Trial For The Male Pill Shows No Side-effects 261
Blahbooboo3 writes "Men concerned about contraception may soon be able to use the male equivalent of the Pill, without the potential side-effects of a drug based on altering the balance of sex hormones. The drug, called Adjudin, works by disrupting the interaction that takes place in the testicles between immature sperm cells and the nurse cells responsible for nurturing sperm to maturity. The germ cells need to adhere to the nurse cells for sperm to properly develop, and the drug prevents this bond from forming. It looks like it will be a gel patch type of applicator."
Totally pointless (Score:5, Funny)
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My surprise is about to turn 3! (Score:2)
-Rick
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That being said, I'd much rather have a pill to take that a gel patch. Just my
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I think the only geeks who really have much trouble getting laid are either those who are so absorbed in particular technologies they don't look or alternately those who don't bathe regularly. Geeks tend to make pretty good money, geeks tend to drive pretty nice cars, geeks tend to work smarter not harder and thus clean as they go (except the desk where they work which frequently resembles a trash heap.) Geeks are a hell of good catch for most women (this bein
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You know..it was funny, when I read the headline the FIRST thing I thought of was....Wow, now if only they could come up with a pill to cure AIDS....talk about the sexual revolution coming around again!!!
I mean...if you can't get laid they day they cure aids....something is wrong.
I also would see that the marriage rate go down, and divorce go up.....sin
Vascetomy is better (Score:2)
unless some of these men would want to make kids someday... i have no clue why anyone would want to do that... *shrugs*
Re:Vascetomy is better (Score:5, Funny)
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=Smidge=
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Definitely the best choice you can make if you've had a few already and know you don't want more. Doesn't hurt that bad either.
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WAY better than human children for keeping the lawn mowed. As an added bonus:
No diaper changing
No soccer practice
No bed time
No car or driving lessons
No college tuition
You can sell them or give them away at any time
They can give you milk
They're cute
They don't smell NEARLY as bad
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I never said they don't stink at all... Just not nearly as bad! (o:
Kids (Score:2)
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Not only that... (Score:2)
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starts boasting about their sexual exploits
As the other dude points out, it takes a seriously deprived person to imagine that an average of 1.5 or so sex partners per year for an unmarried guy is "boasting". Some years add a couple because of a couple short-term things, other years go by with me being happyly together with the same person. A relationship lasts six weeks, or six months, or six years, and you won'k know until you try. What part of that is "boasting"?
(In case you missed it: the G...GP was
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I need something to turn it into a complete mess, giving me worries, sleepless nights, and suffocating expenditures.
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Aaaaaaaand I'm outta here.
Something I've always wondered... (Score:2)
i.e., does the trouser snake still throw up, or does it turn into dry heaves
(serious question)
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does a vasectomy ... eh ... unload the gun, or do you just start shooting blanks.
Last time I checked (early nineties, but I don't see why that should've changed since then) there was the idea that you're still ...uh... "primed for seven shot". After that you can carry a teaspoon of goo to the clinic to have them verify your infertility.
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If this works, men can choose not to have kids, and girls could do that already.
It's good, because kids should be opt-in, not opt-out.
If your grl doesn't want to have kids, and is on BC behind your back, you probably don't want to have kids with that kind of person, anyway.
Aside from that, condoms are great for the other issue, everybody can feel protected with them.
The only small problem is breakage, but eh, nothing is perfect!
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He has sex with someone else? Or maybe uses a condom?
No, I think the man is still required to be an active participant, barring some extraordinarily unlikely scenarios.
Then the guy either accepts not having kids, or finds someone else to do it with. The "male pill" doesn't change this.
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Pardon the thread-hijacking (and please, in this disussion, do not ask me to call it "threadjacking"), but since you mentioned "patently"...
I hate to say it, but I've read that one of the reasons why a few promising male contraceptive discoveries (based on existing technology and drugs) haven't been developed is because the patents relating to them are already expired. Is this one case where a patent system that awards patents mo
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All of t
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And I agree, there is a lot of trust there for women, but if they don't trust the guy:
a) Maybe sex isn't such a great idea?
b) There are other forms of birth control than the pill. Not all of them inhibit spontaneity, either. I think all of my f
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Doesn't have to break... (Score:2)
Thank you... (Score:2)
Sad, isn't it, that people just think that using a condom will actually "protect" them; it'll do it most of the time- MOST OF THE TIME.
