Stolen Cell Phone Shares Thieves' Photos? 133
eastbayted writes "A man from Berkeley, Calif. had his cell phone swiped. Soon after, the ShoZu starting uploading pictures to his Flickr account taken by the thieves — for the world to see. There's one of an unidentified woman eating something chocolatey, and a couple of either a chihuahua or a large rat. Seems this guy had installed some software on his phone to automatically perform those photo uploads, and whoever took his phone didn't realize it That's his story, anyway ... some people doubt it. He's a Yahoo employee. Yahoo owns Flickr. This is all pretty good PR for the photo site, no? He claims: 'People assume I'm doing it for self-promotion, marketing, a hoax or something like that. I'm talking to you because I want it to be known that it's not a hoax. I'm just too ordinary. I'm just too unclever for that.'" Update: 09/02 05:48 GMT by Z : Made the quote more obvious.
did anyone else read the summary amd think... (Score:5, Funny)
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I'd say "what the flickr?"
(couldn't resist posting it...)
It's in the article (Score:5, Interesting)
Apparently the guy (allegly -- assuming you don't believe it's all some sort of elaborate PR hoax) had some software on his phone that caused photos taken to be automatically posted to his Flickr account. This is pretty reasonable, actually: Flickr lets you post photos via email, so it would just involve programming the phone to automatically send photos to an the address for this. His phone was stolen, and a while later, photos of random people started showing up on his Flickr page, taken by the thief, we assume.
The real interesting part of the story is not all this, though, it's how it turned into an Internet phenomenon and in particular how a lot of people really tore into him for being a PR flack. Personally I think that the story is probably legit, particularly in hindsight, but a lot of people didn't.
Apparently after he took so much crap about it being a stunt, he disabled the software and has written off the phone.
A crappy ending to what could have been a pretty neat story, if you ask me.
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Assuming that phone does actually have the ability to post pictures to flickr, The pics of the thief & his friends could have also got posted at Flickr - if only the owner had'nt disabled the software.
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By extension, anyone who knows your upload-by-email address can post to your photostream too, so make of that what you will.
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The Rise of the Conspiratorial Class (Score:3, Interesting)
Yeah, I don't know if anyone else has noticed but there seems to be a rise in the general "OMG it's a conspiracy" reaction for every news worthy event these days. I find it bothersome that if a real world anomaly pops up the automatic reaction is for it to be either a government or business conspiracy. What happened to
well, being taken advantage of breeds cynicism (Score:2)
It's a natural response to being tricked, you begin to take fewer things on faith.
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"Humanity" and the "story" are illusions, and fraught with lies about the way things are. We've enough problems with what actually exists, why bother making stuff up? This guy's making an acc
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No they are not. They are after putting forth their own skewed version of reality. That reality for them is a form of cynical "everything that I don't like is a conspiracy". If someone talks about a form of politics that doesn't suit their own reality, it's a "conspiracy". If someone markets a form of product that isn't to their liking, it's a "conspiracy". If someone happens to have a story that becomes popular in news media it's automat
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It looks to me like the guy left his phone on the train and somebody picked it up and is using it. He wasn't robbed at gunpoint, he's just a loser.
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First, a quick definition, taken from dictionary.cambridge.org:
theft : (the act of) dishonestly taking something which belongs to someone else and keeping it:
Taking that phone was theft, pure and simple. Anyone who picks up a phone from a public space and fails to hand it to the nearest resonably responsible person is committing an act of theft. They are stealing the phone as
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I managed to return IR£100 (about $150) to someone a few years ago (this was during my first month in Uni) when I found a wad of money outside a parked car and figured the owner had dropped it. I waited about 40 meters away for 10 minutes with a friend, waiting for the person to come back; when it turned out it
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The problem is, the story essentially already happened [slashdot.org]. Sure it's kinda neat in that justice sort of way, but it's not that original anymore, and most of the reason people bag on him for PR stunt is because of the connections they make between his place of employment and his photo service of choice.
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Massage? (Score:1)
Re:Massage? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Massage? (Score:5, Funny)
I hope they post pics! Especially if it's one of those really FUN massages!!
Re:Massage? (Score:4, Funny)
Too bad flikr is down... (Score:2, Insightful)
Flickr is Down? (Score:1)
And yes, this is a strange story.
Not Slashdotted (Score:3, Informative)
Just some rather bad timing in posting the story here, I guess.
who cares? (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, for $5 a month, Sprint offers a full replacement plan. If someone steals your phone, they void the ESN of the stolen receiver, and they send you a new one. problem solved.
...which leads me to believe this is a hoax. (Score:2)
GSM phones also have an ESN. (Score:2)
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But the ESN is embedded in the SIM card, not in the phone itself. That's why GSM phones can be carried across to different carriers.
