Borland Announces the Return of the Turbo Products, with Video 286
Leonel writes "Borland Software's Developer Tools Group just announced the return of the Turbo line of products. With free and cheap versions, it's aimed at students, hobbyist developers, occupational developers and individual programming professionals. More information is available at the the Turbo Explorer website, including a video of the Adventures of TurboMan."
Turbo C (Score:3, Informative)
I still keep a copy of Borland C++ 3.1 (the last DOS version).
It was an awesome IDE, very productive.
Good old days.
(Not that today is less bright, Vim/gcc/gdb has it all, too.)
Re:Delphi??? (Score:5, Informative)
Anyway, Delphi is only half of the picture here. There's Turbo C++ and C# offerings along with the native Delphi and Delphi for
Basically, the explorer versions are advanced IDEs for these languages, free of change, allowing commercial development. There's your motivation.
Great stuff! But... (Score:3, Informative)
These days Borland Developer Studio gives me time to make some coffee.
BUT .Net 1.1? Seriously? We've been at 2.0 for some time now, right? Did Borland just miss that announcement?
Re:Coincidence? (Score:5, Informative)
Microsoft lifted the end date back in April. It's being offered for free forever. Well, as long as forever goes with Microsoft (The VS2003 toolchain didn't take long to disappear).
Re:download (Score:5, Informative)
Well, there's that
27 days, 9 hrs, 40 mins, 30 secs
until the Turbo(s) are here!
timer there [turboexplorer.com]. Might explain the missing download links.
Intellisense (Score:2, Informative)
Although I use it with not-that-complex projects, in my case the difference between speed is evident: it takes forever for the list of relevant options to show up in Borland's IDEs, while in VS the speed at which it shows up and can be used is the same, even after the project grows in complexity.
Re:Turbo Prolog (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Delphi??? (Score:2, Informative)
I was blown away. I created my application in less than 3 days (minus user testing) --- but the best part is that my app was *fast*. Nearly as fast as if it was written in C/C++. My app was moderately complex (or at least not of the 'hello world' variety), performing user authentication via SOAP connection, connectivity to SQL database and record inserts, XML parsing, and multiple forms.
I have to admit, being able to code Win32 with drag/drop components that just work is refreshing. All without a framework or DLL runtime requirement. I am a Delphi convert, and plan to continue using Delphi to develop Win32 apps. However, I'm not a zealot and I know that C# has it's place and I plan to continue using it where it makes sense.
The more tools that a developer can have in their toolbox, the better.
Re:The free version... (Score:1, Informative)
Re:TurboC (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Delphi??? (Score:2, Informative)
Sorry, I don't have a clue what you're referring to. Delphi uses Pascal's perfectly commonplace operators chosen to be similar to myriad other Algol-derived or -inspired languages.
Just because you've never dared stray from braces languages doesn't mean that any other convention is "weird", "funky", or deliberately contrary, you know.
Re:Delphi??? (Score:1, Informative)
As I write this, work is proceeding to add new language features such as generics (parameterized types), partial classes (class fragments), and some other items considered very "modern" by today's language standards. The Delphi language offers a significant level of source compatibility between the native Win32/ia32 compiler version and the
Compete with M$ (Score:3, Informative)
My students are instructed to bring CD-R's the first week of class so they can get their free VS 2005 Pro. I used to use Borland's Turbo products, many years ago when I was first starting out in college. I don't remember how much I payed for them but I do remember them being student friendly.
How is Borland going to compete when college departments can pay $799 for the first year and $399 for each additional year of the MSDNAA and be able to give their students thousands of dollars worth of free software as well as install that software for free in their labs?
Re:Borland IDE's (Score:2, Informative)
No, I use it in Linux all the time. FreePascal [freepascal.org] and Lazarus [freepascal.org] are being actively developed and are very powerful. Most code you wrote in Delphi/Kylix can be compiled (most of the time with little or no changes) with FPC with the delphi mode compiler directive turned on.