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A First Look At Gaim 2.0 243

Posted by kdawson
from the talk-talk dept.
surgicaltubing writes to spotlight the progress towards vesion 2.0 for Gaim, the open source, multi-protocol IM client. "The Gaim 2.0 release is nearing its home stretch. The Gaim team released beta 4 last week, with a number of new features and UI improvements." Linux.com and Slashdot are both part of OSTG.
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A First Look At Gaim 2.0

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  • no gg (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @03:29AM (#16573432)
    oh noes :/ no gadu-gadu support?
  • Google Talk Support (Score:5, Informative)

    by kraada (300650) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @03:35AM (#16573502)
    The article claims that Gaim 2.0 doesn't have Google Talk support . . . however, in this case TFA is quite wrong.

    Google Talk is done on the Jabber protocol.

    To set up Google Talk, set up a Jabber account, your S/N is your gmail username, and the server is talk.google.com. I have it set up right now myself, and it works fine.

    The gaim people could, of course, make it easier to set up GT, but the support is in fact there.
  • Re:Beta 4 (Score:3, Informative)

    by HoosierPeschke (887362) <hoosierpeschke@comcast.net> on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @03:37AM (#16573528) Homepage
    It uses the GTK engine so you could get a new GTK theme [freshmeat.net]. I've never tried it so I'm not sure how well it works.

    On a side note, did anyone else notice the "slashdot it" link at the bottom? I understand linux.com is a part of the OSTG but that seems kinda cruel...
  • by Jack Malmostoso (899729) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @03:48AM (#16573612)
    I think in TFA it is meant that there is no VOIP Google Talk support, that should be implemented later on in the development. You may want to take a look at gaim-vv for voice/video support, but I am not sure it is still actively developed: AFAIK it was meant to be merged back in Gaim 2.0. Note that one of GAIM main developers (Sean Egan) has been hired by Google earlier this year. About Gaim 2.0, I have been using all betas on Linux and Windows for months now, and I find it absolutely great. Best IM ever.
  • by nonsequitor (893813) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @03:48AM (#16573614)
    The article claimed it didn't have Voice Support for Google Talk. Lack of Voice Support for any protocol (Yahoo, MSN, etc...) is a real drawback to using GAIM for me. The only voice chat that anyone I know uses that's supported on Linux is Skype.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @03:49AM (#16573622)
    > The article claims that Gaim 2.0 doesn't have Google Talk support . . . however, in this case TFA is quite wrong.

    From TFA:

    "Finally, I'm disappointed to see that Gaim still doesn't have voice support for Google Talk. "

    Voice support, not Google Talk.
  • Re:Beta 4 (Score:2, Informative)

    by abscott (957865) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @03:56AM (#16573690)
    There is still the cut and paste issue where your text appears (only to you) as the font style/colour of what you pasted until you close the chat window. This problems been around since the first 2.0 beta the devs know about it, but it still hasnt been fixed. There are also some UI drawing issues now to beta 4. Like the status drop down box for me has 3-4pxls of white on the left of it.
  • Re:Weird crash? (Score:5, Informative)

    by VGPowerlord (621254) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @04:16AM (#16573838)
    Does anyone else have a problem where Gaim 1 and Beta 2 crash while trying to connect to MSN?

    I've not been able to find anyone who can replicate this.

    Nope, they definitely didn't have a news article about this problem on the GAIM site.

    Oh wait, yes they did [sourceforge.net].

  • by pugdk (697845) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @04:43AM (#16574078) Homepage
    I have just tested the new gaim (2.0 beta4) and there is one annoying thing they have yet to fix: If you send messages using MSN fast they will get refused at the server level by micro$oft. MSN messenger stores your messages and only sends like one per second I seem to recall. Gaim does not have this feature, thus if you are a fast writer or write small messages and send them quickly after one another they will NOT go through.

    This bug has been present for ages. I had hoped this would be fixed in 2.0beta4, but no. I hope this is fixed in the final version! Other than that gaim 2.0 seems very cool!

    -pug
  • Direct IMs and such (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @04:48AM (#16574108)
    I've been using Gaim simply because I hate the ads on aim and I like many of its features. However, I have trouble sending files and getting direct IMs. Is this a configuration problem, or is it fixed in 2.0 or what?
  • by BinaryCodedDecimal (646968) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @04:51AM (#16574132)
    I've been using 2.0.0 beta 3.1 for a while now. I like it.

