Real to Offer Open Source Windows Media for Linux 228
cpugeniusmv writes to tell us News.com is reporting that RealNetworks plans to release an open source method to allow Linux users to play Windows Media files. Currently Linux users are able to play the two main Windows Media formats (wmv and wma) but only if they install closed-source modules. The ability to launch this initiative comes from a recent licensing deal between RealNetworks and Microsoft and the antitrust settlement against Microsoft.
already there? (Score:2, Insightful)
BUFFERING... BUFFERING... BUFFERING... (Score:0, Insightful)
False Summary (Score:5, Insightful)
Currently Linux users are able to play the two main Windows Media formats (wmv and wma) but only if they install closed-source modules...
Totally false. ffmpeg / mplayer / vlc etc. can all decode WMV files *natively* using the ffmpeg libavcoded libraries.
The problem is not decoding the files, that is trivial. The problem is dealing with the copy protection. Another open source library is not going to help this, because it will still never be allowed to decrypt the copy-protected files.
Re:already there? (Score:5, Insightful)
I do love mplayer though.
Re:That'll be great (Score:5, Insightful)
1) Try to instruct a novice user to find and download the free version on their website. Not an easy task but doable.
2) Try to install it without it inserting stuff into Windows startup - I use Startup Control Panel but not everyone is so lucky.
3) Try to remove the messages/popups etc. from a standard installation - again, not for the novice.
I applaud any attempt at open-sourcing software but I would worry about the quality of the code if their primary app is in this much of a mess.
Re:...err (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:False Summary (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, mostly. ffmpeg can decode WMV 7/8/9 and WMA 7/8. There is no decoder for WMA Pro, WMA voice, or WMA lossless. WMV8 decoding has bugs and may drop certain keyframes.
Dear RealPlayer, (Score:5, Insightful)
(My underlying complaint is that you don't have a half-recent version for Windows Mobile. I've tried to convert these to WMV but it doesn't work well. Releasing a WM5 player - or even a J2ME player - would shut me up for now, but your real problem is you have the obscurest, proprietariest file format ever.)
no thanks. (bombing on Real.) (Score:3, Insightful)
I have no time to read an article about Real networks, but i will take the time to state how much i dislike it.
Real media has been one of the most annoying web technologies since it came out. For instance: trying to sneak in lame apps and silly toolbars during the install. Trying to hi-jack file permissions.. Winamp has always delivered better quality, free and less annoying content.
It is just about worthless as a media player when compared to VLC [videolan.org] or any number of other players.
The only thing Real had going was content protection,.. but now streaming with flash (youtube, pornotube, google.video, ect.) is cake so they do not even have that. I can see why they would be trying to give the app to anybody who will take it.
the last place i want to see it is in a linux distro.
hrm... what else.. it's ugly & stinks too!
Re:already there? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Dear RealPlayer, (Score:4, Insightful)
And while most players let you have a fairly big buffer, RealPlayer sounded staticy, like bad radio reception. I suspect it had some clever way for dropping quality, but I shouldn't have needed that with my connection -- and yet, it still spent half the time buffering.
CarTalk is a humorous radio show which answers automotive questions, half-seriously, you never know if they're giving you good advice or just messing with you. They switched from RealPlayer several years ago, because as amazing as it seemed (even to them!), RealPlayer managed to be significantly worse than Windows Media Player -- Microsoft did far, far better than them by being almost mediocre.
If Real wants to gain respect, then yes, they should open their own format. We don't need all the source code, just the codecs, thanks.
If Real wants to survive as a business, they should drop the farce and just start selling their spyware directly to botnet controllers and peddlers of animated cursors.
By the way, whoever suggested that Flash has replaced Real as the format that does copy protection... Flash may not be as open as we'd like for playing, but it's easy enough to rip the video out of it. Or at least, I've done that with audio -- pulled an ordinary mp3 file out of a Flash presentation. With Real, you have to use the Analog Hole, not that it's that bad -- the sound quality sucks so much that encoding it as a 56-bit mp3 wouldn't hurt.
Re:no thanks. (bombing on Real.) (Score:1, Insightful)
Mention the magic words "open source" and it's like everyone here is turning into a Real fanboi. I still standby the words of another slashdotter a couple of years ago. The quicker Real goes down the quicker we can stop having to deal with their crap.
Some criminals never reform even though they are let out of prison. I bet that's the case with Real.
Re:except this one will be legal (Score:3, Insightful)