Don't Be Evil — Hire It Done 332
MarkusQ writes, "The NY Times among others is reporting that Google is ramping up its lobbying clout (registration or bugmenot required). The 'Don't be evil' search engine company has hired the infamous astroturfing and dirty tricks firm Direct Connect, Inc. You may remember DCI from their recent attempts to pass off their 'Penguin Army' video as a product of some lone wit, unconnected with their client, Exxon. Or their involvement in Microsoft's 'even dead voters love Microsoft' campaign. With a staff of veterans in the biz (such as Chris 'Swiftboat' LaCivita and Jim 'Electioneering' Tobin), led by Tom 'Big Tobacco on the Dole' Synhorst, I'm sure DCI will be able to give Google whatever they're paying them for. The question is, what are they paying them for? And does 'Don't be evil' imply 'Don't pay professionals to be evil for you?' Or could there possibly be a non-evil reason to hire these clowns?"
Re:Surprise! (Score:5, Informative)
There's nothing wrong with hiring evil people.. (Score:2, Informative)
..as long as you get them to do good stuff. Worked out great for the CIA and Osama afterall.
Corporations are psychopathic (Score:5, Informative)
It is very admirable that Google is attempting to bridge this divide but the effort is ultimately futile. Google has shown that when it gets down to the bottom line, it must choose profit (i.e. China).
Hiring this lobby firm is just what is necessary for business as usual in the good old USA capitalist system. You buy youself whatever laws you need to maximize your profit. I love Google just as much as the next person but to expect a corporation to not be evil is unrealistic.
The Economist (a pro-capitalist magazine) has some more information on this: http://www.economist.com/business/displayStory.cfm ?story_id=2647328 [economist.com]
Re:Thanks (Score:3, Informative)
Re:But astroturfing is what they DO (Score:5, Informative)
They sure are. As they put it themselves "Whatever the issue, whatever the target--elected officials, regulators or public opinion--you need reliable third party allies to advocate your cause. We can help you recruit credible coalition partners and engage them for maximum impact. It's what we do best." The services they provide include:
What they don't seem to do is anything legitimate, or at least non-slimy. Got any examples you'd like to share?
--MarkusQ
Two Words... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:can we just agree (Score:1, Informative)
Re:But astroturfing is what they DO (Score:3, Informative)
The whole point is, the ads didn't come from such people, though they were designed to appear as if they had. That's what astroturfing is all about.
They were, in short, highly sophisticated trolls.
--MarkusQ
DCI is in fact evil (Score:2, Informative)
We're talking Swift Boat Vets, McCain 2000 push-polling smear, good friends with Rove and PFA.
Here's some links, you lazy bastard.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=DCI_Gr
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tom_Sy
http://mediamatters.org/items/200408260008 [mediamatters.org]
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/001250.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCI_Group [wikipedia.org]
Read my links (Score:5, Informative)
*sigh* And after all the trouble I went to to provide links. This isn't some "gosh I think they may have done it" speculation. Tobin, for example, is presumably telecommuting from prison [senatemajority.com] at this very moment, since he started his ten month sentence in May. And the other charges are likewise documented in the links I provided. At this point there's no reason for me to tell the authorities anything because they already know.
--MarkusQ