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Intern? Bloggers Need Not Apply 253

westlake writes "Short, funny, and to the point, a good read from the NYT about the realities of blogging in the corporate world." From the article: "Most experienced employees know: Thou Shalt Not Blab About the Company's Internal Business. But the line between what is public and what is private is increasingly fuzzy for young people comfortable with broadcasting nearly every aspect of their lives on the Web, posting pictures of their grandmother at graduation next to one of them eating whipped cream off a woman's belly. For them, shifting from a like-minded audience of peers to an intergenerational, hierarchical workplace can be jarring."
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Intern? Bloggers Need Not Apply

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 25, 2006 @06:35PM (#15405781)
    Don't use your real name on your blog, you idiot!
  • by Jim in Buffalo ( 939861 ) on Thursday May 25, 2006 @06:41PM (#15405804)
    I don't know if it's all that different from when I was first entering the workplace, but today's youngsters put it all out there. I don't know where kids get the idea that the only ones who would ever look at their MySpace blogs are people in their own age group.
  • Blackmail (Score:5, Insightful)

    by KefabiMe ( 730997 ) <garth@jhon[ ]com ['or.' in gap]> on Thursday May 25, 2006 @06:43PM (#15405823) Journal

    I determined a while ago that any private material that becomes public material can be used against you. In about 20 years I expect a metric shit-ton of blackmail material will be available for our future up-and-coming politicians. (Thank you MySpace for embarrassing our future politicians!)

    Of course, because I'm smart enough to keep private matters private, I'm automatically disqualified from politics. (Yay!)

    Hint: No matter how awesome that frat party was (I don't care *how* crazy those midgets where!), it's probably not a good idea to post those pics until your hangover is gone.

  • Why differentiate? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 25, 2006 @06:52PM (#15405876)
    What is it about the word "blog" that makes people stupid?

    "It is important that corporations make a choice as to what type of blogging they will allow," said Alfred C. Frawley III, director of the intellectual property practice group at the law firm Preti Flaherty in Portland, Me.

    Why does blogging need a different set of rules than any other medium for communication?

    If there is something your company doesn't want disclosed, have the lawyers draft up the paperwork. Just for kicks, we'll call it a "non-disclosure agreement", or NDA for short. If this NDA is broken, handle accordingly.

    You may be within your rights to decide what I am allowed to disclose, but what does it matter how I do it?

    Director of the intellectual property practice indeed. Just another moron with a big title that even he doesn't understand.

  • by megla ( 859600 ) on Thursday May 25, 2006 @06:59PM (#15405922)
    Anyone dumb enough to post their company's innermost secrets on their blog deserves exactly what they get.
    Similarly, any boss who fires an employee simply on the basis that they have a blog, regardless of content, deserves some sort of dressing down - although this is harder to achieve.

    People are too often pushed into very polarised positions on the matter, which helps no-one. There's plenty of acceptable middle ground, if only someone could bring reasonable discussion to the table.
  • by i am kman ( 972584 ) on Thursday May 25, 2006 @07:01PM (#15405934)
    Aaaahhh - damn. I knew I shouldn't use my real name when I registered. Oh god, what am I gonna do now - aaaahhhh.

    Actually, I think many people invent a psuedo-name and often don't realize when they've crossed the line from anonymous to identifiable when you look at the collection of what they post. The vastness of the internet makes people feel safe even when their standing naked in public.

    I've worked with 2 people who were fired over blogs they thought were quite anonymous, but it became quite clear who was writing them when you looked at the collection of posts. They both knew perfectly well if they were caught they'd be fired (and they should've been), but they also felt quite anonymous since they didn't use their 'real names. It's ALOT like folks that post 'anonymous' comments on stock boards.
  • by Skim123 ( 3322 ) on Thursday May 25, 2006 @07:22PM (#15406037) Homepage
    Eh, but if everyone in the current generation does it, what choice will employers have in the future? While I agree with your premise, I can't help but think such statements are eerily similar to the admonishons from parents in the 50s - listening to that Elvis Presley music is going to rot your brain and loosen your morals!
  • by lottameez ( 816335 ) on Thursday May 25, 2006 @07:49PM (#15406166)
    I disagree. You should use your real name 'cause it should keep you from saying something too stupid. Sooner or later you'll get outed anyways, and then you'll be wishing you hadn't bragged about doin' the football player's wife.

