Upgrading to Ubuntu Edgy Eft a "Nightmare" 529
Reports are flooding in to Ubuntu's Installation & Upgrades forum from people having myriad problems with their upgrades. One user described it as a 'nightmare.' Users are producing detailed descriptions of problems but getting little help. This thread has mixed reports and is possibly the most interesting read. Many people report that straightforward upgrades of relatively mundane systems go well, but anything the least bit interesting seems not to have been accounted for, like software RAID, custom kernels, and Opera. Even the official upgrade method doesn't work for everyone, including crashes of the upgrade tool in the middle of installing, leaving systems unbootable, no longer recognizing devices (like the console keyboard!), reduced performance, X server crashes, wireless networking problems, the user password no longer working, numerous broken applications, and many even stranger things. Some of this is fairly subjective, with Kubuntu being a bit more problematic than Ubuntu, with reports that Xubuntu seems to have the worst problems, and remote upgrades are something you don't even want to try. Failed upgrades invariably require a complete reinstall. The conclusion from the street, about upgrading to Edgy, is a warning: If you're going to try to take the plunge, be sure to make a backup image of your boot partition before starting the upgrade. Your chances of having the upgrade be a total failure are high. If you're really dead-set on upgrading, you'll save yourself a lot of time and headache by backing up all of your personal files manually and doing a fresh install (don't forget to save your bookmarks!).
No probs for me. (Score:4, Informative)
Give it a try, I say. You won't be dissappointed.
Can't say I was too impressed with the upgrade (Score:4, Informative)
On the other hand I was *really* pleased when it was installed. The fresh install was trivially easy and everything works [revis.co.uk] - including wireless with WPA and 3D acceleration. It's about the first time my laptop has been 100% usable as a laptop since I dumped OS X.
So: Minus one point for not upgrading properly. Plus several hundred points for maturity of hardware support. I'm sure that for 7.04 upgrades will be running perfectly
Worked for me (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Network problem. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:use gentoo and never do another dist upgrade ag (Score:3, Informative)
Ubuntu upgrade went perfectly (Score:2, Informative)
i then did the update from System - Admin - update manager and hey presto (3hrs later of downloads) no buttons to press and only had to choose to keep my config files intact. And it is all working. boots faster than ever. XGL and compiz effects all in tact AND
Best upgrade ever imho and im not an advanced ubuntu user but a damned happy one.
Be realistic... (Score:2, Informative)
Everythink worked fine here! (Score:2, Informative)
A good upgrade (Score:2, Informative)
Re:I just did a dapper-edgy upgrade... (Score:3, Informative)
I can affirm this. Last night I spent a few hours wondering what went wrong with the Dapper to Edgy upgrade. They both had to do with some peculiarity of my system:
GUI upgrade failed halfway because xorg-common complained that /usr/X11R6/bin is not empty. Edgy now installs all X programs under /usr/bin, so /usr/X11R6/bin needs to become symbolic linked to /usr/bin. It turned out that I installed a snapshot of DRI drivers for my Mach 64 video card, which left a file /usr/X11R6/bin/xdriinfo, and dpkg tried to preserve that for me.
Fix: run
until all packages are upgraded properly.As a result of the previous boo-boo, X drivers weren't automatically upgraded. The packages were renamed from xserver-xorg-driver-* to xserver-xorg-video-*, and for some reason apt-get didn't pick up these new names. So I wasn't able to start X after the next reboot.
Fix: run apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
A final problem had to do with usplash not being able to find a theme, so I watched in horror as Ubuntu booted in text mode. I switched from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, but I upgraded the system back to Ubuntu. As a result, the usplash theme "update-alternatives" symbolic link pointed to a non-existent Kubuntu theme after the upgrade.
Fix: run
and after that, run to reflect the change in initrd for booting.All of these commands to run must be performed as root, and I recommend switching to a single user mode before you do that.
Re:use gentoo and never do another dist upgrade ag (Score:3, Informative)
Re:The change no-one mentioned: bash-dash (Score:2, Informative)
dist-upgrade problems (Score:4, Informative)
of Software RAID (Score:3, Informative)
screen with no diags. (filed as bug 68888).
This seems to be related to the change to UUID's (which IMHO is horrid even more so than RHELs use of LABELs - I can
remember that my root device was hda1 or has a label of / but anyone who can remember a UUID
of 9d3f7a30-72ef-4d24-947c-3efc6bd9e6b6 should get a job as a memory man or IPV6 coordinator).
However, with that sorted I haven't hit anything else; there were the normal couple of dependency problems
during the dist-upgrade relating to other stuff I'd installed.
