. I decided that it would be best to capture on a Mac, since we would be able to capture directly to a quicktime file, which would make getting the captured footage onto the editing system a lot quicker. So, I hauled my shiny new MacPro out into the lobby and spent the next two weeks in a much bigger, if less private, new office. We had 5 'shoot' days, the first on the 20th of Sept. which lasted about 3-5 hours. The next was on the 26th of Sept. which also lasted about 4-5 hours., and then we shot almost every other day up to the last few days of production Monday and Tuesday were full days, with the last day going from 10am Tuesday morning to around 3am Wednesday morning the 3rd of Oct,, the day the episode aired."
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The Making of the South Park WoW Episode

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  • Re:Close (Score:3, Insightful)

    by d3ik (798966) on Saturday November 18, 2006 @04:09PM (#16898422)
    I forget where I read it, but apparently that's normal for South Park. They have a brainstorming session on Thursday (six days before air), then write and produce the entire show over the next few days and send it via satellite to Comedy Central on show day.
  • Re:Close (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Monkey-Man2000 (603495) on Saturday November 18, 2006 @04:21PM (#16898552)
    Panic is a great motivator. . .
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 18, 2006 @04:29PM (#16898636)
    It's just not funny to parrot the same jokes you heard on tv. Didn't you learn anything from Dave Chappelle?
  • by Toby The Economist (811138) on Saturday November 18, 2006 @04:34PM (#16898686)
    After ten years of the Net, do they really not yet know that you don't center large amounts of text people are trying to read?
  • Re:Close (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ResidntGeek (772730) on Saturday November 18, 2006 @04:57PM (#16898858) Journal
    They were able to make fun of Florida in the 2000 election on Novermber 5, 2000.
  • by fermion (181285) * on Saturday November 18, 2006 @07:33PM (#16900128) Homepage Journal
    Really, every south park episode is like this. The only issue is that some people are so sensitive that they can't stand being made fun of, and as a result run home, hide in their parents basement, and post scathing online rebuttals.

    What South Park does is makes us all look at the inane things we do, and in the process, at least for those of us that are reflective, gives us the opportunity to look at these things from the perspective of others. It is high end requirement for enjoying such a low brow show, but hey, that is why South Park is not Family Guy.

    As has been mentioned on numerous occasions, the show does not in particular hate anyone, except for Barbara Steisand, and has no problem with anyone, except for pompous actors, politicians, and other persons. And the one thing we have seen this season, if we can't make fun of everyone, then we shouldn't make fun of anyone.

    My solemn hope is that the WOW folks, and other folks who take video games so seriously that they have become so myopic that they cannot phantom anything outside of the game, will complain so much that we have an even more scathing episode, a la Sally Struthers or Scientology. We call it '40 years old and living in your moms garage.'

  • Re:Close (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Pneuma ROCKS (906002) on Saturday November 18, 2006 @08:23PM (#16900560) Homepage

    Yes, for instance the "Passion of the Jew" episode was aired very shortly after the Passion of the Christ movie was released in theaters, and its controversy as being allegedly anti-semitic and unnecessarily graphic was very, very fresh in people's minds.

    Their response time allows them to be very brilliant with excellent timing.

  • by cheekyboy (598084) on Saturday November 18, 2006 @08:30PM (#16900604) Homepage Journal
    Obviously these jokes get translated by your nurons ultra fast and you instantly know/relate each joke to a previous joke in episode 312.

    Might be a good episode idea about fanbois who no longer find things funny, and act all wholey.

    Why do people still listen to Rolling stones or Beatles or anything? Because OBVIOUS REPEATED stuff thats has ZERO PREDICTABILITY
    often is ENJOYABLE for ever. And not just once. Its like wow, this beer does the same predictable thing it did yesterday, but
    why do I still drink it.... hmmm....

    Would it be so fun to watch an episode and think in your head or predict the next scene every 5 seconds, and then find out
    DAMN, all my predictions are wrong, this episode is wacky. Is it me that I cannot predict any more or am I so out of touch!?!?

    Seeing something pan out to your prediction can be fun and rewarding, confirming that you are on the same wavelength and joy factor.

