Google In-Flight WiFi? 52
Google has been trying hard to be break into the Enterprise market, without notable success. The Formtek blog suggests that projects like this week's roll-out of free WiFi in Mountain View blur their focus from areas where they might achieve a higher ROI. Both Boeing's and Verizon's recent announcements of exiting the in-flight WiFi space might be an opportunity for Google to capture more attention from business eyeballs in airports and on-flight.
But highly unlikely.
But highly unlikely.
distrust of "?" (Score:5, Insightful)
Next: "Google may enter the console market but most likely not..."
Business Model (Score:3, Insightful)
When I think of Enterprise market, I think of more traditional bussiness models such as Product or Service in exchange for money. Google didn't achieve success through this kind of model and that may be a reason why they're having such a hard time breaking into the Enterprise market.
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How about train wifi (Score:4, Insightful)
Train wifi should be much easier and cheaper than plane wifi, so why isn't there any interest in it?
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Here in the UK (or "Home of the worst railways in Europe" as it is often described) GNER [gner.com] are busy putting Wifi in all their trains. It isn't dazzlingly fast, in fact it feels rather slower than the 225km/h that the trains are supposed to do. And it is only free in first class. Still much more connected than a plane, though.
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Train: maybe 100? mph
Realize that much air travel isn't aimed at city hopping, but rather getting somewhere more distant.
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London to Paris - 289 miles (all google maps)
London to Rome - 1
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To paraphrase one of the giants, "Give me enough money, and a bank account to put it in, and I can move the Earth."
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But seriously, airplanes don't have to worry about tectonic plate drift
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Ever tried to fly a plane recently ? Security restrictions are driving me insane. Train used to be a pain for transporting luggage, but at least you know it won't be exploded because "someone had a doubt". If it is 2 hours of plane or 4 hours of train (with the additional time for check in in plane, it is frequent) I'll take the train. Less hassle.
And let's not forget : the prices are not the same.
Screw the train; Buses (Score:2)
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article is flawed... (Score:2)
It baffles me that people write articles like this. Why skew things to prove a point. Make a factual article and find out what the results are as you go along.
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it's that last segment (Score:2)
That would mean 4200lbs/seat for the train.
So a lightweight auto would be 420lbs/seat.
So that's either a 1 seater at 420lbs, 2 at 840, 3 at 1260, 4 at 1680 or 5 at 2100.
The lightest cars out there are about 2500lbs (Honda Civic) and don't really hold 5.
A real lightweight car at 2500lbs with 1 person is 1.2 tons/seat. With 2, it's 0.6 tons/seat.
This may not
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Cars are twice as efficient as they were in 1975 when CAFE was enacted - SUV's excluded; if you are driving an SUV then the fuel efficiency of planes vs. trains is probably not interesting to you :).
I agree that the Acela math doesn't add up. But that odd factoid doesn't really affect any of his other math. In any case, the current state of train technology in the US is really sad. I take NJ Transit and Septa sometimes, and they are using 60s-era electric heavy rail complete with conductors walking the ais
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Even if we installed the latest
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I doubt that. LA to NY is 2700 miles. I'd actually wager that most US domestic air travel is under or up to 1000 miles.
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That said, the train infrastructure in the US is so much more sparse, and so much slower than in Europe or Asia that I believe my point still stants. With notable exceptions the train system simply isn't up to the task of supplanting air travel in the US without tens of billions of USD along major corridors.
America's train is the automobile. If it had free wi-fi and no n
Why? (Score:2)
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I fixed that for you. It takes maybe seven or eight hours (give or take a bit) to fly across the United States (as little as 5.5 hours if you can score a nonstop flight). A train would most likely take at least three or four days to make the same trip. Even the "high-speed" trains that run in Europe and Japan are less than half as fast as your average twin-turbofan airliner. For the short trips (300 miles or less) where time spent waiting in
Enterprise market? (Score:2, Funny)
Last one to Vulcan is a rotten egg!
careful how you read that... all's not gold (Score:4, Insightful)
Doing anything with moving vehicles costs real money, and no more so than with airplanes, where the coverage has to be extremely broad, and the RF issues and internet routing are non-trivial. There's a reason why Boeing got out of the business: they couldn't make it cost effective. It's not that people don't want to send and receive mail periodically in the air, but they sure as heck don't do it in huge numbers at the price Connexion could deliver.
Furthermore, there is an entrenched base in airports. Typically in the US it's a company like T-Mobile who *do* offer decent service at attractive rates. And what do people do when they get to their airport and jack in? They connect to their VPNs. So it's not like Google can even insert ads in that sort of environment or provide searching or what have you. So sure, they could offer a service, but it's got to go head to head with others with little technical advantage, if any, and perhaps some disadvantage, such as lack fo bilateral aggregation agreements.
So, I look forward to more good stuff from Google, but let's keep reality in sight.
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off-topic: sattelite broadband for trucks and RVs (Score:2)
Here is an example of an off-the-shelf broadband solution for emergency services, a commercial trucker or the ultimate RV: Magellan Ground Control [groundcontrol.com] Priced from $4500-$6600 US. The dish deploys and sets up in about five minutes. Instant Hotspot. But you must be parked. Coverage extends deep into northern Canada, Alaska and northern Mexico.
It is expensive even for Google (Score:2, Insightful)
How is Google going to make money out of this? By "charging" people?
Sure I can get some work done in-flight, but what with the Captain asking you to switch off all electronic equipment, 3 hour battery life of my laptop and my company prohibiting VPN access over unsecure wifi network, that work will be very little to matter. I am not sure I would shell out money for that. The work won't be worth even the reimbursement request.
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Existing businesses benefit any time they hold back the expansion of their competitors.
New businesses can have prohibitively high costs of entry which Google doesn't have.
Small businesses are stifled w.r.t. emerging markets; they can be wiped out on a whim.
Huge businesses can profit with different methods than places with 25-99 employees.
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That's interesting.
Why does you company have a VPN? To connect various units in different cities?
k2r
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Please block all VOIP in flight (Score:2)
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Trying hard? (Score:1)
Really? By having nearly every product in a perpetual Beta state? pssh.
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For bunnies sakes... (Score:2)
I wish I could give -1 "Editor with too much free time" to this "article"....
Oh noes (Score:2)
Not entirely suitable material, I think you'll all agree.
Google news (Score:2)
Google cure cancer?
Google invent a time machine?
Google change colors in their logo?
Google release Google Vista?
Google give up search engine business and start building zoos? With pandas? But not regular pandas, but genetically modified pink pandas?
No. They just don't. But we can play "make up a news totally out of the blue" some more if you have more time to waste.
Google Salad Spinners! (Score:2)
Why not?
Hey, it is reasonable as many of the other I-
Punny (Score:2)
In-flight WiFi highly unlikely?? Get it? Highly unlikely? In-flight?
Ahh..