What are you doing that needs all the editing? (Score:3, Informative)
It helps, of course, that I very seldom upgrade my hardware. If you're one of those people who buys a new Wacom tablet, scanner, printer, joystick, or whatever else every few weeks, then it would be unrealistic to think that hotplug or coldplug is going to keep you from doing the finessing that Gentoo often requires to get that stuff running. If not, and problems seem to crop up on a daily basis, then you could very well be doing something wrong
A few small but deal-breaking issues for me (Score:3, Informative)
The LiveCD looks just fine. Nearly identical to the Drake LiveCD.
The installer worked beautifully, as always. And you can now resize your NTFS partitions quite easily with the partitioner.
Rebooted into the full install and started poking around.
Got all my regular software in. Automatix took care of the rest of the necessities.
On the whole, Eft seemed a bit more responsive than Dapper has on other machines of similar power.
However, I noticed that the Disk manager was missing from the admin menu. So I couldn't just dig into my NTFS partition. Bummer. Oh well,
As I need to occasionally leech files from my Windows install, this kinda pissing in my cornflakes. And everything, and I mean EVERYTHING else works beautifully!
Tried to reinstall. Identical problem happened.
So, ripped it out again and went back to Dapper.
Okay, to be absoloutely FAIR about this, we WERE told that Edgy was just that. So it's not surprising that there are issues happening here. But people have been so ingrained with the "Gotta have the latest and greatest" idiocy that problems like this are inevitable.
Glad I'm Not The Only One! (Score:3, Informative)
The first thing I did was to download the Alternate CD image, since I figured it would be better to not have to download it later in the day when I got home and my parents would need the bandwidth for their business stuff (Edgy was released on my 18th birthday).
Now, I had to use the apt-get method of updating, which produced more problems than I've ever had with apt. I had it fail out on me three times. First time was overnight, as it decided it wanted to download most of its stuff over the internet instead of using my CD. It failed to download one little 117kb package and thus completely stopped the upgrade. I continued it when I woke up. The anjunta package just killed the upgrade for some reason, and nothing would make it go, so I ended up getting into Adept and removing it. I then installed the packages that had downloaded and continued the update. It failed out again along the way, and I forget how I straightened that out or what was wrong.
So it was starting to get finicky due to the mismatched parts and whatnot, so once the update finished, at long last, I restarted the thing. To which I found a problem.
X server would not start.
It was the craziest thing! I had a problem similar to this with Dapper that turned out to have something to do with not liking the graphical splash screen that hid the bootup, so I tried booting without it. It dropped me at a command line, and I did what any person who knows even a little about Linux would do: I ran 'startx'.
Error: Xinit not found.
(Not word for word, but I remember something about X failing)
What the hell? So, I figure, it's cool, it's an update, these things happen, though from the noise I'd heard about (K)Ubuntu, I wasn't expecting it. (I'm a former Fedora user) So I decide to hop onto Lynx to see if I can find any information. I keep getting 404 errors all over the place. Nothing will move. After about 15 minutes of this, I realized that, although my eth1 interface was up, it hadn't been configured properly!
sudo ifdown eth1
sudo ifup eth1
All resolved. I then went to my other computer to try and find a resolution to this problem. I searched some forums and found someone with a similar problem. The thread recommended installing some package that, when I went to apt-get it, I realized what the problem was.
Xorg-server had not installed.
Why did the upgrade even go through if it hadn't installed Xorg!? This made no sense. No sooner did I let Xorg install, then 'startx' worked and I was right into KDE. Which, I might add, had lost most of my preferences, such as appearance of windows and mouse behavior (I prefer double-click to single-click), and it seems to like hanging for a few seconds when I try to go to my auto-hiding menu on the right side of my screen.
Upon restarting it again, my network again failed to be configured for some reason, which is one of the exact problems I switched away from Fedora to get away from. KDE also made all my fonts a ton smaller and screwed with my desktop appearance again, which I have yet to bother trying to troubleshoot, as I think it's a more efficient use of my screen. The fonts also look much different (read--better) now, but for some reason, the numbers on KWifiManager's tray icon are extremely small and the top 1/3 or so is cut off.
I wish I could say I was pleased with Kubuntu Edgy, but all in all, my reaction is more of a "meh." I do like some things, like how XMMS doesn't scroll a whole page at a time when I scroll with my mouse wheel. I also like the newer kernel, which I'd been missing since I left Fedora, since 2.6.17 is the first kernel to have support for my FusionHDTV5-USB. I'm find it to be far easier to use on Kubuntu than it was in Fedora, mainly because Xine will actually install on Kubuntu, and not just complain abo
Re:SWITCH TO OPEN SOLARIS TODAY! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:interesting (Score:2, Informative)
From the beginning EDGY was setup for bleeding edge. Upstart is new technology.
Colo boxes that need up time should run Dapper until the 3rd iteration of the Edgy path, whatever that is named.
Now go out and reinstall DAPPER LTS (Long Term Support) and stop spamming us with this FUD.
Re:interesting (Score:5, Informative)
There is this little file called
Re:A few small but deal-breaking issues for me (Score:3, Informative)