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What's In Your Inbox? 185

kenoa writes "In a recent blog entry, Gabor Cselle wrote about How Researchers are Reinventing the Mail Client. He highlights some ideas taken from research papers that will probably make it into the real world someday. From the article ' "[TaskMaster] All your emails, drafts, attachments, and bookmarks are mapped to "thrasks". Emails in the same thread are grouped automatically, but the user still has to assign other mails, links, and deadlines manually. [Bifrost] The idea here is that the people are the main indicators of whether an email is important. (...) Bifrost then reorganizes your inbox and displays your email in a number of predefined categories: Timely, VIP Platinum, VIP Gold, Personal, Small/Large distribution lists. [ReMail] Thread Arcs visualize relationships between email messages. Instead of wasting lots of space with a tree view that Thunderbird has, it displays the thread structure in a little image. (...) Contact Maps offer a different view of the address book: Senders from which you have received email are grouped by domain. Each person's name is shown with a different background color, depending on the time of the last email exchange." ' " Given that most of us probably read email essentially the same way as elm/pine did for us a decade ago, it sure would be swell to see updates to these metaphors.
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  • by remembertomorrow ( 959064 ) on Sunday July 09, 2006 @09:49AM (#15686697)

    if they reinvented mail protocols instead. :/

    Plug up the source rather than keep trying to pump the flood waters out.

  • by wonkobeeblebrox ( 983151 ) on Sunday July 09, 2006 @10:47AM (#15686870)
    I consider email to be a dying technology. Email is useful for contacting people whom you have an existing relationship with (and only if they have a stable, or several stable, email address). That's about it. For almost all other communications, RSS is a better solution. When spammers use email, email is being abused. When companies you do business with send you generic (ie: applicable to all customers) updates over email, email is being misused.
  • by Pedrito ( 94783 ) on Sunday July 09, 2006 @11:26AM (#15686969)
    It's not the e-mail client metaphor that's a problem, as others have pointed out. If there's a single problem with e-mail, I think we can all agree that it's SPAM. I mean, hey, that's great that people are trying out some new ideas for clients, but I think the current client metaphor works for 99% of the people out there. I find that Outlook combined with Google Desktop works great for my ability to organize my e-mails. I don't need anything beyond that.

    What I do need is FAR better SPAM control. I use SpamBayes, and it works fairly well, but it would be really nice if SPAM were handled at the server level (and I suppose, to some degree, it probably is by my ISP, but not nearly enough to take the entire load off of me).

    I look forward to the day Slashdot posts the article titled: "Solution to SPAM problem found." I'm not holding my breath, though.
  • by dazzawazza ( 131000 ) on Sunday July 09, 2006 @11:28AM (#15686977) Homepage
    I worked on a project (PS2/XBox/NGC/PC game) with a team of about 150. 20 or so were programmers and I was a lead programmer. I got about 200 emails a day. The company used MS Exchange and despite what people say it does a fairly good job.

    However with that volume of email it takes a long time to see which emails need an instant response and which can wait. When your in the middle of programming, getting 200 interruptions a day kills you.

    After looking for ways to improve things with tools, different clients, naming conventions and exchange rules.... I basically gave up on writing code and just read emails all day :-(

    Linear or threaded inboxes just dont cut it anymore. They work fine for me at home.. but at work I need some help.
  • Missing: meta-data (Score:3, Interesting)

    by gilroy ( 155262 ) on Sunday July 09, 2006 @12:34PM (#15687189) Homepage Journal
    The missing thing is the ability to easily add meta-data to emails, etc. I don't care what flag the sender sets; I should be able to one-key categorize something as important, not important, whatever. Likewise I want to be able to add stick-note like comments for myself but add them to other people's messages. I'd like to be able to categorize an email not just by the sender's name or email address, but by the hat the sender was wearing (i.e., friend, coworker, godparent of my kid, whatever).

        You can do some of this with folders but so far it seems pretty clunky to me.

            Of course, none of this seems poised to take over the world, considering how hard it is to get people just to use descriptive subject lines.
  • Re:what about TV? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Eternauta3k ( 680157 ) on Sunday July 09, 2006 @12:37PM (#15687197) Homepage Journal
    I don't have them now
  • by TheSpoom ( 715771 ) * <{ten.00mrebu} {ta} {todhsals}> on Sunday July 09, 2006 @01:05PM (#15687286) Homepage Journal
    Amen. Don't fix what isn't broken in the first place.

    I use Thunderbird [mozilla.com], and with a bit of spam blocking (combining Thunderbird's built-in adaptive filter with my ISP's filter, which is probably SpamAssassin) I'm able to track my email quite effectively without having my email client graph it out for me.

