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Microsoft Acquires Winternals and Sysinternals 471 471

SJasperson writes "In a move that will be good for Redmond but may have consequences for the rest of us, Microsoft has acquired Winternals and Sysinternals. This gives them well-known developers Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell as well as dozens of well-loved and much-praised utilities, both commercial and freeware. Though Mark says on his blog that the Sysinternals site will remain 'for the time being,' this would be a good time to download the latest version of essential Windows tools like Process Explorer before they can go mysteriously missing or be locked up behind the wall of Windows Genuine Advantage."
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Microsoft Acquires Winternals and Sysinternals

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  • Re:Seriously? (Score:3, Informative)

    by 9x320 (987156) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @12:30PM (#15737435)
    Windows Genuine Advantage mistakes 20% of genuine XP operating systems as counterfeit. [guardian.co.uk] If you install the update, you have a 1 in 5 chance of kissing your operating system goodbye. The summary for installation says it will then "help you obtain a licensed copy of Windows."
  • by tepples (727027) <tepples&gmail,com> on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @12:31PM (#15737451) Homepage Journal
    Just what is wrong with Microsoft making sure pirates, who steal software, don't get to easily download and install other Microsoft software.

    The problem is that WGA enforcement sometimes blocks innocent users of ReactOS and other Wine-based software stacks.

  • by rootofevil (188401) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @12:38PM (#15737513) Homepage Journal
    Personally I have auto updates set to notify me when the download is complete and the files are ready to install. If you deselect the WGA option, you can then choose to never install it. Same goes for the windows update website.
  • by creepynut (933825) <teddy(slashdot)&teddybrown,ca> on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @12:50PM (#15737641) Homepage
    That works only for the Windows Genuine Advantage Notification one. Not the actual WGA itself.
  • by 0racle (667029) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @12:52PM (#15737655)
    No, it's not funny at all. Why would someone who spent time understanding something have to work for the company that made it? On top of that, few people at Microsoft would ever have to work with so many of the different parts of Windows to be able to be considered an expert in the internals of Windows. There are probably a tonne of people in MS that know a hell of a lot more about their part then he does, but have little to do with other parts.
  • Re:Seriously? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Jon Luckey (7563) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:02PM (#15737735)
    Do you not shop at stores that tag their clothes with shoplifting detectors? Get a clue. That shoplifting technology saves money for the honest among us.

    Do not go thinking that even that technology cannot be without drawbacks to legit customers.

    One case where I bought something, the cashier rang it up and put it in a bag. I got it home and discovered an antitheft tag still on the item. And it was the kind of tag that would wreck the item with dye if removed incorrectly. So I had to return to the store to get the tag removed. And this store was a fair distance away. That technology cost me money in gas and time.

    There could be an analogy made for WGA. Analysis of the strings in WGA code leads to the conclusion that WGA code can shut down a windows install that WGA thinks is invalid. If WGA is wrong (Microsoft? Bugs? Never!) then a legit copy of Windows may go inactive with a major hassle to get it working again. Even if the owner has the Certificate of Authority. I don't blame people for opting out.

  • Correction. (Score:2, Informative)

    by rowama (907743) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:03PM (#15737748)
    Microsoft will continue to meet all Winternals customer support agreements through their terms.

    was probably supposed to read

    Microsoft will continue to meet all Winternals customer support agreements, but on their terms.

    the same typo occured in several places.

    <bashful_grin>Just trying to be helpful.</bashful_grin>
  • Re:Someone (Score:3, Informative)

    by baadger (764884) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:09PM (#15737790)
    I'm downloading all 92 zip files now (with URLToys), thats all the tools and all the versions, when i'm done i'll rar them up and put a torrent somewhere ;-) I suppose I best check if we are allowed to redistribute the tools before I do so, I don't fancy any wrath from Microsoft.
  • by soldack (48581) <soldacker@nosPAM.yahoo.com> on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:17PM (#15737850) Homepage
    Check out http://www.osronline.com/ [osronline.com] . They have some similar utilities and are the place to go for windows device driver questions and debug. They are the folks that finally fixed much of the DDK documenation . I still have the mugs they gave away for finding doc errors.
    By the way, I highly recommend their classes. I have taken a bunch of them and I am pretty sure that these folks know windows internals better than any other organization...maybe even MS.
  • Re:Someone (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:19PM (#15737866)
    http://rapidsharing.com/download.php?id=D168800B [rapidsharing.com]

    Here is the source (there are some compliled in the mix) (.7z format 4 brownie pts ;)

    about 4MB don't forget to torrent if you have the bandwidth to share!

