Windows Vista Prices and Release Date Leaked 378
Nieske writes "Prices and the release date for Windows Vista have leaked online. Ed Bott's Microsoft Report has information on pricing, and the release date is currently January 30th, 2007. Are they really going to make the deadline this time?" From the ZDNet article: "In Canada, at least, the rumors of a 'modest' price increase were true, based on this list. Will these same relative prices hold true in the U.S.? Who knows? But if they do, then it's mostly good news for Windows customers. There's no price increase for Home Basic. Home Premium, the Vista version that maps most closely to the OEM-only Windows XP Media Center Edition, will finally be available as a retail product for a slight bump over the Home Basic product, similar to the $39 premium typically charged by large OEMs for Media Center upgrades. And Vista Business buyers will get a break with a small discount relative to XP Professional."
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What I'm guessing is that these are estimates for the release date but it will most likely be pushed back and that these prices are correct and direct from Microsoft. Intentional, though, not 'leaked.'
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Is it going to come bundled with the first security patch or will I have to download it separately?
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Regarding the leak date, I think January 30th is probably not a wise move (or maybe it is?) After the holiday spending spree, most people won't have money left and those who got new computers as gifts will need to upgrade their OS.
As you said, people who get computers for Christmas will be tempted/forced/suggested to upgrade their OS to the latest one, if not immediately, sooner than if they were sold vista on day one.
As a sales ploy, it's cunning, how many other companys can make you an offer of sellin
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When I got my iBook shortly after the release of OS X Tiger, it came with a free upgrade CD. Now, granted that the order here is different (hardware first, then release the new OS) I wonder if MS would do the same; heavy discount/free upgrade to Vista if you bought yuor PC after such-and-such a date.
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from the article, price list (Score:3, Informative)
Windows Vista Ultimate $499
Windows Vista Business $379
Windows Vista Home Premium $299
Windows Vista Home Basic $259
UPGRADE versions (all prices Canadian)
Windows Vista Ultimate Upgrade $299
Windows Vista Business Upgrade $249
Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade $199
Windows Vista Home Basic Upgrade $129
I didn't do the conversion to real money.
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Me too--after a power surge killed the mobo and hard drive, I built what amounted to a completely new PC. I installed the OEM copy of XP I originally purchased on the new machine and noticed in the EULA that it only applied to the original "computer".
So I actually e-mailed Microsoft and ak
Re:from the article, price list (Score:5, Informative)
The end result is: OEM is tied to a computer. However, you can change anything except the motherboard, and it's still the same computer. You can also exchange the board if it's due to a 'defect'.
And 'defects'... well, accidents happen. It's a dangerous world.
Only drawback is that once you do change motherboard, you are required to activate the copy over the phone, and if it was a big-name OEM (those that don't normally ask for product key when you use the recovery disc), you may have to replace the key that's on the OEM sticker with a replacement issued by MS phone support. But in the end, the license is still valid - as long as the board swap was due to 'defect' (or, essentially, if you lie it was due to a defect). So in reality OEM is transferrable, if you know what you are doing.
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It pays to have a good relationship with the big computer store in your neghborhood, and the address for Newegg.com handy.
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Well, don't just tease us... what's the address for Newegg.com?
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In order to buy a cheaper OEM copy of Windows you need to qualify as an equipment manufacturer. The easiest way to do so is to purchase the prerequisite hardware from a vendor to prove that you are a PC builder. Some vendors require you to purchase as much as a motherboard and CPU, while others simply require a $10 mouse. Check into some such online retailers (sorry I have no examples) to land yourself an OEM copy of Vista.
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Windows Vista Ultimate 22.9 g / gold
Windows Vista Business 18 g / gold
Windows Vista Home Premium 14.2 g / gold
Windows Vista Home Basic 12.3 g / gold
Windows Vista Ultimate Upgrade 14.2 g/ gold
Windows Vista Business Upgrade 12.3 g / gold
Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade 9.4 g / gold
Windows Vista Home Basic Upgrade 6.1 g / gold
That's a lot of gold arrrrrr.
