Origami Feedback Mixed, says Samsung 121
Ben Camm-Jones writes "Citing a mixture of reactions from customers who bought its Q1 device, Samsung has said that the pre-launch teaser campaign run by Microsoft about the Origami project may have been misleading."
May have been? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:May have been? (Score:2)
Wait....that's been done.
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What I expected (Score:5, Funny)
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It looked good on paper....
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This thing is going to get Microsoft beaten to a pulp.
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Waste of bandwidth (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Waste of bandwidth (Score:5, Informative)
Weight was fine. I didn't find it too heavy at all. It even played WoW quite well. The digitizer was a little slow to react, but that was about it. I was VERY impressed, considering it's half the cost of tablet PC and provides far more functionality than a pocket pc. Exactly what I was looking for.
I think i'll buy one when the LED backlit version comes out.
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As to the Origami's, I am actually fairly interested. There is a model coming soon that is 800$, includes a GPS built in. I have been interested in a good car based GPS device for a long time and this might just fill the need ( plus satisfy my geek fetish side nicely ).
Re:Waste of bandwidth (Score:4, Insightful)
The advantage is in being able to draw diagrams in the midst of your notes.
Incidentally, I second the O.P. -- the handwriting recognition in Windows Tablet PC Edition is really great. I tried it on a full-size Tablet PC, of course, but it should be exactly the same for an Origami device
Re:Waste of bandwidth (Score:2)
Also, you can use a good bluetooth keyboard with this as well, so if you're going to be typing at a table or something, you can pull that out and use that instead. Also, the Q1 has a USB keyboard option that fits well in their carrying case, but I didn't get a chance to play with this configuration (I did use the Think O
Re:Waste of bandwidth (Score:2)
I was comparing this against the Compaq tc1100, which is probably closest in my opinion to functionality.
what the article says (Score:5, Informative)
"someone [with prior] understanding of Origami, [they have been] saying 'We expected this and expected that' and comparing specification and price with laptop computers," said Steel. But even though a laptop can deliver more, it comes at a price, Steel noted."
Re:what the article says (Score:3, Funny)
The price of paying less?
surprising (Score:5, Informative)
Any success at all for the Origami would have been a surprise. It was (is) much too small to be a PC in any context (especially with an anemic screensize, heck lots of tiny devices approach the resolution and quality of the Origami) and way too big to be a portable device like an mp3 or video player.
For those trying to make it PC-like, the device short-shrifted users on usability like keyboard functionality. For those wanting portable devices, the Origami was way overpowered and cumbersome (who the f*** wants to fire up Windows to play an mp3 or a video?!?).
In between someone must have envisioned a niche market -- there likely is one, it's just not very big, and not noteworthy beyond the demographic for which it might be useful (hospitals, shops, warehouse grocery stores, etc.).
The Origami wasn't that much different (IMO) from the notepad type portables, except it was lighter in features, but still heavy in the wallet requirements. Sometimes these devices seem to be brain farts -- "what if"s, and they get run up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes. Hats off to Microsoft for a clever attempt at "mystery" marketing the Origami. Sometimes the buying public has a clue before the marketers.
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Per this post [slashdot.org] earlier in the comments for this story:
"Weight was fine. I didn't find it too heavy at all. It even played WoW quite well. The digitizer was a little slow to react, but that was about it."
Sounds more to me you have a consumer group who might definit
Hype? NO WAY! (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:Hype? NO WAY! (Score:3, Interesting)
The issue was that the hype raised expectations higher than what an actual product could deliver. The buzz about Oragami was that it was going to be a revolution in por
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Re:Too expensive!!! (Score:5, Insightful)
rob.
Re:Too expensive!!! (Score:1)
I've been intrigued by the 770 but I don't know anyone that has one. What do you think of your 770? What do you primarily use it for? Wha
Re:Too expensive!!! (Score:1)
Movies work great when encoded down to a playable size (240x320 or so). The email client is a little shody and many use web based gmail. Battery is great and the sleep mode is very effective. The HCI is crap, you need the stylus for everything. Its role as a PDA is limited as it doesnt sync wit
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I'm looking for the diagram that detailed the 2 procs versus each other. The memory upgrade is assumed though and I have not seen any announcements.
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Please look here: http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1888
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Battery Life (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Battery Life (Score:5, Insightful)
Why? Your typical work day is what, 8 hours. Are you gonna be using the thing all day? Samsung's website says that the battery life of the Q1 should be about 3.5 hours. Even if you're using the thing half the time, that should be plenty. And it seems to me like the half would be high.
There are times when a longer battery would be really nice, like for plane rides and stuff, but for day to day operation, 3.5 hrs isn't low enough to be a deal breaker. I mean, laptops have battery lives of under that often, and I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone say they're
not useful.
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Yes, the typical work day is about 8 hours. However, fo
Origami project... (Score:5, Interesting)
My theory is that the whole Origami project teaser campaign was a tactical spolier campaign by Microsoft that didn't work out. I think they assumed that Apple would come out with some fancy new product on their 30th anniversay, and so timed the campaign to coincide with that to spoil, or at least taint, anything Apple did. But then Apple didn't launch anything, and Microsoft was left running a spolier campaign without anything to spoil. I bet if Apple had released a new product, Microsoft would have made a lot more noise.