  • http://www.winternals.com/products/repairandrecove ry/locksmith.asp [winternals.com]

    what a surprise... Microsoft takes down the locksmith. Anyone have it for me?
    Thanks
  • Re:Someone (Score:5, Informative)

    by baadger (764884) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:25PM (#15737901)
    Complete list of the utility URL's -> here [dhcnetwork.com]
  • Re:Seriously? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Columcille (88542) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:28PM (#15737938) Homepage
    You need to read the article again. Here's the sentence right from the top:

    One in five computers labelled as counterfeit are running legitimate operating systems

    This does not mean that one in five computers are flagged as counterfeit. It means that of all the computers that are flagged as counterfeit, one in five are incorrectly flagged. No percentage is given as to how many computers are actually flagged so we have no idea what the overall ratio is. Please work on your reading skills before making claims like you did.
  • 404's on those links (Score:3, Informative)

    by amemily (462019) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:33PM (#15737989)
    Most of those links are 404'ed now.
  • Re:Someone (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:33PM (#15737990)
    http://wiki.dhcnetwork.com/utilities.txt [dhcnetwork.com] for the list of files.
  • by gregstoll (90319) <776wripc001.sneakemail@com> on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:36PM (#15738023) Homepage
    Take out the SourceCode and Utilities directories and they work OK.
  • Re:Someone (Score:2, Informative)

    by flink (18449) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:40PM (#15738061)
    You have to remove the "Utilities" portion of the path in all those URLs for them to work.

    e.g. http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Files/Hostna me.zip [sysinternals.com] --> http://www.sysinternals.com/Files/Hostname.zip [sysinternals.com]
  • by EXMSFT (935404) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @01:52PM (#15738153)
    That suit is already settled: http://www.winternals.com/Company/PressRelease90.a spx [winternals.com]
  • Re:Someone (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @02:28PM (#15738472)
    Those are all the .zip files. You're missing the ones that are .exe.
  • by 1u3hr (530656) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @02:29PM (#15738479)
    Oh, and if you absolutely MUST pack files together for a non-torrent reason, use something that is freely (in all senses) available to all people, not just to a select elite.

    "Select elite"?

    http://www.rarsoft.com/rar_add.htm [rarsoft.com]
    UnRAR for OS/2 Command line freeware OS/2 UnRAR.
    UnRAR for Mac OS X Command line freeware Mac OS X universal binary UnRAR.
    UnRAR for Mac OS X Command line freeware Mac OS X UnRAR.
    UnRAR for PowerPC Linux Command line freeware PowerPC Linux UnRAR.
    UnRAR for x64 Linux Command line freeware x64 Linux UnRAR.
    UnRAR for Familiar Linux Command line freeware ARM/iPAQ/Familiar Linux UnRAR.
    UnRAR for Solaris 8 Sparc Command line freeware Solaris 8 Sparc UnRAR...

    The UnRARs are completely free, and I have several free utilities that evidently use the dlls they also supply. (Eg, 7-Zip)

    Aside from the philosophy, RARs just are more suited to large and/or segmented files, Zip has been stretched to manage that, but RAR is just smoother. But Real Men use tgz, I suppose.

