Sony Talks PS3 E-Distribution Initiative 148
simoniker writes "Talking about its PlayStation 3 E-Distribution Initiative, the company's intended Xbox Live Arcade 'killer', SCEA's John Hight has laid down a challenge to Microsoft, commenting that: 'Some of our [digitally distributed first-party] games, by virtue of their design and hardware demands, simply couldn't work on Xbox 360.'" More from the article: "The PlayStation Beyond submission site has been online since GDC 2006, when Sony's Phil Harrison announced its presence, and explains further of the concept: 'The E-Distribution Initiative (EDI) will provide an alternative publishing opportunity for the direct download of games and other content to the user. The EDI will be managed by Sony Computer Entertainment's development and studio organizations in North America, Europe, Japan and Asia (collectively known as SCE Worldwide Studios).'"
Is the PS3 vapor, still? (Score:2, Insightful)
Does the thing work, yet? Are there any games people have seen running? Are the graphics or the smarts or the complexity really beyond the 360? Is it all simulation for design, still, or is there a PS3 that basically works that people have seen, and is it stunning?
um... (Score:5, Insightful)
Well, duh. (Score:5, Insightful)
Translation (Score:3, Insightful)
Im pretty sure this is just refering to the motion sensing which sony built into the control in a late attempt to jump onto the ninetendo bandwagon. it doesnt say that the xbox is incapable of running the game due to lack of resources such as cpu, mem etc
so sure, these games couldnt work on the xbox, but will xbox (& wii) owners really be missing much....? (especially when you look at price comparisons/value for money)
Re:Cause of the Hardware Demands? (Score:4, Insightful)
This is great marketing here! He doesn't say the 360 isn't powerful enough or anything like that just "by virtue of their design and hardware demands, simply couldn't work on Xbox 360.". So they've designed our games to run on cell processors.. the 360 doesn't have a cell processor... so it just won't work on a 360. And the way they say it makes one assume the 360 doesn't have the power the PS3 does even though he said no such thing.
Here's my version
Killer app is no good if the hardware is dead! (Score:4, Insightful)
Maybe they should worry about the price of their hardware killing the market before going on sale first?
Re:Wooo (Score:5, Insightful)
Now from what I understand Sony will use basically the PC structure of on-line play via a ad-hoc type of network. This absolves Sony of significant infrastructure management but invites all kinds of problems in terms of quality control. Game developers are always touting about the fixed hardware set for consoles and how that helps them on maximizing performance and hitting deadlines because they can avoid the moving goal posts of PC gaming. I'm not sure how Sony will structure this network (no one does apparently) but you would think developers will be less than thrilled with implementing their own on-line connectivity solutions, ala Gamespy interfaces and the like.
As to your side note, yes there are decent games on the 360. Oblivion is quite good. You have a very narrow definition of what you care for apparently. You don't like sports games, racing games nor "console speed FPSes"[sic]. I'm not quite sure what you mean by FPS in that statement but then again, I'm not sure what genre you do like. It would be easier if you stated what games you do like instead of those you don't and I'm sure you could receive some more meaningful feedback (if that's what you're interested in).
I'm not sure what this fear is you describe with Microsoft killing innovation. Are you suggesting that Microsoft suppresses quality games by developers out of some desire to only release popular titles? If anything I think Microsoft has taken very large steps towards helping Indy developers and smaller publishers with their digital distribution over Xbox Live and their willingness to deliver bandwidth for free trial downloads of this content. Try a friend's 360 and test drive "Wik" from the Arcade. This is no main stream blockbuster title but it's innovative and fun. Big brother really isn't out to get you. Microsoft wants to make money and they do that by delivering products that the public wants to purchase. You want to blame them for delivering popular content, I applaud them. I also give them credit for establishing a medium and pricing venue that allows the smaller segment of the market to get a shot.
Don't you just hate... (Score:5, Insightful)
Geez... Like kids in kindergarten. Just release the frelling product and we'll see for ourselves.
Robert
Re:The PS3 is not Vapor, and yes I plan to buy one (Score:1, Insightful)
Given that it's probably not going to be The Platform, I'd rather not support the company that was at the heart of the whole rootkit fiasco. Sony's treated their customers like criminals in the past. Those who go back for more, in my opinion, are encouraging that type of behavior.
I'll be buying a Wii.
And stating that you have "the means to afford it" just makes it look like you don't actually have the means to afford a PS3 (and will be having your parents buy it for you) and that you don't understand the value of money. I can afford a PS3. I can afford plenty of things. Just because you can afford it, doesn't mean you should buy it. Tampons are priced to move but I have no use for them just as I have no use for a PS3.
And what do you mean by "I'm over Nintendo"?
Re:The PS3 is not Vapor, and yes I plan to buy one (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:The PS3 is not Vapor, and yes I plan to buy one (Score:0, Insightful)
Only a few people are angry at Sony due to the rootkit thing (which is really unlike anything that most other companies have done). Most are angry because Sony's ego has swelled beyond logic, the PS3 is hideously overpriced, and there are no compelling reasons to get one rather than an Xbox 360, a Wii, and a few games at the same time.
Furthermore, you say you're "over" Nintendo -- whatever the hell that's supposed to mean -- and the only argument you have to back that up is.. you've bought all of their previous hardware? Your logic isn't even connecting. Are Sony's shills so hard-pressed for something bad to say about Nintendo that they'll say you don't need a Wii just because you've bought hardware from Nintendo in the past? Give me a break.
Re:Sony's Second Mistake (Score:3, Insightful)
Seriously, we get it. Enough already.
Re:Don't you just hate... (Score:3, Insightful)
If you ask me, console vendors are all behaving like prescool kids, but the only people behaving less mature than them are vendor fanboys.
Grow the fscking up. There's no value in consoles other than what you really can do with them. Really, there's no value in software other than what you can do with it. It doesn't matten if you talk about Windows Longhorn/Vista, PS3 or anything. There's only the product and it's competition.
Robert
Re:Wooo (Score:2, Insightful)