Hans Reiser Arrested On Suspicion of Murder 1651
Many readers wrote about the arrest today of Hans Reiser, author of ReiserFS, by Oakland, CA police on suspicion of murdering his estranged wife. From the San Francisco Chronicle: "Hans Reiser, 42, was taken into custody at 11 a.m., hours after Oakland police and FBI technicians searched his home in the Oakland hills. His estranged wife, Nina Reiser, 31, has been missing since Sept. 3, when she dropped off the couple's son and daughter at his home on the 6900 block of Exeter Drive... Police made the arrest based on circumstantial evidence and have not found Nina Reiser's body, [Hans Reiser's attorney] Du Bois said. 'I have no idea what the circumstantial evidence is,' he said. 'When I hear what the evidence is against him, I'll make a decision as to whether he'll talk to them.'" kimvette writes, "While the disappearance (and possible murder) of his wife is tragic, Linux users will wonder where this will leave Reiser 4. If Reiser is found guilty, will Novell or IBM pick up the pieces and finish up Reiser 4 for inclusion in the kernel or is this the end of the Reiser filesystem project? Will there be any future for the Reiser filesystem, and if Hans is found guilty and the project is continued, will the project be renamed to avoid notoriety?"
Unbelievable (Score:5, Informative)
Re:This brings up an interesting line of questioni (Score:5, Informative)
In the case of ReiserFS, the code doesn't get into the mainline kernel without it being reviewed by enough people that there is some hope of maintainability in the absence of one key person.
The problem comes in when no one else wants to maintain a piece of code, but then that's why people pay Red Hat or SuSE cash for their otherwise freely distributable distributions.
Re:This brings up an interesting line of questioni (Score:5, Informative)
Don't bother with ext3. (Score:1, Informative)
There are far better options available. JFS and XFS are the best alternatives. Both are high-quality journaling filesystems. JFS is from IBM, while XFS is from SGI IRIX. Those are both names known for their high-quality, high-performance computing systems. So it's no surprise that JFS and XFS work so damn well.
Special website (Score:5, Informative)
Re:especially since that's the only reason it's he (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Is he enough of a celebrity to be acquitted? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Don't bother with ext3. (Score:2, Informative)
I was going to move my
So please, quit spreading FUD.
Ext3 isn't the best filesystem around, but it certainly isn't crap, and it's *very* stable, which makes it an excellent choice.
As for resierfs, I have no idea. Every time I've used it, it has crashed on me. And you know what? That makes it a piss poor filesystem.
http://linuxgazette.net/122/TWDT.html#piszcz [linuxgazette.net]
Additional info (Score:1, Informative)
Chilling quote: "All avenues led back to Mr. Reiser being responsible."
I hope his wife is OK... (Score:3, Informative)
That said, he's pretty much of an arrogant asshole and Reiser4 is crap. Why would IBM pick it up when they sponsor the totally superior JFS?
I say Reiser4 is crap from experience. It ran our system load through the roof and paralyzed us for 3 days until we pulled an all night session to move 1Tb of data to JFS, which has yet to cause a system freeze.
Re:especially since that's the only reason it's he (Score:3, Informative)
Up until posting this, hansreiser(6963) had two foes, and 375 fans. And my honest guess is that most of those 375 fans were fans because he was the ReiserFS creator, and knew very little about the man.
(I never found the man palatable, so he's been on my "foe" list for years.)
I wonder how long that fan list will be in the future, no matter how this case turns out.
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Re:Unbelievable (Score:2, Informative)
That's incorrect -- eyewitness testimony isn't circumstantial.
Re:Just remember! (Score:3, Informative)
In America, you are TREATED as innocent until proven guilty. Not presumed.
The "executive" branch (police and prosecuters are part of the "executive" branch) arrested you because they believe you are guilty of violating a criminal law passed by the legislative branch. The judicial branch treats you as innocent by allowing you to post a reasonable bail based upon its interpretation of the merits of your case (past record, flight risk, seriousness of the crime, etc.).
The police think they have a case and brought it to the prosecuters. The prosecuters think they can prove guilt in court. So somebody believes he's guilty. But he is TREATED as innocent by the court system and allowed to post bail to make sure he shows up in court until the judicial system decides his guilt or innocence.
Re:Unbelievable (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Unbelievable (Score:3, Informative)
Assuming you mean Scott Peterson.. try again. They did, in fact, find his wife's body and the unborn fetus.
He wasn't convicted because he cheated mostly because of how he acted after her disappearance, and based on testimony of others.
