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MySpace Trumps YouTube in Video 89

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An anonymous reader writes to mention a MarketWatch article revealing MySpace is actually the largest video provider on the internet. From the article: "Now that third-party figures are available for individual sites, we're beginning to see who's actually attracting those coveted eyeballs. According to a new video report that comScore Media Metrix will begin offering starting Tuesday morning, 37.4 million unique individuals watched a video on MySpace in July. All told, they collectively watched 1.4 billion videos. By comparison, the audience on Yahoo watched 812 million video streams, making Yahoo the No. 2 most popular video site as measured by video streams. Yahoo ranks No. 1 as measured by unique streamers (similar to unique visitors), but barely beats out MySpace."
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MySpace Trumps YouTube in Video

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  • by joshetc (955226) on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @03:33PM (#16203911)
    With all the movies on personal myspaces it makes one wonder how many were actually watched Its not often someone will visit the same youtube video daily. Very common for one to visit their friend's myspace daily though.
    • since I can't upmod you, I'll just say that's a very good point - a lot of those videos are repeat visitors probably, and quite possibly people trying to up their own watched cound...
    • by LiquidCoooled (634315) on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @03:37PM (#16203999) Homepage Journal
      The videos are just an incidental part of visiting the page.
      Its like the god damned 1998 geocities crapola.
      • Interesting point. Do you have anything to substantiate the claim?
        • Actually yes.
          I just did a very quick google search for site:myspace.com video
          heres one [myspace.com] from the first page of results.

          myspace is crap.
        • by Nasarius (593729)
          What the hell are you babbling about? It's not a "claim", it's the simple truth that you can observe if you have ever used MySpace.
    • by bronzey214 (997574) <jason.rippel@NoSPaM.gmail.com> on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @03:40PM (#16204065) Journal
      I only RPOTFA (read part of... well you know) but it seems like those were the ones actually watched. It calls them unique views.

      My question is - are they the ones just initialized or viewed completely? I know a lot of the videos on myspace are dumb home videos by 12 year olds (as are most on YouTube, but the overall quality on YouTube is better) so does a viewing count as only clicking on the video of the kid eating the worm, or is it after the video completes and you see him puke it up?
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by slashkitty (21637)
      My guess is that they are actually just watching YOUTUBE videos on Myspace pages. youtube is by far the #1 video provider.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by dthree (458263)
        No, those would be counted for YouTube. TFA mentions this.
      • Re: (Score:1, Funny)

        by Anonymous Coward
        FTA: "MySpace's figures do not include YouTube videos viewed on MySpace. The views are only of the site's own videos viewed either on their property or embedded across the Web on blogs or on distribution partners".

        You are by far the #1 wrongness provider.
      • by dfghjk (711126)
        so much for insightful. from the article:

        " Just to be clear, there is no double counting, according to comScore. MySpace's figures do not include YouTube videos viewed on MySpace. The views are only of the site's own videos viewed either on their property or embedded across the Web on blogs or on distribution partners. So, YouTube's 649 million video streams count the videos viewed on YouTube as well as blogs that might have embedded a YouTube video."
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Golias (176380)
      With all the movies on personal myspaces it makes one wonder how many were actually watched Its not often someone will visit the same youtube video daily. Very common for one to visit their friend's myspace daily though.

      I have a MySpace page, and I have many friends with MySpace pages which I visit frequently. Video links on a MySpace page are *not* viewed every time the page is visited. You must click on "Play" to see them.

      Also, it seems that the vast majority of videos shared on MySpace are embedded You
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Paul Slocum (598127)
      If you look at the stats, Myspace had 37k unique streamers/day, and Youtube had 30k unique streamers/day. So they're pretty close for number of unique video users. It's just that Myspace gets a lot more videos viewed per user, which I suspect is from embedded and pushed content.

      The quality of the content of the videos on Myspace isn't even close to Youtube IMO. I just quit watching Myspace videos because they were often ads, or they just weren't funny or interesting. The features on Youtube often are
  • Judging by MySpace's average user profile, I didn't even know most of them could program HTML to include videos.

    yes, I know of MySpace's video feature. I'm just trying to be 'funny'.

    I still consider YouTube's feature to be better due to their (comparative) lack of advertising.
    • Re:really? (Score:4, Funny)

      by varmittang (849469) on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @03:38PM (#16204011)
      Get enough retarded people together and they will procreate. Thus, Myspace.
    • Re:really? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by nanio (937692) on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @03:44PM (#16204159) Homepage
      MySpace has taught more kids CSS than all of us combined.
      • by British (51765)
        MySpace has taught more kids CSS than all of us combined.

        Last I checked, myspace has no teaching facility, and never will. I'm assuming most of the kids are copying & pasting CSS code from some blinky-ass website to copy & paste. Heck, even I copied & pasted some helpful code to make a custom contact table.
        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by ElleyKitten (715519)

          Last I checked, myspace has no teaching facility, and never will. I'm assuming most of the kids are copying & pasting CSS code from some blinky-ass website to copy & paste.

