Web Censorship on the University Campus? 503
Censored Prof asks: "I teach at a private university in San Antonio, TX. Besides some horrendous bandwidth issues, we have lately been subjected to Lightspeed and/or Websense blocking. This means that suddenly, university students are unable to see content that the rest of the (free) world sees; and more importantly are often blocked from very legitimate information crucial to their area of study. Papers like Village Voice are blocked. Anatomy sites are blocked. Electronic Art sites are blocked. Anything with ".mp3" is blocked. Our CIO has assured us that this is not uncommon and that there are good reasons to do this on a university campus. It strikes me as odd that students must leave campus to learn, and smacks of censorship in horrible ways. So my question: Is this unique to our university? Who else at what other universities are subject to similar web-content blocking? Are we alone, or part of a disturbing trend?"
Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. (Score:5, Interesting)
Most of those filters are designed for corporate or under-18 environments.
Universities have wildly different needs.
I know what school! (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:The good old days (Score:5, Interesting)
She maintained that schools teaching kids to "do research on the Internet" does them little good, and it's a farce that it's even called "research". She had an obvious bias towards printed books as superior media.
I maintain that the content is what's important
With digital content, you can always duplicate onto printed media at will. With your original being a book, you have to do labor-intensive photocopying or scanning and printing to produce a duplicate. I'm not against the idea of paper or books, but especially for research purposes - digital is a vastly more flexible format.
censorship makes you liable (Score:5, Interesting)
It was our opinion that by choosing to actually censor internet access, a college could become responsible for the actions of its students on the net, because it shows that they are monitoring the students' behavior and choosing to intervene. Failure to "correctly" intervene could make a school liable. Establishing a policy that the school is an ISP and provides uncensored access to students who are responsible for their own actions could prevent liability for the school.
Not odd (Score:5, Interesting)
Not at all, that's the way it's been for thousands of years.
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." -- Mark Twain
Re:Sounds Like... (Score:3, Interesting)
That's why I went to UTA in Texas, where there was no football team at all. Of course, every year, some "involved" freshman would write editorials in the school paper about why we needed one, launch a campaign for "student government" (why should those people have control over me?), etc., trying to get a football program restarted, but they never found enough support to win, and I suppose eventually they always went on to a sports/party university like they wanted so the rest of us could stay and do what we came to do.
Re:The good old days (Score:1, Interesting)
The world has moved forward. Information is coming to us in a new way. We need to embrace it or risk becoming inferior to those that do. When we are "Jacked In" ^TM to a network that uses our mind instead of a monitor / keyboard we will have the same arguement. The only diferance is that the InterWeb has been around for a very long time, and is now considered like a utility bill. It's something you don't want to live without, but could.
Imagine living without electricity. Back in my day if you wanted water, you had to grab a pail, and fetch it your self from the river 2 miles across the valley making it up hill BOTH ways!
While there may be a few small comunities in developed nations who still do this, and while no doubt we could live like that... Who would want to?
Seriously... Don't take "The Net" for granted, it's no casual thing.
Only blocking P2P and bandwidth limits (Score:2, Interesting)
When it comes to blocking "questionable" content as seems to be the case with you, I have not heard of this practice, at least among most east coast colleges. I for one think it is a bad road for a higher education institution to walk down. Colleges and Universities are about education in all its forms. They are also for students that are usually legal adults and are mature enough to use their own discretion for what web sites they visit. Blocking P2P sites cause you don't want to get sued, or limiting bandwidth for the sake of keeping the network usable are perfectly legitimate practices in my book (as annoying as they may be). But colleges and universities should by no means censor web content and do not let them tell you that it is a common practice among the colleges and universities.
Re:Sounds Like... (Score:5, Interesting)
le porn (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm an admin at a private university (Score:3, Interesting)
In almost every case I've been involved in, it broke down to exactly how crucial the information was. In my realm, if I think there's any educational value there whatsoever, I'll unblock it. I'm more concerned about proper student education then sensless content blocking. You place may be different.
