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Star Trek XI - What We Know 341

Jean Lucy writes "TwitchGuru has an article outlining in detail what is known about Star Trek XI. The film is in the early stages of production, led by J.J. Abrams (creator of Lost), and the movie will most likely be a prequel featuring Kirk and Spock in their younger years. No word of Matt Damon to play Kirk, though..." From the article: "As reported in early September, even former Star Trek actors are saying that CBS has kicked Rick Berman off the Trek bandwagon. This helps to allay the fears of those who say that 'they' will screw up this movie as 'they' have been doing for the past several years. As Anthony Pascale put it to me, however, 'There is no they any more. Everyone who has worked on Star Trek previously, from the top executives at the studio to the guy who sweeps the floor on-set, is gone. There's now a totally different production team running Star Trek. This is what people have been asking for now for years.'"
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Star Trek XI - What We Know

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  • What's known? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 05, 2006 @06:08PM (#16328743)
    "TwitchGuru has an article outlining in detail"

    It will, like the last 3-5 movies, suck.
  • Re:CBS? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by tverbeek ( 457094 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @06:14PM (#16328815) Homepage
    CBS and Paramount are tied up in the same megacorp.

    You do realize that only half a dozen distinct corporations control 99% of the entertainment industry, don't you?

  • Re:interesting (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Yonder Way ( 603108 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @06:14PM (#16328819)
    "for as long as i can remember everytime I trip on shrooms I get bombarbed with homosexual thoughts. Do any of you guys get this as well? I'm straight (or at least I think I am), and for the first few times I was devastated and confused because I thought I was a closet homo somehow unknown to me. I think now I realize that I was either acting out an insecurity when I was tripping, or it was one of those modes where you just become some foreign entity. I've also "morphed" into a girl before, seen things thr"

    That's what you get for leaving your screen unlocked.
  • by Faizdog ( 243703 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @06:17PM (#16328861)
    I don't know if I like the idea of a complete replacement of the behind the scenes Trek crew. Sure I'm glad that B&B are gone, but what about folks like Mike Okuda? The man behind the TNG techincal manual and the Star Trek Encyclopedia? Who is reported to have the entire continuity in his head?

    I think that replacing the problem people is a good idea, but replacing some of the other key old hands who know Trek inside and out? This along with the report on NPR this morning that A TON of old Star Trek memrobelia, props, costumes, ship models, etc are being auctioned, has me worried.

    Sure Trek was really going downhill fast since Voyager, but fix the problem, don't just toss it all away. We still want our Trek, not something new.
  • Everyone? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by exley ( 221867 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @06:17PM (#16328863) Homepage
    Everyone who has worked on Star Trek previously, from the top executives at the studio to the guy who sweeps the floor on-set, is gone.


    I don't know if this is exactly what people have been clamoring for. Quite a few people, yeah, they needed to go to get some fresh blood in there. But to mix in some new people and still have have some people around who have a history with Trek and who understand what the franchise is about wouldn't be so bad. Hopefully.


    I guess it could go either way, though. You could bring in all new people who also have an understanding as to what it's all about and have them really rejuvenate things. Or they could get people like that guy who directed Nemesis (Stuart Baird) who was so clueless about the franchise that he thought Geordi was an alien for awhile.

  • by ThinkFr33ly ( 902481 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @06:28PM (#16329001)
    ...and as far as I'm concerned, if you kill Data you have to go.
  • Re:What's known? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @06:39PM (#16329135) Journal
    She's probably still in denial over Nemesis. It's the first Star Trek film I've ever considered walking out of the cinema in the middle of; if I hadn't been there with friends I would have done.
  • by rkcallaghan ( 858110 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @06:42PM (#16329187)
    Enterprise failed because its just not that interesting to watch the "old" again. I don't want to see young Kirk.

    Bring back any of the TNG/DS9/VOY actors that want a job; seed the environment with a couple familiar faces. Everybody loves Worf and Michael Dorn basically never turns down a chance to come back, get him. Get some new blood and tell a new tale. How about the crew of the Titan; heading up that task force near the neutral zone, that has some options and I'm sure Frakes needs a job. How about a period of recovery for the Alpha Quadrant post Dominion War; paralleling the WW2 Europe -> European Union evolution?