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Windows Vista Ultimate 1 leg 1 arm
Windows Vista Business 1 leg 1 ear
Windows Vista Home Premium 1 arm 3 toes
Windows Vista Home Basic 1 eye 1 ear (you won't be getting Aero anyway)
Windows Vista Ultimate Upgrade 1 arm 4 toes
Windows Vista Business Upgrade 1 arm
Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade 1 ear 3 toes 2 fingers
Windows Vista Home Basic Upgrade 1 eye
All prices include your soul.
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Prices in US dollars (Score:2, Informative)
Windows Vista Ultimate ~$450
Windows XP Professional w/SP2 ~$387
Windows Vista Business ~$342
Windows Vista Home Premium ~$270
Windows Vista Home Basic ~$234
Windows XP Home w/SP2 ~$234
UPGRADE versions
Windows Vista Ultimate Upgrade ~$270
Windows XP Professional w/SP2 Upgrade ~$234
Windows Vista Business Upgrade ~$225
Windows Vista Home Premium Upgrade ~$180
Windows Vista Home Basic Upgrade ~$117
Windows XP Home w/SP2 Upgrade ~$117
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That's more like "Canadian prices converted to US according to current rate" rather than expected price. I think companies rarely base their price in different countries on the change rate. Just look at how they constantly screw the Brits...
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Wow $399.00 for the Operating System... and, how much is the hardware?, and what can this Operating System can do?
I guess we (in Mexico) will continue to get it the Aye! way, it would be stupid to think that people will pay $400 for Windows when they payed $300 for the computer.
Ha!
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Ok you can all go home now.. Microsoft is closed.
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I can't wait to watch tech support with all of these versions floating around.
User: "I have Windows Vista, and I want to do x, can I? How do I?"
Tech: "Uhhhh...god. Ummmm, what version of Vista do you have?"
User: "Version, what version? It's Vista."
Tech: "Is it Home Basic, Home Premium, Homosexual, Gamer, Business, Business Gamer, I Think I'm Running A Business But Might Be Delusional, OpenVista, NetVista, Free...oh wait, Ultimate?"
User: "It's Home...I think."
Tech: "Which Home?"
User: "I just want to do some network stuff. sob-sob-sob"
Tech: "Is it 9:00am yet? I need a drink."
THat's the problem with proprietary software (Score:2)
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But his karma whoring allows my total laziness to even avoid clicking TFA, so I can just scroll down the thread!
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Incorrect.
1) It's not official until we have something from the official software producer.
2) Microsoft releases an OS & you get the service packs for free. Apple releases an OS, and the service packs as another OS. (I mean how many of the tiger updates were changes to desktop artwork?)
The really funny thing of course is that the BSD & Linux guys are going to laugh at both the Apple & MS fanboys arguing over which of their overprices
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While the Apple & MS fanboys laugh at them about how many weeks they take to set up WPA2 on a wireless connection (if they even can).
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total BS.
Tiger gives you Spotlight, Dashboard, Automator etc.
are you saying MS gives these "service pack features" for free? NO, that's what you're paying for Vista for (except you don't get Automator).
MS service packs give you features that Apple include in the first place, such as a firewall and the ability to go on the internet for more than 12 minutes.
Apple service packs are free (security updates and "minor" program updates).
Also Apple only sells full OS versions. if 10.2, 10.3, 10.4 didn't interest you then you can go straight from 10.0 to 10.5 for the same single low price (10.1 was free). Apple releasing more often gives users options about when to update. for MS users the choice is between a very expensive OS or a less expensive but feature-crippled version.
Also the OS X licence requires no activation and is legal to use on several computers (not sure the exact number since I only have 1 anyway).
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You each are saying different things. You talk about features that aren't service pack updates and asking if MS gives them away. He's talking about service pack updates that you need to pay to receive. You can't stay on 10.1 and still be up to date,
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Second, how many times will you buy OS X in between releases of Windows? Since XP came out, you've likely bought OS X three times (10.2, 10.3, 10.4) at $129 apiece and soon a fourth. The copy of XP you bought or, more likely, got from an OEM in 2001 is only now getting a pay-for update.
OS X is more expensive. If you like it more, that's cool, but your argument that it's cheaper doesn't hold up.
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Course I just avoid the whole issue for my personal machine and run Fedora + XGL, because I don't have g
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Well, if we consider that none of those OSes are released yet and prices may change just like release deadlines... no, it's still alive.