Village Voice and anatomy sites may be being blocked because of overzealous regex filters. I can't imagine why electronic art (how ambigious is that?!) sites are blocked unless you're refering to Electronic Arts [ea.com], in which case I might not see your case. As far as MP3s, I, too, block any MP3 downloads at my campuses, unless requested on an individual basis for a good reason. I have yet to find a good reason why unfettered MP3 downloading aides education. Do you have one?
Now it's obvious you're biased, trolling, or just whining. Not to mention you just labeled yourself and your fellow faculty incapable of teaching without unfiltered internet access.
I don't know. Do you enjoy beating your wife?
Look, at my campuses I use a web proxy (Squid) for several reasons, and one of them is to block certain types of content. Most of the campuses have two multilinked T1s, which means right around 3Mb/s. I don't have enough bandwidth to support the world. First, the obvious stuff, like porn, goes into the blocklists. Then I do a little advert filtering. Anonymous web proxies are a no-no, as well as sites dedicated to any sort of large, streaming content. YouTube, Google Video, di.fm, and video portions of ESPN, CNN, and other are blocked, to name a few.
Oh, and Myspace, Friendster, and most of the other social sites are blocked. I challenge you to show me what educational value they have and then show me them being used that way .
And, yes, through a combo of mime-types and regex I block mp3, avi, wmv, mov, and just about every other audio and video type out there. You know what happens when I don't? People spend their time on apple.com waitching movie trailers or something equally unproductive. We got tired of wondering why our VPN or online applications were slow, only to discover people abusing the network. It is not my students right to download the latest game trailer for Whatever's Coming Out Next Month XII (omg!).
I'm betting you haven't:
Academic freedom trumps all at this college (Score:2, Interesting)
There are rules about what you can surf for in the labs and library. Those are enforced by the lab monitors and library staff, and if necessary, via non-academic misconduct proceedings. In the case where a faculty member or student knows they will be viewing potentially offensive material, for example, research on pornography or hate speech, etc, there are protocols in place for how they can get what they need without subjecting others to having to see it on their screens. Additionally, when research type things might violate the terms of the Acceptable Computer Use Policy, there are systems in place for users to get specific pre-approval to violate the ACUP for research purposes.
Basically, here the academic freedom of students and especially faculty to investigate, learn about, research, and publish on any topic is more important than any other concern. It's our job as an institution. What we do have is bandwith shaping to prevent inappropriate uses or entertainment uses from eating so much bandwidth that they prevent others from using their freedom for academic uses.
We heavily restrict the web (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Shrug (Score:2, Interesting)
Of course, national college ranking groups should also take this kind of network restriction into account, and penalize those colleges which block open access by issuing lower rankings.
Ranking groups should also publicize this lack of access for prospective students.
In an ideal world.
SSH + Firefox is even better (Score:4, Interesting)
If you can run ssh on a port 443 somewhere, you are as good as outside.
Get corkscrew [agroman.net] and use the following in your .ssh/config
ssh -D 2080 homebox -v -N and you're all set to rock !. And if you're using firefox, turn on network.proxy.socks_remote_dns and use localhost:2080 as your SOCKS4 proxy (so that your office DNS doesn't get a "A on mail.yahoo.com").
Needless to say, I acquired an intimated knowledge of the network protocol layers and how the different mechanisms in each layer works. I would have never acquired such a clear understanding of DNS lookups & tunneling, if I had been given a wide open network. Now, my current office has only a simplified NAT with port 25 outbound blocked (thank you spamware). But I still need to use this when I go to some campus to talk about something & suddenly miss some image or something from my machine (nearly all campuses in India have strict proxies).
And all this information is provided free of cost, with no liabilities on you getting fired/expelled for using this :)
PS: and somebody should hack CGIProxy to send entity encoded content & accept base64 encoded URLs ;)
Trinity University in San Antonio (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.trinity.edu/its/policies/tigernetusage
Ridiculous (Score:4, Interesting)
We have one (Score:2, Interesting)
Scotland and Denmark (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:It strikes me as odd... (Score:3, Interesting)
The internet is so successful because it virtually (no pun intended) removes the limits of any one individual or institution, and removing limits is just another way of saying that it extends capabilities. Realistically, no single institution can provide all existing resources. At the very least, this helps to minimize redundancies. Want to find out if a fly's brain could control a plane? A quick Google search will tell you it's already been done [discovery.com].