    And if you are so good, why dont you make your own southpark episode and put it on youtube.

    I suppose you find sex predicatable too, since the outcome (no punn) is the same each time.
  • by dangitman (862676) on Saturday November 18, 2006 @11:48PM (#16901594)
    Wasn't it American Dad that did a MMO episode?

    Ahhh, so it was. It's basically the same people making it anyway, isn't it?

    Even so, while the episode was hilarious and had a true RPG moment ("The Castle Roodpart? Who comes up with these names?"),

    It's "trapdoor" spelled backwaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

    it wasn't WoW and didn't have Blizzard's backing and support. The South Park episode did.

    I think it was a reference to WoW. After all, it is the most popular MMORPG around, and had a very similar style. As for it not being endorsed by Blizzard, I think that makes it cooler. It's pretty lame to go to the actual company. better to just parody them without permission, so you avoid pulling any punches or being seen as an advertisement.

    I also prefer the effort that went into actually drawing the game in American Dad, rather than just using screen capture.

    Also, from TFA, Trey Parker got the idea last season around the time of "In the Closet".

    Or so he says. I can't say I'd trust those guys to tell the truth.

    but because they've started to focus more on the message then the joke.

    i think the problem is exactly the opposite. The old episodes used to be more socially/politically/morally relevant. These days they just seem to focus on celebrities and fads.

    Some of the best later episodes like Ginger Kids, Die Hippie Die, Raisins, Good Times with Weapons, they haven't really had any other point to them except to be funny,

    Wow, I pretty much disagree with all of those. They all had pretty strong social messages, as well as being funny.

    Smug Alert, Cartoon Wars, Million Little Fibers, Manbearpig, and so on, have all failed because they're episodes where the message takes precedence over the funny

    With the exception of Smug Alert, those focused more on celebrities and trends than any message. That those were not funny was not really because of any message - I think it's because they were muddled and heavy-handed. Probably because they weren't really clear about what message they wanted to get across. It was more like "We hate Oprah, We hate Al Gore, We hate environmentalist celebrities," without strong social/political insight. I mean, parody Al Gore, but do it in a way that reflects what he is actually like - don't just make up bullshit. Parody Oprah, but do it with more finesse.

    I just think they've lost a lot of their interesting insights into society and now latch onto celebrities and political half-truths (or outright lies) instead.

    indeed, though, it is interesting how we seem to have almost opposite impressions of which shows have the "message" - because I think your "fun" shows carry more of a message than your "message" shows.

  • by Lemmy Caution (8378) on Sunday November 19, 2006 @04:32AM (#16902692) Homepage
    At a certain point, it stops being humor and is just a Pavlovian response. Usually, the 3rd retelling.

    Why is it geeky to repeat lines over and over? Because it reflects a desire for predictability, control, and safety. Instead of this vague "sense" of humor that seems abstract and fleeting, you have humor-as-algorithm. It is a reliance on the cliche in place of immediate experience. Two of the more interesting 20th century writers about aesthetics - Adorno and Deleuze - describe the cliche as the enemy of authentic experience.

    There is no discovery when you repeat a joke. When something is found funny the first time, it is partially because it uncovers some absurdity or twist in the world.

    Sex is different. Very different. And if one isn't careful, it too can become a cliche.
  • Re:Close (Score:3, Insightful)

    by default luser (529332) on Monday November 20, 2006 @12:20PM (#16915934) Journal
    It apparently didn't work for the season finale, which IMO sucked monkey balls. It felt unfinished, like they forgot the punchline, and was only funny in a "eh" sort of way.

    What, are you so unmotivated that you can't make one intuitive leap for yourself? Are you so retarded that you cannot grasp a simple punchline without having it stuffed in your face?

    -spoilers-

    Stan was obviously in a movie - the twist was he was in the WRONG movie. The losing team in a sports movie is always a shallow group of assholes that get about 5 seconds of screen time off the ice. The winning team is always portrayed as a slightly less-shallow group that you feel sorry for because they're really great guys, but they all suck, and someone is dying of [insert disease here]. The roles were reversed.

    You RARELY see a sports movie from the loser's perspective, because it's just too depressing.

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