First KDE 4 Snapshot Released

Rich writes "KDE has just released the first developer snapshot of KDE 4. This release isn't for end users, but should help developers who want to begin writing applications for the KDE 4 desktop. This release already includes a new CMake based build system, a change from DCOP to DBUS and of course a port to Qt 4. If you're interested in desktop development, check it out."

Re:Screenshots?

[strcmp]

As of now, the interface looks exactly the same as it did in KDE 3.5.

Re:Dbus over Dcop?

[Ant P.]

From what I've used of both, they work almost identically anyway.

Re:I'll switch to dbus when ...

[Laxitive]

You should still be able to do that in the new KDE. Maybe the command name will change (I hope not, because I have several scripts I'd have to change over).. but the functionality should still be there, the same interfaces should still be exposed by apps, and the ability to access it from the shell should still be preserved.

DBUS is just a message passing layer implementation. How that functionality is exposed is still well within the control of the KDE developers.

I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you have something to worry about, then I have something to worry about... and I'm not worried.

Just chill and look forward to Kerry, solid, phonon, plasma, and all the rest of the good stuff coming our way :)

-Laxitive

Not really

[WindBourne]

In general, the developers and users all seem to say; eh, whatever. The simple answer is, there is no real battle. When GNOME had a late start into this, then yeah, there was a bit of a battle, That was years ago. These days, both sets of developers are trying to make everything interoperable (witness dbus and multimedia).

For some odd reasons, there is a group of A.C.s that seem bent on starting a battle between these groups and making them focus on each other rather than focusing on beating others groups.

Re:Dbus over Dcop?

[Carewolf]

Yes. The new Qt-DBUS module contains a tool similar to the old dcop utility, so you can script to your hearts content.

Re:Screenshots?

[Anonymous Coward]

Wow, this will tremendously ease the transition from a real operating system with multimedia support to the limited Linux-platform ... not.

Huh, which multimedia doesn't Linux support? The only stuff I can think of is DRM-infected stuff that I wouldn't touch with a bargepole. Certainly Linux plays all my CDs and DVDs just fine.

Re:Screenshots?

[Ichigo Kurosaki]

Screenshots [slashdot.org] have been available for a while.

Re:Stolen from OSNews.

[Anonymous Coward]

Don't worry, I assure you that the same person (me) posted it in both cases. I wanted to see the reaction here as well. I just don't bother using an account on Slashdot.

But the reaction on OSnews was exactly what I was poking fun at. I just think it's really sad how seriously and personally some people take criticism of their preferred GUI, and I couldn't resist throwing that one out there to see the response. Childish, I know, but not as childish as being in love with a Desktop Environment. Of course, I could have stepped in to break it up, but I always follow the maxim: 'Never return to the trolling once it's been lit'.

The KDE vs. GNOME debate has well & truly replaced the Emacs vs. vi one of yesteryear (vi is far superior, of course...).

KDevelop4 will dave integrated forms design

[Burz]

Have a looksee! http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2201 [kdedevelopers.org]

Re:Screenshots?

[Punboy]

Those are/were not screenshots. They are mockups of ideas. Nothing there is final, nor is anything there real (yet).

Re:Kde 4.0? :)

[Punboy]

Exceedingly pre-alpha. This is being provided solely for the purposes of debugging, and for porting important applications early. the main KDE libraries have been ported to Qt 4, and have been partially rewritten. To give developers a headstart (and for them to help work out bugs), they released this. It is in no way meant for the public to ooh and aah over, and frankly i'm irritated its on slashdot.