Peter Moore Talks PS3, Wii, Portable 360 132
kukyfrope writes "Peter Moore recently led an intimate round-table discussion at E3 where journalists were allowed to pluck his brain on current industry issues. His comments cover PS3's high-price announcement, downplay rumors surrounding a portable Xbox, and actually admits he would like a Wii! 'Look, it's not partisan; I love what Nintendo is doing. They're in a different space.'"
With enemies like these, who needs friends? (Score:3, Interesting)
With enemies like these, who needs friends? [planetgamecube.com]
Re:With enemies like these, who needs friends? (Score:3, Interesting)
This is politics 101. You don't bash the people who have no chance of winning. You compliment them for their pluck, their uniqueness and their creativity. If later on it looks like they have a chance, you can bash them then.
The reason: You look like a magnanimous good guy. Some of the good underdog vibes actually rub off on you. You're humanized.
You risk little, because you know this guy is no competition anyway.
Hell, people are talking about an Xbox _and_ a
Re:With enemies like these, who needs friends? (Score:2)
Then they're not paying attention.
As a business, Nintendo won the last round. The Wii hasn't even been released yet and the public anticipation for it even from non-Nintendo game fans grows with each passing week.
Microsoft might be playing the nice guy now, but if they don't consider a high profile, unique and fun experience, with a lower price tag, higher set of quality launch titles, a fully compatible back catalo
Re:With enemies like these, who needs friends? (Score:2)
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Didn't RTFA (Score:1, Insightful)
Learn to write a summary. Sheesh!
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Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:2)
Your comment is highly incorrect.
I don't know who he is (well, I do now... but I will forget (again)) but I am interested in any interviews with industry insiders discussing the future of console gaming.
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:2)
You claim to be interested in interviews with industry insiders.
There is no possible way that you don't know who Peter Moore is.
Not only is he the current head of the Xbox division at Microsoft, but previously he was the COO in charge of video game operations for Sega North America.
A Google search for 'Peter Moore Xbox' has 2.1 million results.
A Google search for 'Shigeru Miyamoto Nintendo' has 1.3 million results.
He's a big deal. I'm gue
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:2)
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You are not kidding - this must be some sort of record. Shit man, you could have designed and built a wii yourself if you harnessed the time you spent commenting...
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Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:1, Insightful)
I don't know the name of the 360 project head, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't care what he has to say about consoles.
Sorry, console fanboy, but not knowing Peter
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:5, Insightful)
The difference is as plain as "Some homeless guy comments on the next-gen consoles" and "Head of the 360 gives his take on next-gen consoles". Even if I don't know who he is, at least he can give more insight than some schmuck off the street. I know the position "head of 360 devlopment" or whatever, but couldn't give a crap less about the name of the person in the position. That doesn't mean I'm not interested in the industry.
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:1)
I do admit we don't see that very often...
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:2)
When you call someone an idiot through a written form of communication, you probably should have better grammar than a first grader. I swear I'm not a grammar Nazi, but I've seen more than enough instances of "your a idiot" than I can stand. I guess that's what I get for playing Counter-Strike.
is a microsoft exec. do a quick google search, god (Score:5, Informative)
Moore holds a bachelor's degree from Keele University, England, and a master's degree from California State University, Long Beach.
After working for Patrick USA, the U.S. subsidiary of the popular French sportswear company, and then Reebok, Peter Moore rose to prominence at Sega, being a heavy figure in the company's North American operations during the Dreamcast era. Moore played a pivotal role in the company's decision to change its business strategy to become a platform-agnostic software publisher. At the time of leaving Moore was president and COO of SEGA of America.
Microsoft hired Moore in 2003 to join the Xbox project, where he has been ever since.
Peter Moore has shown off his Halo 2 and Grand Theft Auto 4 tattoos when announcing the games. Both tattoos are quite real as shown in a GearLive interview.
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Grammar Nazi side note: the comma at the end is ambiguous. Is it just an exasperated exclamation, or are you referring to parent poster as god?
Bonus to any other Grammar Nazis who can point out the subtle reason you can tell that it is the former case.
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Wow. It's one thing to drink the Redmond Kool-Aid, but to get tattooed to show your devotion to evil? That's just sad.
Re:is a microsoft exec. do a quick google search, (Score:2)
Sort of like this guy? [sfon.tv]
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Re:is a microsoft exec. do a quick google search, (Score:2)
The time you spent doing a quick Google search, and the time everyone else who didn't know who Moore is spent doing the same, could have been saved if the submitter or the editor has simply put the two words "Microsoft exec" in the story capsule.