          Copy and paste still teaches. Even if it starts out looking like gibberish, eventually, you see that this gibberish does that, and that gibberish does this, and you can start to break it down. Then, you get curious, and want to do something slightly different from your copy and paste, so you start actually working with the code

          • I'll believe that when I stop seeing "I edited my profile with BACARDI'S Myspace Editor V3.6! [strikefile.com]" on the end of everybody's about me.

            There are several pages where the code is simply copied and pasted, and the html is extremely sloppy. If anything I recommend the basic html and css tutorials over at w3schools [w3schools.com] to those that want my help with their page, so at least they know what I mean by "opening and closing a tag".

            /.02
      • by Wakko Warner (324) *
        MySpace has taught more kids CSS than all of us combined.

        If by CSS you mean "nothing at all about CSS", then I definitely agree.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by kirun (658684)
      The average MySpace user has trouble reading the English language. Due to a tool on my site called "CSS Preview" having a feedback form (with a nice heading above it announcing this fact), I get the occasional submission of some lame MySpace template from somebody who clearly thinks that MySpace is the internets, and my site will magically detect what they wanted and turn their markup-vomit into a display of how their inane ramblings will look when a template created by running FrontPage output through the
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by TheRaven64 (641858)
        MySpace users also rudely hotlink my images.

        Oh, but there are so many fun things you can do with this. For best results, only divert 10% or so of MySpace referrers to something else; that will keep the page owner guessing when they receive complaints, look at their page, and see what they expect to see.

        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by caluml (551744)
          Yeah.
          RewriteEngine on
          RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?yourdomain\.com [NC]
          RewriteRule .* /files/goatse.jpg [NC,L]
          It'll soon stop that.
        • by kirun (658684)
          I've been reluctant to implement referrer-checking tricks, thanks to my experience at work. AcromymFinder.com whitelists user agents, so if you're behind Squid with the privacy features turned on, the site more-or-less tells you to eff off, you clearly-screenscraping-thief, and come back with IE or Firefox or something. I don't want, should some firewalls block refererrs, to brigten some poor person's day by changing all of the images to "Stop Thief!!" or whatever. I've manually changed filenames in the pas
      • by Darthmalt (775250)
        thats easy to fix just link our old friend goatse and have some fun. "Land That Design Forgot" i am so stealing that.
  • by Entropy (6967) on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @03:39PM (#16204051)
    MySpace Trumps YouTube in Video


    Maybe, but I won't *believe* it till I watch it on youtube.
  • I don't think YouTube was the powerhouse it is now back in June. Sure, it was popular, but my parents are using youtube now. They weren't in June. My Mom has had a myspace account since April and doesn't care about myspace videos, but she sends me youtube links all the time now.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    While the article mentions that a third party is gathering the data, they don't mention exactly how the measurements are made? Are the sites now instrumented to provide the stats? Do they assume that landing on a page with a video is the same as "viewing" it (I assume not from the description). Also interesting would be to find out how much data is actually being streamed, how long the videos are and how long the user watches a particular video (e.g. MySpace users tend to watch 80% of the video while you
    • Go to http://www.comscore.com/ [comscore.com] to see how they measure usage. Basically, they have software (installed on millions of PCs) that logs web info. No exactly spyware, but close. They often refer to it as researchware.
      • From the Comscore site you linked:

        This provides no information about the content on each Web page, including secure content, without which it is impossible to capture detailed transaction activity across all sites. comScore's proprietary technology captures not just clickstreams but all content, including secure content, in an elegantly simple manner that ensures the complete privacy protection of all participants.

        Sorry, but that -is- spyware, and of a very nasty type. The only question is how no one

  • Willingly? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by xitshsif (909565) <simonp@alumni.purdue.edu> on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @03:44PM (#16204167)
    Many of videos on MySpace start playing as soon as the page loads. I wonder how many videos are actively played on each site.
  • Not so fast! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by slashmojo (818930) on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @03:45PM (#16204177)
    How many myspace videos were user generated/uploaded rather than myspace/fox promo vids pushed to all their users?
  • by User 956 (568564) on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @03:46PM (#16204197) Homepage
    An anonymous reader writes to mention a MarketWatch article revealing MySpace is actually the largest video provider on the internet.