  • by Elektroschock (659467) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @02:30PM (#15738496)
    Now, there is still hope to get competition authorities involved to stop the merger or reach better licensing conditions. Take Article 81 and Article 82:


    Article 81 of the EC Treaty (ex Article 85)

          1. The following shall be prohibited as incompatible with the common market: all agreements between undertakings, decisions by associations of undertakings and concerted practices which may affect trade between Member States and which have as their object or effect the prevention, restriction or distortion of competition within the common market, and in particular those which:

                (a) directly or indirectly fix purchase or selling prices or any other trading conditions;

                (b) limit or control production, markets, technical development, or investment;

                (c) share markets or sources of supply;

                (d) apply dissimilar conditions to equivalent transactions with other trading parties, thereby placing them at a competitive disadvantage;

                (e) make the conclusion of contracts subject to acceptance by the other parties of supplementary obligations which, by their nature or according to commercial usage, have no connection with the subject of such contracts.
          2. Any agreements or decisions prohibited pursuant to this Article shall be automatically void.
          3. The provisions of paragraph 1 may, however, be declared inapplicable in the case of:

                - any agreement or category of agreements between undertakings;

                - any decision or category of decisions by associations of undertakings;

                - any concerted practice or category of concerted practices,

                which contributes to improving the production or distribution of goods or to promoting technical or economic progress, while allowing consumers a fair share of the resulting benefit, and which does not:

                (a) impose on the undertakings concerned restrictions which are not indispensable to the attainment of these objectives;

                (b) afford such undertakings the possibility of eliminating competition in respect of a substantial part of the products in question.


    Article 82 of the EC Treaty (ex Article 86)

    Any abuse by one or more undertakings of a dominant position within the common market or in a substantial part of it shall be prohibited as incompatible with the common market insofar as it may affect trade between Member States.

    Such abuse may, in particular, consist in:

    (a) directly or indirectly imposing unfair purchase or selling prices or other unfair trading conditions;

    (b) limiting production, markets or technical development to the prejudice of consumers;

    (c) applying dissimilar conditions to equivalent transactions with other trading parties, thereby placing them at a competitive disadvantage;

    (d) making the conclusion of contracts subject to acceptance by the other parties of supplementary obligations which, by their nature or according to commercial usage, have no connection with the subject of such contracts.


    All you have to do is file a complaint under Article 82 or 81 EC Treaty:

    European Commission
    Competition DG
    Antitrust Registry
    B-1049 Bruxelles


    Or just mail to COMP-MARKET-INFORMATION@cec.eu.int

    What you need to provide about yourself and your enterprise and how to write a complaint see here [europa.eu]
  • by the-amazing-blob (917722) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @02:33PM (#15738525) Journal
    Uploaded to megaupload. Sorry for the annoying ads that come with it. It's the fastest site to upload to I could find http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9M999M8L [megaupload.com] There may be a few repeats in there. I didn't check.
  • Re:Someone (Score:5, Informative)

    by kimvette (919543) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @02:38PM (#15738555) Homepage Journal
    In case you are a Windows user wondering about the easiest, quickest way to download the files and are not familiar with wget:

    Get wget from http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/wgetwin.html [interlog.com] (scan the binaries before installing and executing, of course)

    To download the files quickly and easily just copy & paste the filenames into a file (call it utilities.txt), preferably in a new directory (make it easy to ID the files)

    Go to the command line in that directory and type:

    wget -i utilities.txt

    This will download every file in the list to your current working directory.

    I suggest you do so ASAP because when Microsoft says that something will always be free, they cannot be trusted.
  • Re:Someone (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Psychopath (18031) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @03:01PM (#15738737) Homepage
    Torrent is available and seeding.

    http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3504780 [thepiratebay.org]

    Single torrent containing all the individiual zip files as downloaded today.
  • Re:Someone (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @03:30PM (#15738926)
    That's okay, someone [torrentspy.com] already did.
  • Re:Someone (Score:3, Informative)

    by doti (966971) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @03:35PM (#15738975) Homepage
    all the tools and all the versions


    You don't need to download all the versions.