    Also, written content never dies, it just defines you for life. Ask any politician (that can write).
  • by Castar ( 67188 ) on Thursday May 25, 2006 @08:49PM (#15406418)
    In fact, I hope that the publishing of things like this helps to open our society a bit farther. The fact of the matter is that most people behave in "abnormal" ways, but keep it a secret. With the internet, and the publication of various things like this (college-age risky behavior, kinky fetishes, weakness for whipped cream) maybe we can finally recognize that *everyone* is a little bit weird, and the tyranny of the majority will cease to be such a factor in society.
  • Well, duh (Score:3, Insightful)

    by buss_error ( 142273 ) on Thursday May 25, 2006 @09:44PM (#15406718) Homepage Journal
    I'm amazed at the number of people that come to interviews and think I haven't run a search on their name through Google or other search engines.

    While I most likely wouldn't call anyone to an interview whose postings show indescretion, I often think of how I'd just like to see their face when I place a copy of their search results in front of them.

    Why do you think I post under a 'nym?

  • Re:Hospitals (Score:2, Insightful)

    by cubicledrone ( 681598 ) on Thursday May 25, 2006 @10:33PM (#15406956)
    as in the unfortunate case of nurses

    Yes, it's unfortunate that people who dedicate their lives to the care of the sick and injured can't be fired by some blow-dried corporate fuck because his golf game got canceled.

  • too much fuss (Score:3, Insightful)

    by l3v1 ( 787564 ) on Friday May 26, 2006 @07:34AM (#15408544)
    [sarcastic half-joking mode on]

    Saying, writing, opening up to the wide audience your stupidity, wierdness, incompetence, intolerance, ignorance, unability to filter private information from useless public stuff, bad spelling, lack of imagination, lack of social life, bad or lacking love life, low skills in problem solving, bad opinions about certain companies, lacking technical skills, etc. etc. and you'd still expect a decent company to hire you ?

    Thing is, on this planet, you can always be certain that there does indeed exist at least one person that is dumber than you. So, all you have to do is find that person and convince him/her to hire you.

    If you can't imagine that some things in your life should be kept private (I'm not talking about kinky habits or any disgusting behavior and such, just simple things) then I can't imagine you working with or for me.

  • Re:Hospitals (Score:3, Insightful)

    by GeckoX ( 259575 ) on Friday May 26, 2006 @10:11AM (#15409441)
    This and other posts discussing corporate culture, but using the US medical & hospital system as an example...OH MY GOD. Could you pick a WORSE example? Or are you begging for another endless argument about the problems with a private madical system in the first place?

    All I will say is THANK GOD I'm a canadian so I don't even have to THINK of this kind of bullshit. Primary medical care is a basic need, and ONLY the best people for the job should be hired and retained. There is NO logical argument to the contrary here, unless you don't value life.

    (Minor troll, but true nonetheless: It's quite apparent that the US as an entity does NOT value life whatsoever)
  • Re:Well, duh (Score:3, Insightful)

    by SatanicPuppy ( 611928 ) * <Satanicpuppy.gmail@com> on Friday May 26, 2006 @11:00AM (#15409789) Journal
    Heh yea, my name is really common, and seems to be shared by a lot of really staid people so my few exploits under my real name don't show up against the general backdrop.

    If a prospective employer knew enough to look in the right place, it would be a different story. I'm not ashamed to own up to anything I've put online, but I don't necesarrily want to have a person who doesn't know me well forming a snap judgement on a random sampling of material.
  • Re:Blackmail (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Cervantes ( 612861 ) on Friday May 26, 2006 @11:03AM (#15409810) Journal
    You appear to have forgotten the history of our current beloved leader.

    Of course he has. He's a double-plus Good Citizen! Bringing up any past history would just be trying to tear down your President in a Time of War. What's wrong with you? Don't you know how that would affect the morale of the troops? Do you want us to lose the War on Something? Come on, jbrader, are you supporting our troops, or are you with the terrorists?

    What's sad is that several years ago, I could expect a few Funny mods for this... now all I'll get is some people sadly shaking their heads, and a few "Hey, don't quote Fox News without permission!" comments.
  • Re:Hospitals (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Bob Uhl ( 30977 ) on Friday May 26, 2006 @12:05PM (#15410249)
    Food and clothing are basic needs to, yet the State shouldn't be providing them. The State should not be in the business of satisfying basic needs, period: its sole role is to punish those who violate the rights of others.

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