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Like I say, I wish to heck I could point at the source. It
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Regardless, the point is it's not perfect and it's not necessarily forever, so it still pays to be careful.
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He waited four weeks instead of six and had another kid for his trouble.
For mice only (Score:5, Informative)
No side-effects? (Score:2)
Totally safe! No apparent bad things can happen!
Except blood clots and cancer, 20 years later..
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Call me hypocritical but... (Score:3, Funny)
They say no side effects, but look at "safe" female contraception which may lead to increased chance of certain cancers (although decreased chance of others).
Not that I'm going to stop my gf taking the pill though...
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The male pill probably doesn't offer the same kind of additional benefits, so I can see some couples deciding that if it's going to be one or the other it should be her.
But then, I'm paranoid, and I can see having both of u
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Dude, if he's paranoid enough to consider using condoms and male birth control when it comes out even if she's on the pill, then NFP alone isn't going to cover it.
I've used NFP before, and it's a great way to (as a woman) get in touch with your body. But I would never use it as my only birth control in a situation where I absolutly did not want to get pregnant. There's a reason it's used only by people who believe children
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Required? (Score:2)
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Male pill (Score:4, Funny)
Long-term (Score:2)
Early Adopters (Score:3, Funny)
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Given the small volume and short lifespan of the sperm along with the dilution factor, it's doubtful that the male pill would affect any offspring created the natural way. It's actually more likely that the female pill would have harmful side-effects since the length of incubation time would augment any small effects lingering around after the contraception had stopped.
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Well, by that time, I assure you you won't need it.
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Most people who would be using this would be 20 to 40 years old.. if there are long term side effects that turn out to be infertility... wont it happen so late in your life that it wouldn't really matter anyway.. ?
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I overheard a girl saying the pill didn't work... (Score:2, Funny)
Paternity Insurance (Score:5, Insightful)
And enough with the whining about side effects. Anabolic steroids can make your hair fall out, your epiphysia (growth plates) fuse prematurely, cover you in zits and make your nads shrivel to the size of raisins.....but some of you will take em anyway.
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I make her do far less paperwork.
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Having unprotected sex with strangers has enough side effects, male pill or not.
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1. To keep a man in a relationship with them
2. To have something that will love them and that they can dote on
3. To feel more like a grownup
4. To get "free welfare" so they don't have to work (yes, I actually knew someone who got pregnant for this re
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Bearing children is instinctive in women. Like all instincts, it can drive people to do unscrupulous things. Young men, protect yourselves.
Just in case anyone takes this seriously.. (Score:2)
If you know that both you and your lady have recently tested clean, then you can start worrying about birth control or Male
Physes, not epiphysis (Score:2)
Like so.
Joint Epiphysis/Physis/Metaphysis/Diaphysis/Metaphysis/
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Carry on.
Virg
Worst. Story Suggestion. Ever. (Score:2)
More protection (Score:3, Insightful)
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You mean, we shouldn't want to have sex with a woman who trusts us? My wife was on contraceptives for four years while we were in grad school, until she developed complications from the side effects. I sure wish the male pill had been around back then, it was a very "awkward" two years until we didn't need the contr
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Right....
It's against evolutionary drive... (Score:2)
Of course... we are human, which means that evolutionary drive is not the only thing that
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Men generally want to have sex with as many women as possible, but I don't know too many who want to have children with all of those women. The threat of child support payments do a pretty good job of mitigating that evolutionary drive for most guys.
The Battle of the Sexes (Score:4, Insightful)
That's not the point of there being a male pill. The point is that men no longer have to trust women to be on the pill. If a guy is on the pill, he doesn't have to worry that the woman will say she is on the pill and then go off it, trapping him into supporting a child that he never wanted to gave. Imagine switching the gender roles there: say there was only male contraceptives, and the man says he's on the pill, but he wants a kid, so he stops taking his bill, and yay, now he's got a baby and a mom to take care of it, too! But what if the woman didn't want kids yet? "Well then... she should have been having sex, should she? It's her own fault for chasing cock," someone in this bizarro world might say.
