SCO Stock Continues Downward Spiral 186
tobiasly writes "TechNewsWorld reports that three and a half years after SCO saw its stock price increase tenfold to US$20.50 following the filing of its lawsuit against IBM, it closed Tuesday at US$2.28 per share, or two cents less than where it was before the lawsuit. This follows a sustained slide fed by poor earnings results and courthouse reversals which, according to OSDL CEO Stuart Cohen, shows that 'Linux and open source software are bigger than any one company. Linux has won in the courts and is winning in the marketplace.'"
The end is near... (Score:2, Informative)
A close of $2.28 means the stock has lost about 98% of it's value over the last 7 years.
Still have a long way to go (Score:3, Informative)
Re:The title should read... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Still have a long way to go (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Still have a long way to go (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Net Worth (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Net Worth (Score:5, Informative)
SCO CEO McBride sold 7000 shares. (Score:5, Informative)
* Robert Bench has three filings: 7000 shares, 5000 shares, and 4100 shares.
* Jeff Hunsaker sold 5000 shares at the beginning of June.
* Darl McBride sold 7000 shares just after the suit was filed.
That's millions of dollars [lwn.net] in stock sales [boosman.com]. Given that the stock price skyrocketed when they announced the lawsuit, and the executive stock dumping began shortly thereafter, what do you make of this situation?
Re:The end is near... (Score:5, Informative)
Time is running out for SCO (Score:5, Informative)
Time is running out for SCO. Check the scheduling order [groklaw.net]. We're past the stalling of pretrial discovery. We're past wondering if SCO has some surprise evidence. Discovery is over. Now things speed up. Expert reports are coming in now and end on September 22. On September 25, summary judgement motions start, and undoubtedly IBM will make some. Things can only get worse for SCO in the summary judgement phase, where some or all of SCO's case may be thrown out and IBM might win on some of their counterclaims. This whole thing could end in September.
If not, trial starts in February 2007.
Re:Can stock prices go negative? (Score:5, Informative)
I suppose, if a company's assets were negative - if the company was in major debt - and there was some way to force the shareholders of the company to pay the owed money, then yes, indeed, the stock could and likely would go negative.
Possibly unfortunately, though, there's no way that can happen - although I personally would be vastly amused if all the SCO stockholders were forced to pay IBM for owning part of such a doomed company, I suppose it would open up an incredible number of legal problems
Re:The title should read... (Score:4, Informative)
Purchase == liability (Score:5, Informative)
Liquidation is the only solution.
Re:bowl circler (Score:3, Informative)
When would you cover this one? There may be residual value at some point (office space, chairs etc). 20.5->0.25 or so would be my guess of maximal profit.
Book value on SCOX (assets minus liabilities, a measure of how over/undervalued a stock is) is 67 cents per share (adjusted for split) for the quarter ending 4/30/06, or a little over $14 million. It probably won't fall below .67/share.
What I find funny is that according to WSJ, there is one analyst still covering the stock with a buy rating. However, the analyst has not given any forward earnings estimates. Also shocking is just how shorted the stock is: 3.8 million shares, of only 15.1 million shares available to investors (21.09 million shares total outstanding). 25% of SCOX's public float is being shorted! And, if that isn't enough, look at this 8-K SEC filing:
I do not own SCOX or any of the companies involved in SCO litigation.
Re:Downward spiral? (Score:1, Informative)
and whats worse is some of the papers seem to be passing from IBM to Novell (and Vice Versa)
Re:SCO could have done well. (Score:2, Informative)
Except that The SCO Group (SCOX) isn't that company. It's the company that used to be know as Caldera who bought the UNIX business from OldSCO. From what I've gathered they wanted to use the huge amounts of VARs that used SCO UNIX and push Caldera as the OS of choice instead. Apparently that didn't pan out as planned (maybe because many of the VARs were rather small and couldn't change course without significant costs).
Then comes plan B into play: who can we sue?
That's nothing - look at GTW to see real scam (Score:4, Informative)
CEO, and long time scam artist, Lap Shun Hui has been dumping his free shares by the millions, and not properly reporting his sales. Apparently the guy is above the law.
There has been very little insider selling involved in the scox-scam.
Buying scox == buying lawsuits against you (Score:3, Informative)
These lawsuits are no problem for scox, because scox plans on going bankrupt. But, if IBM bought scox, IBM would inheret all the lawsuits.
Why do you think msft decided to sue by proxie?
Re:A big company crushing a smaller one... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Still have a long way to go (Score:2, Informative)
If you see the balance sheet of the SCO, their revenue peaked in 2003, the year it sued IBM and declined afterwards. Also its cash flow statement was positive only in the year 2003. Basically SCO is a dead snake tried to surrogate itself by suing IBM.
More at
Google Finance SCO Page [google.com]
SCO Finace Statements [google.com]
SCO's stock price - Jan 2000 - till date [yahoo.com]
Re:A big company crushing a smaller one... (Score:5, Informative)
LOL. That's what you're supposed to do. It's called discovery. You can't file a claim against someone without showing them the evidence you have against them regarding that claim. This enables them to mount a defense. Both SCO and IBM have asked for evidence as part of the discovery process.
On December 12, 2003, SCO was ordered by Judge Wells, "...to identify and state with specificity the source code(s) that SCO is claiming form the basis of their action against IBM". SCO claimed that they couldn't do this without access to IBM's code, and requested the entire source base to both AIX and Dynix including all versions and changes. SCO's motion was granted by Judge wells.
On March 18, 2005, IBM delivered to SCO everything they had requested. The 80 GB of code and a server machine to put it on was was delivered on time. SCO, then claimed that this information wasn't enough.
SCO has been objecting in one way or another to a judge's order for almost three years.
Who is holding up the trial again?