    My only gripe is that it stores account passwords in plain text, on Windows at least, inside the accounts.xml file. (On Windows, this is located in %HOMEPATH%\Application Data\.gaim)

    Surely it's not too much of a hassle to encrypt the passwords? Are passwords encrypted in the later versions of the beta?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @04:58AM (#16574192)
    Are passwords encrypted in the later versions of the beta?
    No they're not, and no they're not likely to be.

    The GAIM team explain the reasons behind this on the website [sourceforge.net] and they seem like good reasons to me.
  • by GreatBunzinni (642500) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @05:06AM (#16574248)
    think in TFA it is meant that there is no VOIP Google Talk support


    Once again, that isn't support for google talk. Google talk is simply a Jabber client written by google. When someone talks about google talk's VoIP functionality then that person is talking about Jingle [xmpp.org], which is a Jabber standard element.

    So please don't get confused about this one. Google talk is simply the client (like Psi, Gaim, Kopete, etc) while the protocol itself is Jabber.

  • by SeaFox (739806) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @05:18AM (#16574356)
    GAIM 2.0 is not actually out yet. This is only a beta, and as someone who has been waiting for over a year for the software to be released, I don't expect it to show up anytime soon. In fact, it's reminding me of Vista's development. Very little information, and feature scale backs. The merging of the Gaim-vv code into 2.0 was canceled, the results of the Google Summer of Code 2005 were released right around the time the Summer of Code 2006 was ending.

    The longest thread on the project's forum page is still a thread asking about the delays [sourceforge.net] even though it was closed at the end of August. And it has it's share of jerks, but it really illustrates what a Debian-like release cycle this has been.
  • Kopete (Score:3, Informative)

    by brunes69 (86786) <slashdot AT keirstead DOT org> on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @07:28AM (#16575290) Homepage
    Kopete supports MSN Webcam audio and video, and Google Talk Jingle upport works as well (experimental only)
  • Re:File Transfers (Score:5, Informative)

    by selfdiscipline (317559) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @07:36AM (#16575342) Homepage
    From TFA:

    "File transfer seems to be improved in this version as well. I've tried file transfer before with Gaim, between Gaim and other folks on the AIM network, and it never has seemed to work. This time around, the file transfer seems to work fine. I logged two accounts into AIM at the same time and sent a few files back and forth, and then tried it with a user on the AIM network using the Windows AIM client. The files went through just fine each time."

    So yes, I guess. This is also the feature I'm most looking forward to. I'm not going to hope for folder transfers, because as I understand, that's part of aim's more proprietary featureset.

    Oh... I once wrote a plugin (for 1.5) that would allow you to send people files from the commandline. I found it handy to send a list of files, like *.mp3 or `grep -i -l "that thing we talked about" *`

    If anyone is interested in this, maybe I'll work on this for the 2.0 release.
  • by Britz (170620) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @08:18AM (#16575674) Homepage
    There is more for Linux. Ever heard of Gizmo?

    http://www.gizmoproject.com/download.php [gizmoproject.com]
  • Re:Auto away (Score:3, Informative)

    by Lothsahn (221388) <Lothsahn@@@SPAM_ ... u_bastardsyahocm> on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @09:09AM (#16576264)
    You may have run into the bug: Never Idle [sourceforge.net]

    I found that this problem was fixed in Beta4. When I installed Gaim 2.0.0, I would never go idle. I had everything configured to set me Idle, but I wouldn't go idle.

    The difference between "Windows Usage" and "Gaim Usage" is that Gaim usage is only the time that you spend in gaim, sending and recieving messages. Windows usage means that if you're typing in Microsoft Word, then Gaim will not set you idle while you're actively using the computer.
  • Re:no gg (Score:2, Informative)

    by grev (974855) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @09:35AM (#16576734)
    Gadu-Gadu is supported in 2.0
  • Re:no gg (Score:2, Informative)

    by kc1man (1016974) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @09:36AM (#16576760)
    GaduGadu is an extremely popular IM system in Poland.
  • Grammar Nazi Time (Score:3, Informative)

    by Guuge (719028) on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @10:32AM (#16577742)
    It's "Gaim" [sourceforge.net]
  • Misattributed Quote (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 25, 2006 @12:09PM (#16579428)
    Sorry, Makali wrote that. You left out the best part, JWZ's response:
    I am fully in support of this proposed audio-cock technology.
    See here [jwz.org].

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