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Edgy Eft Knot 2 Released 183

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Klaidas writes "The Ubuntu project has released a second Knot CD — an alpha version of Edgy Eft. Notable new features include a new 2.6.17 kernel, Gnome 2.16 beta 2, Firefox 2.0b1, OpenOffice.org 2.0.3 and much more. It is availible for download on Ubuntu's image server. The final stable version is still slated for release in October 2006."
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Edgy Eft Knot 2 Released

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 02, 2006 @01:44PM (#16030305)
    Its not supposed to tell you anything.

    Its a code-name. Its the devs having a little fun. The official name will be "Ubuntu 6.10". Think of it like "Windows Longhorn". Longhorn was the code-name. Does Longhorn tell you anything?
  • by grammar fascist (239789) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @01:50PM (#16030320) Homepage
    Hoary Hedgehog was the worst by far. I actually kind of liked Breezy Badger, and Dapper Drake exudes coolness.

    Yeah. Edgy Eft. That's a step backward. You could call it 6.10 instead if you like, and that would tell you the year and the month it was (or is going to be) released. But really, what does "Vista" tell you about what you're downloading? Even 2.6.17 doesn't help much - just that it's somehow better than 2.6.16, and that's if you're familiar with the version numbers. You'd really need to read the changelog to find out, so it's still not much better than "Vista."
  • by grammar fascist (239789) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @01:55PM (#16030333) Homepage
    ":s/downloading/buying" please. I wouldn't want to be seen as advocating piracy or anything, especially not on Slashdot. :D
  • Re:60 days? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Ian Alexander (997430) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @01:57PM (#16030342)
    Today is the 2nd of September.
    Edgy Eft is scheduled for release "in October 2006".

    That's about 60 days maximum to go from a 2nd alpha ... to beta ... to release. Isn't that a bit optimistic? Particularly for a release that is developer driven and packed with candy.

     
    Well, feature freeze is in 5 days, so the only things coming through the pipeline in those two months are bugfixes/security patches.
     
    And even if it's not good enough, they can always fall back on "It's edgy eft! What are you complaining about?"
     
    As a general FYI, Edgy Final should be out on the 26th of October, barring disaster or pushbacks.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 02, 2006 @02:04PM (#16030366)
    A knot is the collective noun for newts (an eft is a young newt).
  • by Gavin86 (856684) <`moc.liamg' `ta' `hcnyl.b.nivag'> on Saturday September 02, 2006 @02:10PM (#16030384) Journal
    Just skimming the specs [launchpad.net] of some of the new things implimented:
    • Optimized Live CD layout for faster boot
    • Thin clients local device support
    • Using dash instead of bash which makes the boot, "30s faster"
    • updated Galago
    • much faster shutdown process
  • by gvc (167165) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @02:13PM (#16030388)
    You have to pronounce Nazi as not-see to get the pun.

    I pronounce Nazi as gnat-see so it doesn't work for me,
    unless I translate to Ahmerikhan.
  • Page rank? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Rob Simpson (533360) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @02:18PM (#16030399)
    Isn't page rank on distrowatch based on clicks to the various distros pages on that site, rather than what distro you're actually using?

    "The Page Hit Ranking statistics have attracted plenty of attention and feedback. Originally, each distribution-specific page was pure HTML with a third-party counter at the bottom to monitor interest of visitors. Later the pages were transformed into plain text files with PHP generating all the HTML code, but the original counter remained unchanged. In May 2004 the site switched from publicly viewable third-party counters to internal counters. This was prompted by a continuous abuse of the counters by a handful of undisciplined individuals who had confused DistroWatch with a voting station. The counters are no longer displayed on the individual distributions pages, but all visits (on the main site, as well as on mirrors) are logged. Only one hit per IP address per day is counted."

    ...yeah, so what it actually means is that, because it's well known and at the top of the list, Ubuntu is usually the first page clicked. This records one hit, and then no other hits are recorded for that IP for the rest of the day.

    So it doesn't really say whether it is the most commonly used distribution, merely that it gets the most clicks to its page within distrowatch.
  • by bsdluvr (932942) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @02:20PM (#16030404) Homepage
    Eft is just another word for newt. A newt -a small aquatic salamander- is able to re-differentiate its cells, and regenerate its eyes, spinal cord and limbs. Maybe the new name is trying to say Ubuntu is as robust as a newt? I don't know...
    It's a bit far-fetched anyway, and it doesn't sound as cool as Breezy Badger.
  • by dvice_null (981029) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @02:26PM (#16030414)
    The Linux Counter statistics claim that Ubuntu is not on the top, Debian is the number one, but then again, I'm pretty sure that people signing up for this counter are hardcore users, while Ubuntu has propably attracted a lot of new users. But it is the best stat I know, or atleast another view in this issue:
    http://counter.li.org/reports/machines.php [li.org]
  • by Talchas (954795) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @03:31PM (#16030572)
    First of all, its not very obvious. Second, while you can do that, typing a path is painful due to automatic completion of file/pathnames. I never know how many letters of a path I have to type before it completes and I am forced to start typing the next path segment. Its a really good way to stick yourself three directories down the wrong path if you type quickly. While there may well be a way to turn this off, I have no clue where it might be.
  • by temcat (873475) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @03:34PM (#16030580)
    Using dash instead of bash which makes the boot, "30s faster"

    More like 3s faster. And dash breaks scripts that shebang to sh instead of bash (a fairly common practice). Granted, they should've use the right shebang in the first place, but these scripts worked before, and now they don't! This may seem as a minor annoyance - you can always relink sh back to bash. But the problem is, an average user won't understand why his 3rd party app suddenly stopped working with Edgy. There is no error message that would explain the problem in layman's terms and offer a solution. Therefore I think that 3s of boot time aren't worth the potential trouble for users.
  • what's to translate? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 02, 2006 @03:39PM (#16030589)
    Americans pronouce it like the Germans did, with the "a" as in "Vater". "Gnat-see" would be more like "Naezi" (with an a-umlaut) but even that's not quite the same thing; you'd sound like a South African.
  • by vadim_t (324782) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @06:09PM (#16031025) Homepage
    "Guepardo" is cheetah, "guarrete" is from "guarro", which would be "filthy" or "obscene".
  • by CrazedWalrus (901897) on Saturday September 02, 2006 @11:30PM (#16031684) Journal
    You can upgrade just by changing all occurences of 'dapper' to 'edgy' in /etc/apt/sources.list. 'aptitude update' and 'aptitude dist-upgrade' will get you *most* of the way there.

    A word of caution, though. This didn't go 100% smoothly for me. First of all, I had to run the dist-upgrade several times, and go through synaptic's 'mark all upgrades' a couple times as well. I finally got it to install what needed installing, upgrade what needed upgrading, and remove what needed removing. It just took several iterations. The only other issue I've had so far is that my nVidia drivers broke with the new X.org. I just downloaded the newest driver package from nVidia, and it was off to the races.

    Now that I've had a little time to poke around, I generally like it. It seems there's an IMAP bug in Evolution, so I'm using Thunderbird for now. I'm sure they'll have that worked out quickly enough. Lots of things seem cleaned up in the admin tools, a bug fix seems to have gone in for my Intel wireless card, things like that.

    Overall, I'd say your chances of surviving an upgrade via aptitude are very good if you are the technical type (I assume you are). So far, I like what I see.
  • by kolme (981304) on Sunday September 03, 2006 @04:37AM (#16032039) Journal
    Yes, it is an English word: here's a definition [answers.com], or you can see [flickr.com] it with your eyes.

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