SP1 Release date (Score:5, Insightful)
Price is not the only cost... (Score:2, Insightful)
Enjoy your DRM.
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No Vista for Christmas? (Score:2)
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Microsoft would rather prefer to boost Windows sales. As in: one XP license that is shipped with that brand-new Christmas computer, and a month later a Vista license when the sheep decides to upgrade its OS.
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Yawn. Nothing to see here, please move along. (Score:5, Insightful)
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OB bash.org (Score:5, Funny)
[Th3No0b] Im going to be the next hitler
[Th3No0b] Im going to burn all the MS-Windows servers and 1 BSD server
[RageAgainsttheAmish] why the BSD server
[Th3No0b] See? no one cares about Windows
[RageAgainsttheAmish] lmao
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You're today's latest and greatest, so what makes you think that you won't run Vista when the time comes?
Win2k was also fairly stable and ran everything at the time, yet you went to XP. You will care about Vista for the same reasons that you run XP today.
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[oblig eve post]Eve-online just this _week_ made Win2k the minimum OS version (which blew me away that they were still supporting Win98 clients until this week). How long will XP remain a eminently useful OS to the majorit
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Lots of security features (drive encryption, much improved firewall, address space randomization, users aren't admin, lots of IE security improvements), loads of revamped new stacks (audio, print, network, video), IPv6 by default, new memory manager,
Market segmentation (Score:5, Interesting)
It is an increasingly unpopular pricing method because people resent it. Note, for instance, the rapid growth of budget airlines (in Europe at least) - a lot of their popularity can be put down to the fact the traditional pricing model for flights was highly segmented - customers have come to resent paying different prices for essentially the same thing and so the budget airlines, with their simpler pricing model, have grown in popularity.
It is interesting that Apple do not do this, they don't even have separate "upgrade" prices. If you want the latest version of their OS or basic software (iWorks or iLife), then you pay one price. As a customer I like that.
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That is incorrect, at least in North America (I know firsthand about Canada and I'm told the US it was the same). I remember when WestJet began operations (it was the first truly viable independent budget airline in Canada). It was less than a week before the competition had seat sales that often matched or even slightly undercut WestJet's offerings. If price alone was a
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And do you like that you have to pay for every small upgrade on the OS, which is not the case with Windows?
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I would rather pay for good, gradual additions of things that I actually want than get gradual additions of stuff I don't want and then have to pay a lot for essentially a completely new operating system which I need to buy a new computer for. So yes, I prefer the Apple way.
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Of course, at least on the OS it doesn't make sense for Apple to offer a separate upgrade price. All Macs come with OS X, so all Mac users are upgrade users.
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Also, I second the others who question your assertion that price discrimination is becoming less popular. It's never been popular when done poorly, and isn't usually noticed when done well. To wit: Old Navy, The Gap, and Banana Republic are all owned by Gap Stores (GPS). They get their clothes from the same factories. But they are marketed differently in different stores and with different tags, and people will pay a lot more for the same
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Apple does have two versions of OS X and they sell iLife versions seperately as well. Considering their market share, that's probably all they can justify. I see no point in MS having so many versions of Windows but it would be amazingly absurd if Apple did that.
Since Apple brags abou
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I would love it, but this wins the Wishful Thinking Prize 2006, I fear...
Expensive upgrades (Score:2)
(And to think I already thought that WinXP Pro prices were too expensive.)
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Let's get this straight (Score:5, Interesting)
Call me negative but I'm not exactly in hurry to join that particular queue.
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They quite intentionally want you to buy a new PC with the OS preinstalled. It's where the volume is and it's where the perception "buying a computer" means buying hardware with a windows OS installed.
As another post mentioned, the OEM prices are where the action is. It will be very interesting to
Amazon's taking orders for Vista (Score:3, Informative)
http://news.com.com/2300-1016_3-6110494-1.html?pa
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I didn't need this... (Score:3, Funny)
i was just going to watch the Weather Channel and check for frost warnings for Hell and its surrounding counties...
Questions and Answers (Score:3, Funny)
Are they really going to make a release that will resist to cracking more than 15 minutes?
You all know both answers, however.
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You all know both answers, however.
I hear they're shooting for 20 minutes this time. One step at a time.