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That is $60/year. SO if you expect to have a phone stolen once every 3 years, it is equivalent to $180/per phone stolen. You could probably buy a replacement for less on eBay. Heck you could probably buy your own phone back [oregonlive.com] for less.
for certain phones, it's worth it. (Score:3, Interesting)
Spending $60 on a "no questions asked" replacement policy for a $600 phone is kind of a no brainer. And I do mean "no questions asked". Theft, destruction, malfunction, airline shenanigans with your luggage, basically *whatever*. Believe me, it's worth it.
Depreciation (Score:2)
Cell phones are pretty much the fastest depreciating things around. They lose about 50% of their value every year. Does your insurance premium go down by that much?
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Idiot Tax (Score:5, Interesting)
Well, for $5 a month, Sprint offers a full replacement plan.
That's the idiot tax.
In a 10 years period, you would have paid 600$. You
would have to lose phones pretty frequently to break
even.
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to Sprint.
Even better put it in the back. At the end of 10 years it will be
worth 700$ even at a moderate rate of interest.
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Can you buy a new phone with the $15 in your box?
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What happens if your phone is stolen in the first three months, when it's at its most desirable?
Can you buy a new phone with the $15 in your box?
After you get you get your replacement phone, you will still continue
to pay 5$ per month for the next 9 years 9 months, right?
That's why I am considering a 10 year period.
You may have 1 new phone stolen in the first 3 months. But over a 10 year
if you have too many phones stolen, you probably shouldn't be carrying
a phone around.
Or... (Score:1)
Or you could just pay the $5/month. Jeez!
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If that, and they depreciate really fast. After a year, a 'phone is pretty hard to sell for enough to even cover the effort of listing it on eBay and posting it.
Stealing a mobile 'phone doesn't make a lot of sense. They are usually disabled within 24 hours of being stolen these days (in the UK), so you need to fence them really fast. At that speed, you would be lucky to get 25% of market value. If you have a top-of-the-line 'phon
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Most people can afford $5 a month, but to pay $600 for the cost of a new phone in one go, especially when you don't expect it, can be slightly more difficult.
Another thing, if paying 600$ at one go is difficult, you shouldn't be purchasing
a 600$ cell phone in the first place.
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Lemme guess, you think home, medical, and auto insurance fall into the same category?
Insurance is basically a scam - it's meant to benefit the insurance company &
not the insured.
You should insure only when the loss will be unaffordable.
Home, Medical & auto insurance fall into this category.
(Auto because of lawsuits).
Even out that there, you should be choosing your deductibles
smartly to reduce your premium.
For an auto insurance, keep your deductibles as the maximum
you can afford to pay without becomi
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So, yes, they're necessities. But you should practice self-insurance against non-catastrophic losses. Extended warranties and product replacement plans are usually bad deals. If you
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the plan also covers breakage-- no questions asked. How many of those 100,000 people have ever dropped their phone, do you think?
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Again, something that the vast majority of people don't need, but the company offers because it's free money to them.
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Er, well, if that were true, then this [theregister.co.uk] means that there are at least 6.2 billion phones in use in London, UK. If you assume most people keep their phone for, say, 18 months, that actually works out at 18.6 billion phones. And that's just phones that are lost, not even stolen. And only the ones lost in black cabs.
FYI, there are approximately 10 million people in London. I think your estimate may be off.
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I'd be surprised if there were 6 billion cell phones in existence.
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So, er, that was kind of my point.
I had thought that was obvious. Maybe I shouldn't have assumed that.
Possible? (Score:2)
-matthew
Re:Possible? (Score:4, Informative)
I'm not sure why you ask about automatically taking pictures with a "cron" function - because that is not part of the story. Apparently the photos were manually snapped by the alleged thief, or someone in possession of the phone. The phone just automatically uploads new images taken by the user. As for the automatic photographing - why not? You can get software to do just about anything with your phone - time-based things like alarms are available. So I don't see why you couldn't do the autmatic picture-taking.
I Can a user upload an arbitrary program to their phone and have it run? I thought your provider pretty much controlled what your phone can do and what programs are on it.
Depends on what phone you have, and who your provider is. My Nokia runs the Symbian OS, and I can write software, or buy/download thousands of different applications for it. Not sure why this seems so far-fetched to you.
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It is, effectively, a general purpose computer, running a general purpose OS. It has more CPU power and RAM than the computer I was using as my main machine 10 years ago and it comes with a full SDK.
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The norwegian road authorities apparently does something similiar when doing road maintenance, and have stored 18m+ pi
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Instructions for posting to Flickr from Cameraphone: http://www.flickr.com/get_the_most.gne#cameraphon e [flickr.com]
From Nokia to Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/nokia/upload/n93/ [flickr.com]
From that page,it seems users have to manually upload the pictures to Flickr.I dont find a option to AUTOMATICALLY post every new picture.