    At least of ProcessExplorer (the only one I cared to download, as I don't even use windows, but who knows where I'll be working tomorrow..). From the ProcessExplorer page:

    Note that the zip files are identical, and Process Explorer runs on all Windows platforms.
  • by drinkypoo (153816) <martin.espinoza@gmail.com> on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @03:51PM (#15739092) Homepage Journal
    You don't need it. Get Hiren's Boot CD, which (among many other things) has a linux tool that resets NT passwords. (It's supposed to be able to set them, and not just zero them, but that didn't work last time I tried - which was many versions ago.) I think you can get the tool by itself on a floppy or two. Hiren's has copyrighted software on it, so you may have interest in finding the utility by itself.
  • May I suggest (Score:5, Informative)

    by arete (170676) <<areteslashdot2> <at> <xig.net>> on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @04:17PM (#15739291) Homepage
    If you're going to wget, may I suggest playing nice with rates, delays, and non-essential files:

    wget -w 2 --limit-rate=5k -m http://www.sysinternals.com/SysinternalsSiteMap.ht ml [sysinternals.com] -X /Video,/Chat,/Forum,/Blog

    A relatively reasonable 81MB and 553 files.

    And don't redistribute. As a software author, beyond it being illegal I consider it to be quite disrespectful to the authors if you were to redistribute these files in violation of their license. On the other hand, it certainly seems like a good idea to make a personal copy at this moment, and that certainly IS in accordance with their license.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @05:08PM (#15739625)
    Stop saying boxen..
    Stop saying boxen..
    STOP SAYING BOXEN !!!!! Aaaaaaaaaaargh.. its boxes !!!
  • by Lagged2Death (31596) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @05:26PM (#15739713)
    The excellent and GPL'ed 7-Zip [7-zip.org] can unpack RAR files. Is that better?
  • Re:Someone (Score:2, Informative)

    by lightbox (978095) <panther25&gmail,com> on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @06:39PM (#15740109)
    Torrent (not mine): http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3504780 [thepiratebay.org] Here you go folks, download away!
  • EULA: for comparison (Score:5, Informative)

    by Mitchell Mebane (594797) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @06:41PM (#15740114) Homepage Journal
    For comparison, here are the EULAs from two versions of Process Explorer. The new one is far more restrictive, and over *10 times* as long.

    Process Explorer 10.11 (old version):
    This software is provided "as is" and use of the software is at your own risk. Sysinternals disclaims any and all warranties, whether express, implied or statutory, including, without limitation, any implied warranties of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose or non-infringement of third-party rights. Sysinternals does not warrant that the software is free of defects.

    You are allowed to use software published by Sysinternals at home or at work without paying a commercial license fee provided that you downloaded the software yourself directly from Sysinternals, and:

    * Use the software on computers for which you are the primary user; or
    * Use the software on computers for which there is no primary user
    (e.g. servers, including Terminal Servers) and you are a full-time
    employee of the company that owns the computer; or
    * Use the software on computers within your residence

    A commercial license is required to use the software in any way not covered above, including for example:

    * Redistributing the software in any manner, including by computer
    media, a file server, an email attachment, etc.
    * Embedding the software in or linking it to another program
    * Use of the software for technical support on customer computers

    Sales of commercial licenses support Sysinternals product development and assure that this Web site continues to offer valuable, up-to-date tools. Established software companies redistribute these utilities and incorporate the code into their products because this offers the potential to save significant development time. Sysinternals commercial licenses are priced according to the complexity of the licensed code and its role in the target application. If you are interested in licensing Sysinternals tools or source code for redistribution or for inclusion with or as part of a software product, please contact licensing@sysinternals.com.

    10.2 (new version):
    Sysinternals - Information on Terms of Use

    ACCEPTANCE OF TERMS.
    The services that Sysinternals provides to you are subject to the following Terms of Use ("TOU"). Sysinternals reserves the right to update the TOU at any time without notice to you. The most current version of the TOU can be reviewed by clicking on the "Terms of Use" hypertext link located at the bottom of our Web pages.

    DESCRIPTION OF SERVICES.
    Sysinternals provides you with access to a variety of resources, including utilities, download areas, communication forums and information (collectively "Services"). The Services, including any updates, enhancements, and/or new features are subject to the TOU.

    PERSONAL AND NON-COMMERCIAL USE LIMITATION.
    Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from the Services.

