PS3 Details From Sony Game Day

Gamespot has up the record of a liveblog from yesterday's Sony Game day event. They dish a medium-sized helping of dirt, with information like controller price ($50), first-party title price ($60), what is actually in the box, launch window titles, and a bit on what the online experience will offer. From the article: "2:04 p.m.: Hirai says the final boxed product is rolling off the assembly lines as we speak. Then he shows the retail packaging. He says they will have 22 launch-window titles, including games like FEAR, Call of Duty 3, Full Auto 2, Genji: Days of the Blade, NBA Live 07, NBA 2K7, NHL 2K7, Rainbow Six Vegas, Tony Hawk's Project 8, Untold Legends, and Riiidge Racer 7. (Yes, he said 'Riiidge.')" Meanwhile, 1up has some details on the PS3's pre-order status in Japan ... if you're curious. As well you might be, because importing a PS3 is illegal, doncha know.

Excuse me while my eyes bug out

[AKAImBatman]

Riiidge Racer 7. (Yes, he said 'Riiidge.')

It's good to know they're not taking themselves too seriously. That's something, at least. :)

Comment removed

[account_deleted]

Comment removed based on user account deletion

Re:How is it possible?

[MeanderingMind]

Because contrary to popular belief, Zonk isn't biased against the PS3?

This isn't the first and it won't be the last time Zonk posts news about the PS3 without bashing it. It's been stated before and I'll stated again that Zonk can only post what news on the PS3 there is, not what news there isn't. If 90% of that news is bad, which it was for a very long time, he's just the messenger. Shooting him doesn't change what other people report.

Attacking Zonk is as popular around here as predicting the "inevitable" death of Sony. Both are silly pursuits.

Importing is illegal?

[Maul]

So let me get this straight.

1. Go to Japan.
2. Buy a bunch of PS3s legally.
3. Offer to sell these PS3s I purchased legally on my web page to international customers.
4. Resell the PS3s to people outside of Japan.

I fail to see how this is illegal, per say. I'm a bit confused.

Re:Importing is illegal?

[Thansal]

You and me both.

Aparently they won a suit against Lik-Sang, however mabey there is something going on there, like any one that orders from Sony wholesale signs an agreement to not sell out of their region.....

Either way, it is crazy.

Re:What "launch window titles" really means

[ShadowsHawk]

"But to play a PS3 is to lust after a PS3." Three points. 1. My PC has been doing 'HD' for years. 2. My desire simply does not justify the cost. 3. Seven of the nine games listed are ports or sequels. I certainly can afford the PS3, but I simply don't believe that I would get $600 of fun out of the machine.

Re:Slightly OT: Yellow Dog Linux for PS3?

[gstoddart]

I submitted this, but Zonk didn't post it. I would think it would be a big deal; perhaps I'm missing some detail.

He's the Ars Technica article: Yellow Dog Linux for PS3 Announced

Don't know when you posted it to Zonk, but this was posted on Monday [slashdot.org].

For once, maybe the editors prevented a duplicate.

Cheers

Re:How is it possible?

[IpalindromeI]

How is it a dig? Sony did sue Lik-Sang [lik-sang.com] over importing, even though it was perfectly legal.

How is it irrelevant? This article concerns the PS3 launch, which will be happening a few months later in Europe than elsewhere, and people might have been considering importing it. Now they might not be able to because of Sony's actions. Seems relevant to those who might've wanted to import, no?

Re:What "launch window titles" really means

[revlayle]

This may be redundant... but the iPod did not require third party software to use. You could put MP3s that you had on it it and go and use it anywhere. PS3 will require software/games to sell it (i know it can browse the web and play music and videos, not the main selling point i think - even then, this may apply to Blu-Ray movies to a degree, also), and if it takes too long to adopt, the software developers will pull out because they aren't making profits from developing for the system.

Re:What "launch window titles" really means

[Anonymous Coward]

You have got to be kidding me. I've seen the PS3 in action, and yes the graphics are a LITTLE BIT better than what we have right now. I'm a huge graphics snob, so of course I notice how good the graphics are, but if you put it side-by-side with some of the PS2's better graphically-souped up games MOST PEOPLE wont notice. There's nothing mind-blowingly amazing about it except that it's a cheap bluray player. Graphics have peaked, plain and simple. What people are looking for now are new types of games and new ways to play them. PS3 is bass-ackwards in this department and is going to pay the price for it's lack of innovation.

MOST PEOPLE are not going to notice the difference in graphics between the three systems connected to top-of-the-line TV's. Graphics arent going to sell jack this generation.

Re:Forget the Games.. It runs Linux!!!

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, just like Linux on the PS2 was such a good way to get to use the emotion engine and all of the PS2's phat hardware.

Christ, people. When will you learn?

Not only that, but what exactly do you want to use Cell for? In all of these "boy, I sure do want to play with the Cell, by golly!" posts, I never hear an actual reason. Do you have a pet project that needs a bunch of parallel DSPs? Are you actually an interested programmer, an astroturfer, or just a moron?

Re:What "launch window titles" really means

[HappySqurriel]

I don't think the intention of the previous post was that you could produce a PC that outperforms the PS3 for the same cost as the PS3, but more that there is an annoying habit of fanboys who think that the PS3 is magic and can outperform anything. Now, being that the PS3 doesn't come with an HDTV, and CRT monitors that support 1920x1280 are readily availabe and inexpensive I don't see your point of including a high end, large LCD monitor in the PC price; $250 could easily buy a 17 inch monitor that supports these resolutions.

Please source this. I say that the PS3's architecture is completely different from a PC in no comparable format except real-world tests that aren't even available yet. At the very minimum, people who have seen the PS3 in person running at 1080p have said it's "amazing and fluid". I haven't seen it yet.

IIRC the PS3's GPU has a similar architecture to most readily available graphics cards produced by Nvidia; as a guess, I would say that it was probably a PC GPU that was under development 18-24 months ago that had most of the Legacy support removed from it to keep development costs down. The fact is that the PS3's GPU at best would be similar to the best single GPU graphics card that Nvidia offers, because if Nvidia could produce a better GPU today they would put it on a circuit board and sell it for $500 and advertize how much better their card was then what ATI was producing; if they could produce a sigle GPU which outperformed their SLi setup they would put it on a card and sell it for $700 and advertize that a single card outperformed ATI's crossfire solutions.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you think you'll recieve dramatically better performance from the PS3 than you would from a PC with a decent CPU and good Graphics card I would expect to be disapointed. Consoles (typically) produce great performance for the price, but they're still bound to the same laws of physics that a PC is (and usually consoles have very strict cost/heat/space requirements that a PC doesn't have).