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iPod Origami (Score:1)
Of course they forgot the hardware lock in (will it work with your Bose thingies?) - and more importantly they forgot the three clicks to my music part.
Smooth move Samsung? (Score:1)
Too impractical (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Too impractical (Score:4, Insightful)
Maybe it's just my age showing, but to me the word "portable" means any device that can more or less be moved easily from one building to another. All this means is that the unit must be self-contained and include some feature that makes it easier to carry (like a handle). What comes immediately to mind are the original Compaq computers that came in a case about three times the size of a lunch box. Because of this, anytime I see the word "portable" used in the description for a computing device, I immediately assume that it would require strength-training for several months just be be able to lug the thing around. It's a warning sign to me.
On the other hand, I believe the word "mobile" has the same meaning to me as your interpretation of "portable". I would expect mobile devices to either fit in my pocket, or clip to my belt in some way to make it easy to carry them without using my hands. I realize this all comes down to semantics, though.... Does anybody else feel the same?
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Mixed reviews (Score:5, Funny)
A mishandled teaser campaign and a duff product (Score:4, Insightful)
But it was the teaser campaign that really hurt the product. Trying to run a teaser campaign that would grasp the news agenda at the same time as the world's biggest trade show like CeBIT might have sounded good but it annoyed a lot of journalists. At the same time the hints we did get on features were so inflated that when the final product came out it was a big let down.
Teaser campaigns are notoriously difficult to pull off. Look at the Segway for example. 'Ginger'
I've got one (Score:5, Informative)
It's slow, it's heavier than you'd like, it gets really hot in use, it's fiddly to interact with, and it's not worth anything like the money. I know you should expect nothing else from first-generation hardware, but it really is almost entirely pointless for nearly everybody (it's absolutely perfect for what I need it for, but that's an extremely niche market, believe me, and if Pocket Internet Explorer on a PDA was anything more than a toy, I wouldn't need it at all).
The hype was extremely misguided - it's just a very small tablet PC, it was never going to set the world on fire. But that's neither here nor there - hype or no hype, my main criticism of it is that it's not even very good at what it's meant to do, never mind all the things people imagined it would do before it came out.
I should add (Score:5, Interesting)
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"He shoots,... and he misses"
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What about Opera for Windows Mobile [opera.com]?
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As hot as it gets, it might not set the world on fire, but it might set your hands ablaze.
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I'm going to need more clues. I can't begin to guess what job that's perfect for.
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Cant really say too much about the job, I'm afraid, it's an application that's at an early prototype stage, but read the posts I've made here and use your imagination (and you'll be miles off...).
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I know what job! (Score:3, Funny)
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Have you tried Opera for Pocket PC [opera.com]?
Dan East
Why do we continue these coming soon... ads (Score:3, Insightful)
Oragami was not a revolutionary product. It was is not even an xbox. What it is is a product that really doesn't exist, and the initial marketing was done for the benifit of the fer vendors who took a chance to manufacture it. Not that MS did not take that risk.
Re:Why do we continue these coming soon... ads (Score:1)
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There exist in the industry many different types of ads that seek to accomplish a variety of things for a variety of reasons. Building excitement and informing about the product are just two possibilities. Ads should not be a certain specific thing. They should be whatever works.
I call it duh (Score:4, Insightful)
It seems that the real problem was how badly Microsoft marketing managed the release of Origami, giving too little information at a time, which causes people to guesstimate wildly.
Despite this obvious rant, the only thing I liked in TFA is how I misread the sentence:
For a split second, I read:
What do you do with a toilet computer? How (and where) do you put the pen away????Nokia 770, anyone? (Score:2)
Product X feedback mixed, product Y feedback mixed (Score:3, Insightful)
Can anybody name a product launch without "mixed" feedback?
The article has slim to no details as to what the problems were, and I suspect this is only on slashdot because of the dig at microsoft.
Does anybody have any real info on the device?
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good for drawing (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm hoping someday touchscreens will be the standard, not the exception. Or, conversely, that drawing on a blank pad on your lap or on the table while looking at what you're drawing on separate screen will be considered some weird anomaly.
Any suggestions for hardware? I don't need a huge "canvas" but Palm is a little too small (often with flakey digitizers as well)
I'd love to see Apple get on this.
Re:good for drawing (Score:2)
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Most of my "work" is very cartoonish. Active Digitizers freak me the hell out as the mouse pointer starts moving when I haven't even touched the drawing surface.
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Missed Opportunity (Score:1)
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Misleading? Not as much as you would think. (Score:1)
Microsoft new marketting strategy, flood the media (Score:2)
I'm sick of hearing about the Origami. I was sick of it when it was just a rumor, then it was confirmed, then it was profiled, then it was abscent from E3, it's been 6 monthes and it's just basically vaporware. Jesus, this is what they WANT you to do. You already are overhyping it by just talking about it more and more.. Is it a game system, is it a handheld, is it just a small laptop.
I like 'em. (Score:2)
I recently got a used Sony Vaio U70, through work. The thing is essentially identical to these current Origami PCs. It has a 1ghz Pentium M processor, 512mb of RAM and a basic Intel 3D card. I get about hour and a hal
Re:MS Vaporware??? Never! (Score:3, Insightful)
By definition vaporware is never released
Re:MS Vaporware??? Never! (Score:3, Funny)
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I think vaporware, by definition, is never released.
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