Wikipedia Explodes In China

eldavojohn writes "The Chinese have recently been allowed to enjoy the Chinese version of Wikipedia now that the ban has been lifted. And the result is an explosion in use after being banned for a year. From the article, 'Activity on nonprofit Wikimedia Foundation's Chinese Wikipedia site has skyrocketed since its release, which Internet users in China first started reporting on Nov. 10. Since then, the number of new users registering to contribute to the site has exceeded 1,200 a day, up from an average of 300 to 400 prior to the unblocking. The number of new articles posted daily has increased 75% from the week before, with the total now surpassing 100,000, according to the foundation.' No one's sure how long this will be available to the People's Republic of China but hopefully the government will recognize that at least a significant part of the populace enjoys a Wikipedia community."

Tienanmen Square

[Darvin]

Very interesting to see the Tienanmen Square wiki in Chinese. Already it has been locked down due to 'vandalism'

Heh.

See it zh.wikipedia.org/

Re:What's it Like?

[ComaVN]

This page [wikipedia.org] seems to be about the 1989 protests, and it contains the tank man picture (the one mysteriously absent from images.google.cn)

It also seems to be protected because of vandalism...

Re:Censorship is a bad thing

[OmnipotentEntity]

It's right here: Original Page [wikipedia.org] Google translation. [64.233.179.104]

As noted at the top though, People behind the Great Firewall may not be able to access it.

Actual statistics and charts

[fuzheado]

Strangely, the WSJ article does not mention any links or references to where to find the raw data.

It was based on charts and research I did from Beijing. [andrewlih.com]

Cheers.

Re:Censorship is a bad thing

[Sinbios]

Actually, the page is locked due to vandalizing and a dispute notice is put up, just like any other controversial article. And just like other articles, the article itself [wikipedia.org] is pretty objective. As for the death toll specifically, the article says that the number of deaths is disputed; it cites one of the protesters Chai Ling [wikipedia.org] as saying in a recording: "Some say there are about 200 dead, but some claim there are more than 4000. I am not sure of the exact numbers, either." Again, just like any "free" wiki article - explains the controversy and cites an objective source instead of making groundless assertions.

So yeah, I really wish people would stop making snide remarks as if the Chinese wiki is the government's parade ground, without even taking a look at it. Controversial topics aren't really censored, and it operates pretty much like the rest of Wikipedia when it comes to these topics. You have to remember that in the end, it's still managed by Wikipedia moderators, who ideally will try their utmost to ensure that articles are accurate and objective.

Re:Tienanmen Square

[Sinbios]

Link [wikipedia.org]

For those who can't read Chinese, the article is pretty objective in nature and cites multiple sources with varying opinion on topics such as the death toll [wikipedia.org].

Re:What's it Like?

[fuzheado]

No it got blocked halfway through loading the HTML page. Likely the filename was caught by the great firewall filter. But if you named it Pokemonactionfigure.jpg it would have made it fine.

Google Translation of Tiananmen Square Page

[dbabbitt]

Here is the text of http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%85%AD%E5%9B%9B%E4 %BA%8B%E4%BB%B6 [wikipedia.org] above the Table of Contents translated by http://translate.google.com/translate_t [google.com] (white space reinsertion attempted):

Due to the recent frequent sabotage half of this page has been protected, anonymous users or users can register new editor. And if that entries can be obtained for the revised use of the discussion page, or for the discharge of the protection. (Protection is not an authorized version of the current page. In addition, notices of the template was used. To protect the pages please request. ), the latter sections or paragraphs, some of the information is not confirmed or suspicious sources failed at all.

Page confirmed discussions have relevant discussions and courage injected Source! Disputed the accuracy of this article.

The editors need to hang up this template pages illustrate the accuracy of the controversial dialogue, in order to allow the editors to discuss and improve.

Produced by the Beijing Central Academy of Art's "Goddess of Democracy" statue, and later became a symbol of the democratic movement in China in 1989.

Original destroyed, in Vancouver, San Francisco and other cities have copies of legislation in public places. Amplification produced by the Beijing Central Academy of Art's "Goddess of Democracy" statue.later in 1989 became a symbol of the democratic movement in China. Original destroyed, in Vancouver, San Francisco and other cities have copies of legislation in public places. June 4, also known as the 1989 pro-democracy movement (Democratic Movement), the 1989 student movement (Students), the June 4 massacre, the incident. 1989 democratic movement, the 1989 pro-democracy movement at Tiananmen Massacre, the Tiananmen incident, the Chinese government has called the unrest, counter-revolutionary rebellion.The recent political turmoil has renamed the turn of spring and summer, referred to the June 4,it is April 15, 1989 to June 4 and the day after the political events taking place in mainland China.by the mass of students, and public processions and demonstrations Movement. However, during the negotiations between the government and the student body failed to reach consensus and political compromise,Finally, the government convened caused some military force to suppress (exact numbers are unknown - exists from several hundred to several thousand of view) the general public and students end up casualties. The center is generally believed that Beijing's Tiananmen Square incident. Besides Shanghai and many other cities are also the expression of different political views during the demonstration. General political commentators say that this incident led to the People's Republic of China since 1978 after the pace of political reform to stop or even reverse it. Today the many controversial incidents which have not been resolved.

Re:Helpful unit conversion

[hellfire]

You realize fortune cookies are technically an american invention right?

Re:Censorship is a bad thing

[davidsyes]

Jesus H. Christ, man! Korea and Taiwan. In BOTH cases the USA/CIA IMPLICITLY gave the local forces permission to (or looked the other way when approach for input) use their MILITARY units against students.

It was a bloody, SAD even in the history of each, but relatively speaking Tienanmen, by many accounts, was NOT as bad as in South Korea and in Taiwan. These happenend. The western news likes to IGNORE IT. (Where are YOU from? There are any NUMBER of esteemed, unreproachable authors (not myself) and historians who can rip you on that topic.)

Nevertheless I deeply respect Admiral Zheng He's fleet for NOT ravaging, mowing, down, conquering, or otherwise imposing any "China Will" upon the rest of the world. I believe what goes around comes around, and SOMEDAY China will rightfully challenge (not open the first shot, but merely challenge by presence) the USA or the flag-waving USN. It will just be equilibrium in the spheres of influence. NO ONE COUNTRY deserves, nor has some implicit privilege or right to run everything.

(That bit was a bit off topic, but if you and your assigning ME homework instead of just elucidating for the audience what I alluded would have helped. I dislike the misplaced, selective media amnesia... Do YOU?)

Your assignment is to do the rest. Find out WHY the US is footdragging in Japan, Korea, and Taiwan. If you lack imagination: The US wants to keep China from gaining more traction. It keeps Korea from reunifying. It keeps Taiwan from being overrun, supposedly, by PRC. PRC isn't going to INVADE anyway-- the KMT and local officials already ALLOW/ED enough businesses to de facto turn over the tech to the mainland. Chinese nationals have direct access to the plants used/owned/built by/for Intel, AMD, IBM, Cisco, and the rest. So much smoke and mirrors are at play, most of this is about which country has the biggest balls to stare down the other and which can take the most control from its citizens and STILL look good at the end of the day.