For More Info (Score:4, Informative)
http://cbs5.com/localwire/localfsnews/bcn/2006/09/ 13/n/HeadlineNews/HOME-SEARCHED/resources_bcn_html [cbs5.com]
SUSE dev proposes ext3 as default fs over reiserfs (Score:5, Informative)
Note that it's not "dropping support for reiserfs", it's "not using reiserfs as default". You're still free to use ext3/reiserfs/xfs if you know they perform well for your workload.
Re:I hope his wife is OK... (Score:1, Informative)
while
JFS dies. FYI.
Possibly relevant Hans Reiser mail list post (Score:4, Informative)
Hans Reiser:
Well, I am going to try being honest and see what happens.
I am more than 170k in debt, and Namesys is doing badly fiscally. A
technical great success being stabilized now, but then there is my
ongoing fiscal disaster. Once again, we are missing payroll. My wife
is divorcing me in part because I keep going deeper into debt, and I
thank her for divorcing me now rather than later. Unfortunately she is
making the divorce messy enough to keep me from pulling Namesys out of
the fiscal tailspin by consuming all my time with things like proving I
am not making the fantastic amounts of money she claims I am. I hope
next month is better."
Others
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=reiserfs&m=108353
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=reiserfs&m=984246
Re:That really sucks (Score:3, Informative)
Chances are the person you know of who only served 8 years wasn't a murderer but commited a homicide of some sorts. Now there is a difference between killing, murder and homicide. I can tell you didn't know that because of your reply here [slashdot.org].
Murder is the killing or taking the life of a person unjustly/unlawfully and involves the intention of doing so. You can kill someone unlawfully and still be justified and it not be considered murder. Homicide is the killing or taking of a life usualy without intention. There are several degrees of homicide in that how you acted before the actions interpret the amount of liability a person might have. Of course killing is the taking of a life.
Now why is this important? because you obviously are getting something backwards. In 1998 representative Fox [loc.gov] from pennsylvania stated that a released murderer was five times more likley to be re-arested for murder then other prisoners in general poulation. That's five times more likley to recommit the crime they already served time for then someone who just robbed a bank or cheated on thier taxes. Sounds a little more significant then 5%.
Now, as for a person who murdered someone (not killed or was involved in a homicide) making thier own punishment. I don't think it is enough. It is like asking a kid what thier punishment should be for chewing gum in class and him saying spitting the gum out after it took an hour to decide and the flavor is gone. A murderer took a life intentionaly and probably for greed, he should have more punishment then living with the knowledge that he succeeded. As a matter of fact, I belive he should have his own life taken (wich isn't murder) from him so he isn't ever "five times more likley to recommit if released".
Re:I don't know much about him (Score:5, Informative)
Re:That really sucks (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/article
In my state of WV it is unlawful. So it by far is not lawful everywhere.
B.
Re:Unbelievable (Score:3, Informative)
Oh, and also... (Score:5, Informative)
I dont see how the story works: she drops the kids at his house, she goes shopping, and then..how does he end up killing her? He has the kids with him..at home..she's on the road. When does he have the opportunity to kill her?
Re:I don't know much about him (Score:3, Informative)
there is mention of physical abuse (though in divorce cases it isn't uncommon to have such accusations).
Relatively uncommon in California, which is a no-fault divorce state. That is, no reason whatsoever needs to be nor can be entered into the record as to cause of the divorce. (Though evidence of cause can be used in child custody fights.)
Re:Uh, hows that now? (Score:4, Informative)
Did the whole "everybody is an Enemy Combatant if we say so" thing start already and no one told me? What exactly is this "isolation" where you can't contact your laywer?
Until and unless he's formally charged (indicted), the right to an attorney doesn't actually attach, except as has been judicially constructed/interpreted. For light reading on the topic: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/am endment06/11.html#1 [findlaw.com] If he hasn't been arraigned yet (and it sounds like he hasn't), he doesn't technically have a right to counsel yet. (The 'custodial interrogation' right to counsel, Miranda et seq., says that an interogatee, upon clear demand for the assistance of counsel, either be provided with assistance of counsel or that interrogation stop until and unless the party under custodial arrest voluntarily reinitiates contact with his interrogators. It doesn't mean the attorney automatically gets access to the guy.)
Re:That really sucks (Score:5, Informative)
Here's a lot of reading material [crimelibrary.com]. Some more [peacecorpsonline.org]. A little more [serve.com]. And to top things off here's another article [findarticles.com].
Are there plenty of people who feel remorse for killing people if it was a crime of passion or one that they didn't truly want to do but felt compelled to anyways? Sure. But it goes both ways, and there are plenty of people who quite honestly are so deranged that they don't feel any remorse for what they've done. A peer-reviewed scientific study showing that most killers aren't wracked with guilt? I doubt anyone has the time or inclination to play Search-Engine-Monkey for you. Go ahead and get evidence your evidence before you start demanding it from other people. There are plenty of cases where the fact of the matter is that these killers are remorseless, you only have to know an inkling about psychology to understand that. In fact, plenty of these murderers feel justified fully in their actions.