    Maybe you like my ideas, maybe you don't. All I'm saying is seek out new life, and new civilizations; and don't try and cowardly go where we've already been a billion times. Unless you're trying to duplicate the success of Enterprise

    ~Rebecca
  • Not so fast! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by BeeBeard ( 999187 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @06:49PM (#16329279)
    Non-nerds usually consider The Voyage Home the best one (Non-Nerd: Is that the one with the whales in it??). But I agree, The Undiscovered Country was great. Kirk rules, Picard drools!

  • Thank GOD! (Score:2, Insightful)

    by davygrvy ( 868500 ) <davygrvy@pobox.com> on Thursday October 05, 2006 @06:55PM (#16329367)
    'There is no they any more. Everyone who has worked on Star Trek previously, from the top executives at the studio to the guy who sweeps the floor on-set, is gone. There's now a totally different production team running Star Trek. This is what people have been asking for now for years.'

    It was bad enough hearing Berman defend his crappy opening credits music choice for Enterprise on the first season DVD.. About time he got the boot.

    I for one welcome the new trekkie overlords..

  • Re:What's known? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Ucklak ( 755284 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @07:15PM (#16329639)
    Actually, they all pretty much suck.
    ST:TWOK(2) is good entertainment.
    ST:TUC(6) is decent entertainment on par with ST:TSFS(3) and ST:TVH(4).

    What I mean by "they all suck" is that they don't hold up well today. Watching them is like watching Logans Run, severely dated and off.

    The only one that stands out as a decent timeless piece of science fiction is ST:TMP(1).
    ST:TMP holds up as well today as it did then; slow, kind of boring, pretty to look at and listen to.
    It is not nearly as dated as the rest of them and has a better vision of technology in the future.

    One of the worst offenders of displaying future tech was ST:G(7). That movie is as dated as any Twilight Zone/Night Gallery episode that dealt with future technology.
    Why the hell do camera crews have huge cameras on their heads when a starship can view, while in orbit, people on a planet at a comfortable distance?

    The worst one was ST:TFF(5) followed by ST:N(10),ST:G(7),ST:I(9) as far as being unwatchable.
    The only watchable Next Gen crew movie was ST:FC(8).

    Alien holds up extremely well today. The only dated piece is the `mother` computer room but maybe by then, Linux will really have a foothold and command line interfaces will be commonplace.
    Planet of the Apes (1968) is another timeless piece of Sci Fi.
    Star Trek:The Motion Picture is probably the best Star Trek movie in terms of what Star Trek is about.

  • by petrus4 ( 213815 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @09:10PM (#16330965) Homepage Journal
    There was a very funerary feeling about the last few minutes of that film for me. The meeting with the Vulcans seemed as though it was meant as one last look at what Trek was about, and I don't think any studio executive can be expected to know what I'm talking about there, either.

    Although if they'd wanted to portray it in a humorous manner, (although it would have clashed with the existing vibe at the end of the film, as I said) as the Enterprise left Earth at the end of First Contact it would have been appropriate I think to have a spacebound shark [wikipedia.org] at the bottom of the screen, with the Enterprise entering warp above it.

    Star Trek is dead. Let it rest in peace.
  • by Schemat1c ( 464768 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @09:43PM (#16331263) Homepage
    Think for example a modern warship compared to not so long ago. You wouldn't even get close enough to fire, and if you did there'd be counterfire to make sure the missiles/torpedos/whatever never reached them. You could send an almost endless stream of old ships but they'd never get anywhere.

    What a short memory you have.

    USS Cole bombing [wikipedia.org]
  • Re:Harsh (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Thursday October 05, 2006 @11:05PM (#16331999) Journal
    If you hadn't downloaded movies and music on the internet, he and the set painter guy still would have their jobs.

    No, it is because he wore that red shirt.
         

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