Is learning impossible without internet access? Of course not. But the capacity for education that it presents is the very reason there are significant efforts to make cheap laptops available in third world countries. It could be argued that the internet was the most important tool in revitalizing India, Russia, and possibly China.
Sure, people will spend a lot of time browsing MySpace or Facebook or whatever new hip site the kids are looking at these days, but the plethora of information available online -- even just including freely available resources -- dwarfs just about any single institution, almost by definition since the net is a collective. And by using information which is available online, institutions are able to free up money to be spent on other things, which only enhances the experience for their students.
Moreover, learning is "make[ing] network connections to outside sources" by definition. Learning, in an institutional setting, is an efficient way of discovering more about the world around you than you could possibly do on your own in a reasonable period of time, which is why people pay thousands of dollars for the experience.
Re:Does your university censor /. too? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Limits on Bandwidth, not Content (Score:2, Interesting)
After about 2 years the restrictions started coming. Porn sites were being blocked, webproxy sites recursively blocked, mp3, mpg, mpeg, avi, asf, wmv, mov extensions were blocked (they either did not know about
Coming back to the bandwidth limitation issue, every student was given a max limit of 350 MBs per month! which effectively killed legit downloading for god-fearing students. But then professors had unlimited bandwidths and John.the.Ripper was our friend. Exceptions were made for special cases but it continued for a long time before they extended it to 1GB (which was still horrible but atleast let you surf the net and occasionally download important files legitimately).
But contrary to the normal perception, a lot of professors (specially the ones who have been teaching there for a long time) were vehemently opposed to putting any restrictions on the net usage. I remember one senate meeting in which one stupid ass professor proposed denying web access to students in their rooms so that the only way they can surf is via the systems in the labs. The head of the CS department (also one of the most respected and loved teachers in the institute) stood up and said "So you have finally lost your mind. I will quit the day something as stupid as this was made a institute policy". Ofcourse that never happened.
So yeah some form of censorship happens in a lot of colleges (if not all of them) but not all of them are the same type. The restrictions at my college were mainly due to bandwidth concerns and political sites or controversial topics (except outright porn sites) were never banned. Although some nut cases who joined later did try to sneak in their own personal agendas but as far as I know they never succeeded.
Re:I'm an admin at a private university (Score:2, Interesting)
Why is a sysadmin playing moral cop on content? Isnt that a little bit outside of your job description?
If the goal is to truly manage bandwidth to non-critical content, then why not just manage bandwidth to non-critical content (ie, traffic shaping)?
Blocking what the sysadmin considers inappropriate content may not even help you reach your goal, not to mention the question of why a sysadmin is making moral judgements as to what's appropriate. Wouldnt that be more in line with a Faculty, or a Dean of Students or similar? Just really strikes me as the tail wagging the dog.
Traffic shaping is what every University I've been involved with does (not that the number is a huge number, but its very consistent).
There are much, much better ways to control bandwidth usage and maintain quality of service to critical content (which is a reasonable goal), without destroying all notion of academic freedom. Just throttle back the offending traffic when there's contention.
Lastly, as word gets out that you do this sort of thing, students will tend to not want to come to your school. Quality of IT infrastructure (wireless coverage, ethernet in the dorms, speed of connection to commodity internet, i2 connectivity, etc) is a big deciding factor for academically oriented students.
I'm not privy to your business plan, being a private university (all of my experience is with large public), but I think this sort of thing may do you more harm than good.
Re:I'm an admin at a private university (Score:3, Interesting)
The best thing students can do is make a lot of noise. Write to your local papers, your local news, student unions, everybody you can. Create a webpage about the problem with your University - this is the only way to get things done. Talking to people like above, who have serious power issues, will get you nowhere.