Google, Submission AdSense and NoFollow Letdown 104
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from the still-watching-through-the-window dept.
John Battelle is reporting on his blog that word has leaked about a possible new API from Google that would allow sites to distribute AdSense earnings to individual members based on submissions or participation. From the article: "To toss a bit of cold water here, however, I've never seen UGC sites as the least bit driven by money. They are driven by pride, the desire to be first, reputation, whuffie. But dollars? That often screws it all up. I guess we'll get to see soon enough..." Relatedly many users are calling the 'nofollow' tag "Google's embarrassing mistake". Justin Mason is just one of many to take a look at the current status of nofollow and what may still be in store for that particular tool.
Re:THIRD! (Score:3, Insightful)
AdSense - ClickFraud and Google's 'Help' (Score:5, Insightful)
Google like to run anything on autopilot and pure technology - no human contact and no problems please. So this will be another Google technology I will ignore, because I can't stand the company and it's current attitude behind it. 'Don't be evil' should be renamed into 'simply ignore everyone'.
And you thought the karma whoring was bad... (Score:5, Insightful)
I prefer to *quietly* reward top posters on my sites by offering them paid gigs, but only after they've proven themselves.
Easier click fraud (Score:1, Insightful)
I know of sites that already do this. (Score:2, Insightful)
Imagine it at work @ Slashdot though: 5+ Funny == 5+ bucks.. I could get into that..
The Point of the NoFollow Attribute (Score:5, Insightful)
In this sense, it has probably succeeded. Sure a reduction in spam would have been nice, but this is still a nice first step. People always say spam is primarily an economic problem, so removing incentives is a good way to snuff it out in the long run.
You forgot the affiliate links in your post (Score:4, Insightful)
Nice Headline (Score:5, Insightful)
"Embarrassing Mistake?" (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:AdSense - ClickFraud and Google's 'Help' (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Nice Headline (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Nofollow - useful idea, applied incorrectly (Score:5, Insightful)
Comment spam that affects page rank is Google's problem. Comment spam that doesn't have anything to do with page rank is not Google's problem. Google provided a mechanism to bloggers to eliminate a nuisance caused by Google's page rank algorithm. At that point, comment spam is no longer motivated by Google's page rank algorithm.
This blog entry is nothing but sour grapes that Google didn't solve their problem for them.
Re:Nofollow - useful idea, applied incorrectly (Score:3, Insightful)
I don't believe this is the case. Comment spammers have a tendency to write scripts to bulk submit comments to particular locations across multiple hosts like /submit-comment.php that correspond to popular weblog software. You can't just "blast comment spams to the entire net", you need to target particular implementations. And when those implementations have nofollow, there's no point (at least for pagerank purposes).
Sure, the spammer might just target different weblog software instead, but that deters them from targeting you, and the developers of that weblog software have the opportunity of doing the same as you.
This was actually suggested [philringnalda.com] before Google implemented nofollow, but for some reason Google chose a crappy halfway measure.
Re:The Point of the NoFollow Attribute (Score:3, Insightful)
PageRank is the problem (Score:3, Insightful)