Listen to elucido, he's trying to help you understand the situation. Most people who kill do it because they have serious problems.
passion matters here more than intelligence (Score:3, Informative)
And if you go to the more cold-blooded end of the murder spectrum, the killers actually get smarter, and outright sociopaths are often pretty bright. However, I base that on nothing more substantial than a hunch I get from what I've read, heard, and seen over the years, so don't bet any vital organs on it.
Comment removed (Score:3, Informative)
His situation in his own words (Score:2, Informative)
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=reiserfs&m=109535
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=reiserfs&m=110443
Re:That really sucks (Score:5, Informative)
Read this for another side of the story:
http://cbs5.com/localwire/localfsnews/bcn/2006/09
There are some other strange aspects to all this, the wife may have been having an affair, but (at least in UK) often divorce lawyers encourage clients to do a 'kitchen-sink' approach to try and wrest custody of the children, so her affair and his domestic violence are both suspect until we get more info.
It will all come out if there is a body, or the wife turns up in Russia.
Re:Prove that (Score:4, Informative)
Moreover, you're asking me to prove things while you are, by your own admission, presenting your wild aproximate guesses as fact. You prove it.
Would this be another one of your wild guesses?
There is a high suicide rate in prison, and for people awaiting trial. And there are plenty of murder-suicides. But that's a hell of a long way from "average people almost always kill themselves after commiting violent acts". And moreover, most of the murder suicides aren't exactly average either.
Regardless of whether someone has commited a crime, most suicides are born of depression. This means that murderers who off themselve either planned suicide and decided in advance to take someone else with them (as in murder suicide, like the Columbine massacre), or else commited the crime, were driven to depression by guilt, and later killed themselves, which is not "immediately commiting suicide" as you phrased it. The impetus for self-preservation is stronger than guilt.
A killer who does not also take their own life is not a de facto psychopath, which is what you seem to be claiming.
Re:That really sucks (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Taught not trained (Score:3, Informative)
Humans are also social animals. We will kill for food or defense, and fighting for territory falls into both categories. But rational, stable people don't kill their own kind. Unfortunately, determining "their own kind" IS taught. A child brought up in a racist household might be a normal, stable person, but he's brought up to think of other races as "them" instead of "us". Ditto for religion, nationality, or any other dividing characteristics.
Re:I don't know much about him (Score:3, Informative)
"Mama, Mia! Here I go again!
My my, how can I resist you!?"
Point Missed (Score:3, Informative)
You missed the spirit of his comment, pun intended. His comment is that the angry person's life is the second one wasted, after the loss of the first (the victim, assuming the victim and the angry person aren't the same, which would be the case in a murder).
Virg
Just as a side note about their upcoming divorce.. (Score:5, Informative)
The Reisers were married in 1999 and frequently traveled to Russia, where she was born. They separated in May 2004.
Just long enough to get her green card [us-immigration.com]
Nina Reiser filed for divorce three months later, citing irreconcilable differences and saying their children "hardly know their father" because he was out of the country on business for most of the year, according to court records.
"Verbal statements made in court" BECOMES "Court Transcript" BECOMES "Court Records". There is not anything here saying whether or not it was proven or not.
Nina Reiser was granted a temporary restraining order against her husband in December 2004 after she reported that he had pushed her and was abusive to her. A year later, she agreed not to seek a permanent order.
Temporary Restraining Orders [google.com] are easy to get, and hard to keep. In a divorce, one of the favorite tactics (of both sides) is to file for a TRO. Usually these get thrown out of court some months later. Judges typically grant TROs because nobody wants to be the judge who denied a TRO against an abusive spouse. But most of the time, TROs are just stupid games that people play.
Hans Reiser was accused earlier this year of failing to pay medical and child-care expenses as ordered by a judge, records show. He pleaded not guilty Aug. 25 to a civil contempt charge and was scheduled for trial in October.
Again, it is very easy to "accuse" somebody. One of the games spouses play is to not send bills to the other spouse, and then file a civil suit against them for "failure to pay". This is usually yet another game in custody and visitation battles.
Not that I am defending this guy, but the "evidence" in the article that he was a "bad man", just isn't any evidence at all.
her blood found in his car (Score:1, Informative)
The sources also said that Hans Reiser removed the passenger seat of his 1988 Honda hatchback and that he attempted to hide the vehicle from authorities. This is the same car that his wife's blood was found in, sources said. Police are still looking for the missing seat."
http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivalleyherald/ci_4