    PRIVACY AND PROTECTION OF PERSONAL INFORMATION.
    See the Privacy Statement disclosures relating to the collection and use of your information.

    NOTICE SPECIFIC TO SOFTWARE AVAILABLE ON THIS WEB SITE.
    Any software that is made available to download from the Services ("Software") is the copyrighted work of Sysinternals and/or its suppliers. Use of the Software is governed by the terms of the end user license agreement, if any, which accompanies or is included with the Software ("License Agreement"). The Software is made available
  • Re:Someone (Score:3, Informative)

    by soliptic (665417) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @09:46PM (#15740875) Journal

    To download the files quickly and easily just copy & paste the filenames into a file

    Easier than that, assuming there is a webpage out there which links to them all: Firefox + DownThemAll :)
  • by Fëanáro (130986) on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @09:49PM (#15740883)
    Regarding the tools from SysInternals:
    Some old downloads do not seem to contain any EULA at all (just a readme.txt with some general disclaimers)

    more recent downloads (february 2006) contain a short and easily understandable EULA.

    All zip files I just downloaded from sysinternals have a change date of 18.7.2006 17:53 GMT+1 (yesterday) and contain a changed and much longer EULA, that also mentions that sysinternals is a part of microsoft now

    Old EULA:

    This software is provided "as is" and use of the software is at your own risk. Sysinternals disclaims any and all warranties, whether express, implied or statutory, including, without limitation, any implied warranties of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose or non-infringement of third-party rights. Sysinternals does not warrant that the software is free of defects.

    You are allowed to use software published by Sysinternals at home or at work without paying a commercial license fee provided that you downloaded the software yourself directly from Sysinternals, and:

    * Use the software on computers for which you are the primary user; or
    * Use the software on computers for which there is no primary user
    (e.g. servers, including Terminal Servers) and you are a full-time
    employee of the company that owns the computer; or
    * Use the software on computers within your residence

    A commercial license is required to use the software in any way not covered above, including for example:

    * Redistributing the software in any manner, including by computer
    media, a file server, an email attachment, etc.
    * Embedding the software in or linking it to another program
    * Use of the software for technical support on customer computers

    Sales of commercial licenses support Sysinternals product development and assure that this Web site continues to offer valuable, up-to-date tools. Established software companies redistribute these utilities and incorporate the code into their products because this offers the potential to save significant development time. Sysinternals commercial licenses are priced according to the complexity of the licensed code and its role in the target application. If you are interested in licensing Sysinternals tools or source code for redistribution or for inclusion with or as part of a software product, please contact licensing@sysinternals.com.

    NEW EULA:

    HEREIN. SYSINTERNALS AND/OR ITS RESPECTIVE SUPPLIERS MAY MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND/OR CHANGES IN THE PRODUCT(S) AND/OR THE PROGRAM(S) DESCRIBED HEREIN AT ANY TIME.

    NOTICES REGARDING SOFTWARE, DOCUMENTS AND SERVICES AVAILABLE ON THIS WEB SITE.
    IN NO EVENT SHALL SYSINTERNALS AND/OR ITS RESPECTIVE SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF SOFTWARE, DOCUMENTS, PROVISION OF OR FAILURE TO PROVIDE SERVICES, OR INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM THE SERVICES.

    MEMBER ACCOUNT, PASSWORD, AND SECURITY.
    If any of the Services requires you to open an account, you must complete the registration process by providing us with current, complete and accurate information as prompted by the applicable registration form. You also will choose a password and a user name. You are entirely responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your password and account. Furthermore, you are entirely responsible for any and all activities that occur under your account. You agree to notify Sysinternals immediately of any unauthorized use of your a

  • by quentin_quayle (868719) <quentin_quayleNO@SPAMyahoo.com> on Tuesday July 18, 2006 @10:30PM (#15741011)
    The torrrent referenced in the parent has a current set of the utilities. The last-changed dates are this month, at least on important ones such as Process Monitor and regmon. Also a new EULA.txt in each file as another poster mentioned.

    There is a new torrent now, pre-MS versions. http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3504886 [thepiratebay.org] See notes therein.

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