Fedora Core 6 Released 230
Shadowman writes "Fedora Core 6 has been released. Recommended download method is via BitTorrent. For more information, see the release notes or the Fedora homepage.
Slashdot interviewed the Fedora Project Leader back in August."
Re:In Other FC News... (Score:1, Interesting)
http://www.amazon.com/Fedora-Core-Red-Enterprise-
(yes, I realize its pre-order, but still impressive)
Fedora 6 patches to KDE are buggy, unpolished (Score:5, Interesting)
Some of the Fedora 6 changes (like taking away MP3 playing capability from KDE music players) are justified on a legal basis, but other changes (like using a 4-year old window decoration and widget styles) are at best the result of ineptitude or at worst a deliberate attempt to make KDE look bad and outdated.
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Re:Who cares? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Bah - that's what Livna is for :) (Score:2, Interesting)
Obviously the general case of that feature is that you can specify your own URL for external repositories -- be they livna, dag, or your own custom repo.
Re:Not to troll, but... (Score:0, Interesting)
Fedora is dead as a distro. The absurd patent restrictions that no other distro obeys, and to sum it up Ubuntu, have killed it off. The people who work on it are literally wasting their time, making a distro that competes with Ubuntu, which is the best desktop distro out there.
No one has managed to explain to me why Fedora is even being worked on at all. If all the developers who are working on disparate desktop distros would join together and work on a maximum of three distinctive desktop distros (Gentoo, which is unique, Ubuntu, the people's Linux, and one other) the users would benefit by orders of magnitude. Instead, they bicker like children (see the latest debian debacle) and chip away at their little ghetto distros instead of working for 'the big prize'.
And thats a pity.
Re:Mandatory Zod quote (Score:3, Interesting)
It's interesting that they chose to call this release "Zod." The traditional Red Hat maintainer of XFree86/Xorg, Mike Harris, for a long time went by the alternate nickname of "zod" on IRC support channels and the like. He left Red Hat a little while ago, and now this release bears this name. I have no idea if there was any intentional connection.
ObTrivia: In case you missed the other fifty explanations, General Zod is the leader of the Krypton villains in Superman II.
Re:Not to troll, but... (Score:3, Interesting)
That only means that you and almost every other person you know is dumb enough not to read documentation about the tools they try to use.
"When is the Fedora project going to start fixing its bugs instead of just pushing out bleeding edge packages?"
Plain simple: never.
It is not as if it were a deeply hidden fact; it's even on the fundational papers from RedHat/Fedora. It is known from day O that Fedora's main goal is being Red Hat's testing field for bleeding edge technologies both from the technical and the "social" points of view. From the technical point of view that means its software will be *always* less than polished; from the social one, it only makes sense to open the "build process" as it currently is to gain knowledge about what is well recieved and what, even if hyped, it is not, in order to move RHEL accordingly (once the software is properly polished out of Fedora's suffering).
In sort: Fedora is, and it always has been kindof a "beta" aimed at technoenthusiasts, aficionados and redhat-involved hackers.
"Hey, I'm just saying that it blows my mind how bad Fedora has been for everyone"
It is *NOT* so bad for everything: it is really good for Red Hat Inc. and Red Hat hackers (meaning people that hack/develop on the Red Hat platform not only people that work within Red Hat). But yes, it is quite bad for unknowledgeable people that uses Fedora under false assumptions.
Just exactly the same happens whenever somebody tries to use a hammer as a teaspoon, and you can imagine what the usual name for someone that uses hammers as teaspons is.
Re:Who cares? (Score:2, Interesting)
I guess I did have to grab the mplayer codec package to satisfy a few of their media dependencies too...
The cutover was eased by the fact that I've had them doing:
a) running with limited user rights in XP [this was the only way I was going to continue providing support]
b) using firefox only
c) using thunderbird for mail
d) running gaim for im
I set their OO.o defaults to use the ms office formats so that they didn't have to futz with file extension changes when sharing docs and presto, chango, a perfect setup for their needs.
The funniest thing I've heard so far was the following from my sister-in-law:
SiL -> Hey Ben, what do I use to scan the music I just downloaded for viruses.
Me -> Don't worry about viruses any more.
SiL -> Interesting!
(The last line is a direct quote.)
-Ben
who maintains rpm? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Yes, but... (Score:3, Interesting)
Apps are _sometimes_ backported, but only when they appear at current_stable+1 repositories. That doesn't happen very often.
Edgy (6.10, to be released in a few days) has FF 2.0, but only because they started with beta. Breezy (released a year ago, iirc few weeks before FF 1.5) didn't have FF 1.5 - it had 1.5.0.7. It wasn't even backported from Dapper repos (there were too many dependencies... for example gnome help was (maybe still is) rendered via FF). So unless you wanted to try some alternative way of installing FF 1.5, you had to wait till June 2006 (over 10 months).
On the other sie, I remember myself feeling really bad about this "I don't get the newest and greatest stuff" deal when I migrated to Linux 18 months ago. But now, 99% of the time I couldn't care less. Sure, sometimes I really want some new version (recent case: x-moto, a cool game, got a new version that introduced neat new features... luckily it's been backported to Dapper), but the fact that I have almost all of my software being upgraded almost automatically is just so much more important. I'd say the time spent on maintaining my system decreased at least 10x since I dumped Windows.