    I will say though that one of the cool features I use is email colourization, where email matching a certain filter is highlighted in a different colour in your inbox (accessible through the Message Filters section of Thunderbird). In the end, though, that's just a new adaptation of filtering rules that have been around since pine came out, or at least close to it.
  • by wonkobeeblebrox ( 983151 ) on Sunday July 09, 2006 @01:23PM (#15687336)
    Just becuase it is dying doesn't mean that it is going to end anytime soon. For example, Vice President Cheney said a few months agao that the Iraq insurgency was in its "final throes", and I don't see that dying down anytime in the foreseeable future....

    Email will never go away, but it is dying in that technically savvy system designers are moving away from email as the best/primary way to interact with customers. Customers may still want mass email today, but that will only last until their organizations adopt good RSS, integrated readers, which is starting to happen.

    I'll elaborate:
    1] if you were designing email today, you would not design it they way it currently is. Principally becuase of the spam issue, but also becuase things like distribution lists don't fit quite right into the email paradigm: for senders when email addresses are no longer active, for receivers having 40 billion unread emails when they return from vacations, etc. Add to that "HTML versus Text" versions and the filtering headaches that afflict everything but gmail....

    2] New techonologies, like RSS, that avoid the problems associated with email are seeing steady increased adoption. For me, I try to get everything I can out of my email box and into RSS: These include news alerts (the BBC, the Globe and Mail, the NY Times, the Washington Post, the USA Today) , NASA website articles / press releases, updates for programs that I regularly watch (PBS's NOW, NOVA, Frontline, etc), alerts from daily deal sites (woot, midnightbox, weeklycloseouts, etc), and more.

    3] RSS still leaves a "paper trail". I only posted in this thread originally because Safari informed me of a new /. entry via their RSS feed. I could click on that original RSS feed again right now.

    4] Personalized RSS is beginning to happen. Look at Travelocity's personalized RSS FareWatcherAndAlerting capability. That used to be over email and (for me) is now exclusively done over RSS

    Basically, any email which is not personalized directly to me I try to get out of my email box. When people start doing that en masse, then the techonology is dying (at least in-as-much-as the Iraq insurgency is in its "last throes"....)
  • by Sloppy ( 14984 ) on Sunday July 09, 2006 @01:54PM (#15687408) Homepage Journal
    Since the main principle doesn't change, the interaction cannot have drastical alterations.

    That's what I would think, too. But when I talk to people (particularly, corporate people) about their email, they say some really weird things. They think they need MS Outlook, because they think they need MS Exchange. If I tell them that Postscript is just as good as MS Exchange, they start using all these groupware buzzwords and concepts that are alien to me. Apparently, there is some kind of weird relationship between email and calendars(?) that I personally haven't used or seen, but that is part of some peoples' everyday lives.

    What I'm getting at, is that the main principle behind email has changed, or it's different for different people. The article seems really weird to me, because after my spam filter, my email volume is quite low and I just don't see how I would ever need a complex interface for reading 2 or 3 emails per day. But some people are getting hundreds per day, and it's not just mailing lists and spam -- it's their "real" email, stuff they actually need to read. Wow. I guess I sorta understand why they may need some special help to deal with it.

  • by dn15 ( 735502 ) on Sunday July 09, 2006 @02:56PM (#15687612)
    I also have to chime in -- this is exactly what happens to me daily. As part of my job I often migrate customer data from an old computer to a new one. Part of that often entails figuring out which mail client they used and integrating its data (saved mail, addresses) into the current software on their new machine. Quite frequently people *tell* me they use a specific mail app when in fact they don't, and they really just have their browser's home page set to Hotmail. They don't understand that there is any difference between webmail and a mail client on your computer.
  • by Deeper Thought ( 783866 ) on Sunday July 09, 2006 @03:10PM (#15687661)

    I see people managing their e-mails as if they are a collection to be kept for months or years. What a waste.

    An e-mail is nothing more than a conversation. (If it's a spec or document, put it on a Wiki, not in an e-mail.)

    I have 2 folders: Inbox and Deleted Items.

    When a message arrives, I read it and either

    1. delete it immediately,
    2. respond and delete it
    3. Leave it in my Inbox, indicating action I still need to take.

    This is 1-key filing -- the "Delete" key. It's super fast!

    I don't delete my "Deleted Items" -- I keep those in case I need to go find something -- which it turns out is pretty rare. When I do, I use "Find" or "Advanced Search" to look for the subject or author's name. It's not that hard or slow.

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