But most of us (besides the abstinence-only types) would think that was a ridiculous response. She engaged in an activity trusting her partner's word that certain consequences would not occur because of measures he had taken. When he fails to take those measures, it's not her fault for trusting him and engaging in the activity, it's his fault for failing to keep his promises. Switch the pronouns here so it's a woman reneging on her word instead and the situation is not different, but plenty of people will harp on a man and say "well you should have kept it in your pants".
Even setting aside these issues of trust, the man being on the pill *and* the woman being on the pill is extra backup in case one of them should simply forget.
The point of this isn't that the burden of birth control can now be shifted to the men and women don't have to take the pill. The point is that now men have a way of making sure that they don't get someone pregnant that they don't want pregnant. If a woman also wants to make sure that she doesn't get pregnant when she doesn't want to, she can take her pill too. In a couple where both people don't want kids and so both are on the pill, extra protection in case one fails or is simply forgotten. In a couple where the woman may want a kid and try to trick the man into giving her one (and subsequently supporting it), or perhaps where the woman is just forgetful (as everyone can be sometimes), the man now has a means of protecting himself, instead of just relying on the woman.
Wow, talk about a new way to be an asshole (Score:2)
The Real Advantage (Score:3, Insightful)
There is one aspect nobody is seeing with this - and it's the real advantage as far as I'm concerned.
Women have terribly complex hormonal systems. The female pill works by fiddling with that normally balanced system. Fiddling with the hormonal balance of a woman is generally not a good thing. In addition to the physical side effects and possible health risks involved, there are a whole raft of psychological repercussions.
On the other hand, male hormonal cycles are much less complex - and it doesn't even sound like this particular treatment is hormone based at all. For the sake of my relationship with my wife, I will happily be the one to submit to side effects rather than her taking the pill and possibly losing all desire for sex anyway.
As someone else posted, this kind of thing is intended for long term relationships that require contraception - not necessarily for casual accident prevention. For that, I recommend my Mandatory Vasectomy At Birth program (you're free to reverse the procedure with your own money at any time).
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That says to me that your friends have issues throwing their ass around town without thinking about the consequences.
I'm no prude, but if they're not going to use their head, they shouldn't be fucking.
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Fortunately, very few women become pregnant when they just use their head.
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Errrr....
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Hmm. I would think, in that regard, its pretty much negligible: the female pill seriously empowers women, reproductively; this new development adds nothing for women that the condom and the ability to refuse to couple with anyone not using one didn't already provide.
I don't think that an
So it works! (Score:2)
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The article doesn't explain exactly where you have to stick the gel patch ;).
Yeah, that's the dirty little secret: The patch is three feet long by two feet wide and 11 inches thick. It has to be applied topically directly on the penis. Studies show that it prevents fertility with almost complete efficiency...
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She would have been taking a hell of a chance by believing him, and that is the biggest problem with it.
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Men take just as much chance by believing women who say they're on the pill. Men don't get pregnant, but they do have to pay child support, and it's good for them to have options to prevent having kids if they don't want to. It also helps couples when the woman can't take hormonal birth control, for whatever reason, and couples who want a backup but aren't fond of condoms.
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"Reverend, I... I think I'm coveting my own wife!"
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"Because she said she was on the pill, so I didn't need to be."
I mean, its the same response used now to "Why didn't you use a condom?"
Its hardly like we live in a situation now where people of either sex don't have adequate tools in most normal circumstances to fairly reliably prevent pregnancy. OTOH, if this becomes popular, I'd expect to see an upswing in S
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I agree, though, we'll probably see more STD infections after this hits the market as guys switch to "the male pill" i
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The most likely place -- loose skin under the armpits -- happens to be an uncomfortable place for me, however. I suppose there are a dozen other locations it could be slipped, as well.
That's the hormonally-based one, the new approach tested in rats binds a destructive enzyme to a hormone that natura