What is the REAL Worth? (Score:2, Insightful)
Essentially a single-user operating system:
For:
-NO BACKUP Utility (Even *NIX has tar/gzip) and crond
-An integrated Web browser, inseperable (or with great effort) from the core OS
-NO Support for Firewall (I don't trust Microsoft's FireWall)
-NO NATIVE DVD Player (due to "licence" cost)
-NO Ability to set permissions on files for multiple users
-PISS-POOR Command Line Interface (try renaming 10 files, u
Where is this going? (Score:2, Insightful)
It is now cheaper to buy a Mac (Score:3, Informative)
* Windows Vista Home Premium, $239/$159
* Windows Vista Business, $299/$199
* Windows Vista Ultimate, $399/$259
* MacOS X Tiger (single user) $129
* MacOS X Tiger (family license) $199
* MacOS X Server $999
I suspect that Windows Vista Ultimate is not the server edition, which will almost certainly be more expensive than $399. So... assuming comparable hardware prices for Apple x86 PCs vs. the generic market, Microsoft has now priced themselves above the competition. I seem to remember Microsoft taking the market by _undercutting_ their competitors some decades ago. It would appear they have forgotten what competition does to the market leader. Perhaps it's time they relearn that lesson?
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Here's another point: Most people get their copy of Windows preloaded on a system. OEMs don't pay anywhere near retail for Windows XP. Windows XP Home, for example, is around $85-$90 for OEM System Builders and about 1/2 that for the big tier-1 OEMs.
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- Windows 95: 1995
- Windows 98: 1998
- Windows ME: 2000
and the NT line- Windows NT 3.1: 1993
- Windows NT 4.0: 1996
- Windows 2000: 2000
- Windows XP: 2001
- Windows Vista: (~2007)
XP, according to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org], was 10/25/2001, although the CDs are labelled '2002 version'.Compare to Mac OS X (Score:5, Funny)
Mac OS X: $599. To be fair, there is a Mac Mini bundled with.
His American prices are guesses (Score:4, Insightful)
The prices he lists are for canada only. The information for America is just him guessing what the prices will be.
"Based on current U.S. prices (which I wrote about last week), I would expect Windows Vista to sell in the U.S. for the following prices (full/upgrade):"
"Of course, these are guesses only. Some discounts will probably be available in the retail channel"
This isn't leaked information, it's guesses made by the guy.
Obligatory Bullwinkle quote (Score:3, Funny)
"But that trick never works!"
"This time for sure! Presto!"
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So you back to your ignorance, I'm gonna go play some Quake 4.
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Changed to Tuesday because.... (Score:5, Funny)
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There are certainly some applications which require a certain version (Media Center, IIS, etc, etc) but I cannot think of a single example where a MS application supported by both Home and Pro versions have ever had the Home version crippled in some way. I may well be wrong and would be interested to hear examples if I am.
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How useful that is for anything except a terminal server is debatable. Most business / home users don't need more than one person on a workstation at a time.
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The biggest deal is that the ability to rip a DVD is only in the home upgraded version, and the ability to use non-M$ networking protocols is only in the pro.
Starter is a joke and will only run 3 pieces of software at once. This version of Vista is like an "upgrade" back to Windows 3.1.
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You'll still have the ability to rip a DVD the old-fashioned way, without the DRM. Just use the programs you do now to decrypt and rip. You just won't have it built into Media Player/Center. And you won't have Media Center at all if you get Home Basic. Home Premium is essentially what is currently Media Center Edition.
Also, I wouldn't think you'd need
Re: Vista Broken in Many Ways (Score:3, Interesting)
Starter Version: Really REALLY broken (supposedly for developing nations)
Home Basic: DVD burning is broken, Eye-candy is half broken. Desktop search is broken
Home Premium: Desktop search still broken. Will it be able to join a domain? I bet it won't. You'll have to pay extra for that. FYI: it appears that if the OEM PC has a DVD burner, you *must* buy home premium so they can protect you from your own ente
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You are not very well informed. If you had invested in a interstellar subspace communicator and listened to the cosmic news channels every once in a while you would know that January 29th 2007 is be the day the Windows Vista development servers, all the backups along with the Vista development team it self and Steve Ballmer's entire collection of hand made throwing chairs is scheduled to be abducted by they grey aliens.