    In other news, Universal has announced that they plan to sue MySpace first, then YouTube.
  • And? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Trashhalo (985371)
    How is a study like this helpful at all? Find a site you like and use it. I personally like youtube because its layout doesn't kill braincells. Secondly its a site designed from the ground up to share videos not something added onto a social networking site as a after thought. But back to my original point my needs are different than your needs and thats why there are different sites offering video. If myspace works for you then run with it. The only thing that a article like this will cause is flamewars.
  • better compression (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I upload to both myspace and you tube. myspoace has better compression and audio video sync.
    This probably is partially the reason
    • I upload to both myspace and you tube. myspoace has better compression and audio video sync.
      This probably is partially the reason


      I was waiting for someone to mention this. The major complaint I have about YouTube is that my videos are converted to mono sound, where MySpace retains the stereo sound. I also upload all of my videos to both sites, for maximum exposure, but the MySpace versions always seem to look/sound better (source video is WMV 9 at 512kbps).

      Personally I hate the interface/user experience of
  • I don't know but I know a ton of myspace pages are actually filled with embeded youtube videos... so how many can myspace claim are theirs?
    • by dfghjk (711126)
      RTFA

      "Just to be clear, there is no double counting, according to comScore. MySpace's figures do not include YouTube videos viewed on MySpace. The views are only of the site's own videos viewed either on their property or embedded across the Web on blogs or on distribution partners. So, YouTube's 649 million video streams count the videos viewed on YouTube as well as blogs that might have embedded a YouTube video."
  • by Donniedarkness (895066) <Donniedarkness@@@gmail...com> on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @04:00PM (#16204475) Homepage
    I think they're forgetting something big in this report-- Most videos on myspace are not HOSTED by myspace (As a matter of fact, a lot of the--probably most I've seen-- were youtube). Also, most videos put on a myspace page are PLAYED each time someone visits the page, and I (unfortunately) know several people with SEVERAL videos on their page (one girl in particular with 5 videos).

    So these statistics are kind of BS...I'd be much more interested in seeing how many slashdotters have a myspace account.

    Myspace.com/uryuu_Ishida

    • by dfghjk (711126)
      "...Most videos on myspace are not HOSTED by myspace..."

      Not true. From the article:

      "Just to be clear, there is no double counting, according to comScore. MySpace's figures do not include YouTube videos viewed on MySpace. The views are only of the site's own videos viewed either on their property or embedded across the Web on blogs or on distribution partners. So, YouTube's 649 million video streams count the videos viewed on YouTube as well as blogs that might have embedded a YouTube video."

      "Also, most vide
  • NB. Irrelevent opinional post.

    Since I've not seen a single myspace video... only youtube videos via myspace... it looks like the world is coming to an end because I've lost my grip on reality. (finally! yay - I'm diagnosed)

    Or, you might find that myspace doesnt trump youtube, but that the original accessor site IS mysapce and that the videos are HOSTED by youtube.

    Finding the google news portal, "the biggest news site on planet earth ever", or google.com as "the internet", might also be great articles.

    Matt
  • MySpace Wallops YouTube?
  • ComScore's rating system is based in part on a traffic-tracker they get on people's computer by pairing it with ad-blockers and other things... it's pretty much spyware. So the users that have it installed are, more than likely, idiots that will install anything. I don't trust their numbers.
  • First time I've heard of it.
  • by WedgeTalon (823522) on Tuesday September 26, 2006 @04:33PM (#16205101)
    Dear Slashdot,

    I really enjoyed your "MySpace Trumps YouTube in Video" article. It was very insightful. I also liked how it never mentioned YouTube save for in the title, cause then I have to read the original article to find out what you're going on about!

    Yours Truly,
    WedgeTalon
  • by Yvanhoe (564877)
    All of that, without the function "save", *sigh*...

    By the way, am I the only Amber geek who imagined wired things with MySpace making a call to YouTube thanks to a Trump card ?
  • by mcwop (31034)
    In Soviet Russia mySpace Trumps youTube too.
  • the collective pornography industry is sitting back and having a good laugh. Just because it's pr0n doesn't mean you don't count it.
    Be fair. We know you've all done it, you statistics-recording, survey-writing freaks!!

    P.S: TFA looses its significance when you realize that most of the 1.4 billion video views were of the same scantily clad 14 year old girl.
  • The most popular thing is crap.
  • by johansalk (818687)
    And I use neither myspace or yahoo. What's wrong with me! why am I so abnormal!
  • But most videos viewed on myspace are hosting on youtube and just embeded, I think they are counting videos hosting on youtube but played throuhg myspace as myspace and not youtube.
  • ...especially since myspace video requires Internet Explorer to even work. ANY other browser nets you an error message if you so much as try to play a video.
    • ...myspace video requires Internet Explorer to even work.

      I use FireFox exclusively, and have for a few years now... and I've never had a problem with MySpace videos. I've been using FireFox long before I even heard of MySpace.

      Their videos are Flash (whatever format you upload is converted to a Flash video, same as YouTube), so if you have a relatively recent version of the Flash Player installed, the vids work fine in Firefox. Also, though their pages are generally far from standards-compliant, they show ju
  • While I don't watch many videos online, YouTube would be my only choice out of those for a goodly part of the day. MySpace is blocked by our filter at work.

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