Re:Possible? (Score:4, Interesting)
Ewan
Disabled Software? (Score:2)
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Ewan
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Blind acceptance of trusted computing? (Score:2)
I thought your provider pretty much controlled what your phone can do and what programs are on it.
Only if your phone is tied to your service provider and your agreement with said provider / firmware controlled by them prevents you from running your own software. Would you be surprised to hear that some people can run arbitrary code on their own computers without being prevented from doing so by their ISP?
If your way of thinking
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You're just being condescending. I haven't owned a cell phone since they've become more general purpose devices. I was ASKING if and how it is possible to do somthing such as in TFA. I didn't know. Pa
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Worst Excuses Ever (Score:1)
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"having a massage"
I can't imaging what's next
Sounds like the T-Mobile/Sidekick scenario (Score:5, Informative)
A similar thing happened a few months ago when a T-Mobile Sidekick was stolen. Apparently, T-Mobile stores a copy of all of your data and photos on their servers so that if you switch phones you have access to all of your data and photos. The "thief" apparently wasn't aware of this and was soon identified because of the photos that she took of herself and her neighborhood. It's a long story, but an interesting read.
mod parent up (Score:2)
I can't believe nobody else remembers this other event happening just months ago. It ended with arrests and stuff.
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Stolen Laptop Calls In! - Will Police Act? [slashdot.org]
Short Version of TFA (Score:1)
The phone, the thief, his wife and a Chihuahua?
September 01, 2006
(Reuters) - "Me too! [evanwashere.com]" said Web designer Ben Clemens.
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He told me to come to an address in Corona Queens because he got ball and hed give me the Sidekick so he could hit me wit it. I informed them that I had all their pics, their email/screen name and would post this online. They informed me that they had the white little biyotch info who owned the phone and would post that online too.
What I like about this day and age, is that it's apparently more worrying to have photo's of you put on the internet, than to be beaten up. This shows how the inter
Sprint PCS last year (Score:1, Redundant)
not just lying but overlydramatic too? (Score:3, Insightful)
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To him, having the cellphone or getting "revenge" just isn't worth the effort that he's even put in so far (having the pictures automatically uploaded t
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A lesson not yet learned by the RIAA, and similar agencies. Pandora's box is open, guys.
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I wouldn't be so quick to pin the quote on him (in fact, it's not a quote at all.)
Saying someone "just wants their life back" is hack reporting 101, especially when the deadline is near and the writer needs a quick line to tie everything together.
Crime (Score:1)
O RLY? (Score:5, Informative)
O RLY? Take a look at this pic [flickr.com], supposedly taken with the stolen camera phone, then at this one [avtoindex.com], the first result for "Chavelle" on Google Images. Looks familiar? And I'm not taking his lame excuses.
Re:O RLY? (Score:5, Informative)
Probably thats why he put this disclamier on Flickr for the car pic:
Now you see her ... (Score:1)
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Suspicious (Score:2, Insightful)
I wouldn't trust a guy who speaks newspeak and has a camera-phone, uploading pictures automatically. IMO he's thought-police..
Deja Vu (Score:1)
HINT: If you steal a phone, do not take pictures of yourself and make them public. This is almost the same as leaving your wallet at a bank after you rob it.
Hoax (Score:2, Troll)
But what strikes me is that there are photos that are obviously his both before and after the "thief's" photos. So either it's a hoax, or Flickr for some reason inserts your latest photos halfway down the list. Or he got his phone back. Any other options?
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Update ! (Score:2, Funny)
ShoZu? (Score:2)
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Too Bad He Didn't Upgrade (Score:2)
Hmm
why is this on /. (Score:1)
Lame marketing ploy by Yahoo (Score:2)
Yahoo's financials have not been that great lately. They recently overhauled their message boards, and the result is so bad that their message board traffic plummeted.
Yahoo has a problem - not enough traffic to their content sites. This lame ploy is some marketing person's failed attempt to drive up traffic.
Know the guy (Score:2)
I doubt, very much, this is some kind of marketing ploy or otherwise, it would be well below Ben's character to participate in such a thing. Besides, I believe he's just a creative director and why would Yahoo tap their CD to do such a thing, doesn't make any sense.
So put the tin foil hats back on, I can 99.9% for certain say this is legit.
Not sure--my theory (Score:2)
Wouldn't that make him the perfect target?
After all, don't enough people work at Yahoo for them not to all know each other?
I think someone else at Yahoo/Flickr (who knew his phone was stolen) gained access to his account information [sysadmin?] and started uploading the photos...
Makes a great PR ploy...
or even makes a great prank....
The sincerity and integrity of thus g
Doesn't Make Sence (Score:3, Insightful)