Given how many Slashdotters there are, that's cumulatively hours and hours of lost productivity. Thanks, Slashdot.
Re:is a microsoft exec. do a quick google search, (Score:2)
Woo! A fellow Keeley!
Not that it's going to make me rush out and buy a 360...
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:2)
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/pmoore/de f ault.mspx [microsoft.com]
If you don't care, why post? The article is written for those people who do care and are interested in the area. If they don't know, it's easy to look up. Learn to either read articles that interest you, or don't comment. If it's interesting, then click the link; a su
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:2)
What: Have user do google search for "Peter Moore"
Cost: (Submit to Google for "Peter Moore" (assuming most efficient use, i.e. not going to Google home page first) + Google Processor time to fulfill query + whole page of results transfered back + users time to actually do this)
Or he could just RTFA
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:1)
I think he's got a legitimate gripe; the person who wrote the summary foolishly assumed that most or all readers would know who Peter Moore is. It'd work with Mother Theresa, but not with some exec no one has heard about (and unless they just decapitated their family and drank their blood, domintating world news for a week, it's probabl
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:2)
I certainly didn't know who Peter Moore was either, however the summary makes it clear he's an important person in the first sentance. To find out who he was and why he was important I read the article; IMO the OP should have done the same.
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:1, Offtopic)
Wait, this is slashdot, who am I kidding no one reads the article.
Re:Didn't RTFA (Score:2)
Exactly, and that's probably why the parent post was modded insightful.
Hmm... lets see. (Score:2)
A former very high ranking Sega executive who worked on the Dreamcast and was apart of the group who wanted to get Sega out of the hardware business
He's virtually the Xbox/Xbox360's Reggie Fils-Aime (if you don't know who this is so soon after E3 you're in the wrong section of Slashdot)
He's the guy that showed off the Halo 2 and GTA4 tattoos as announcements (anyone claiming to be a gamer has at least 'heard of' this)
He has more achievements than this but these are his video gaming highligh
Kudos for trying? (Score:5, Insightful)
Look I was there when Iwata-san pulled out that thing [the Wii]. I was there in the front row in Tokyo... and I said [to myself] "You've got to give 'em kudos for trying."
Is it just me, or does he come off as a really egotistical jackass in that line? You have to give them kudos for trying? We'll see if he can maintain that smarmy attitude when the Wii wipes the floor with the 360 in total sales.
Wii works with GameCube controllers (Score:3, Insightful)
the Wii will provide you with some amazing games but you'll still need our system to play most of the games you already like.
Last time I checked, Super Smash Bros. Brawl will work with GameCube controllers, and it will work with Nintendo's new Wii-specific Dual Shock clone. Besides, doesn't Nintendo have the "games you already like" market locked up with Virtual Console?
Wii classic controller == Dual Shock (Score:1)
The Super NES controller didn't have dual analog sticks down and inward of the +Control Pad and face buttons, nor did it have two extra shoulder buttons.
Re:Kudos for trying? (Score:3, Interesting)
I think its great they are trying a new controller as the basic control pad hasn't had any major changes since the original Nintendo. There have been some changes in shape, some extra buttons, vibrating, etc but nothing really revolutionary (more evolutionary) Though motion/positioning control systems have been produced before, its never been as a prima
Your arrogant (Score:2)
We also dont' know how the lack of hd will affect people's perception ofthe console. So claiming that it will wipe the floor with the 360 is arrogance itself.
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Consoles (Score:3, Insightful)
I have never rushed into a high priced console. The first console I purchased myself was a PSX when it was either $99 or $129...the next one was a launch system, the Dreamcast, with the always friendly price point of $199. I eventually bought a used PS2 from a friend at work for $150. This include the broadband adapter, at least two (maybe three) controllers, 5 or 6 games (two of which I sold to make back almost $30 of my money), a memory card, and one of the adapters to allow for more then two people to play.
Now, if the Wii comes in at $249 or less, I can all but guarantee it will be purchased at launch. I have always thought Nintendo had some great games and believe their consoles are one of the best (if not the best) for parties. I mean even regular Mario games can have some party fun, but with Mario Party and Smash Brothers...not to mention those moments of fun that were Dr. Mario on the N64...you really have to hand it to Nintendo.
Re:Consoles (Score:2)
It's an old rhetorical strategy: act like Nintendo is so beneath your notice as a competitor that you can afford to indulge them. The way Sony and Microsoft see it, they're currently regarded as the forerunners in this generation, with Wii retaining Nintendo's "kiddie" reputation among hardcore gamers. So they take pains to reinforce that perception: they paint Wee as a fun toy, but not as real competi
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Sony's big fear (Score:2)
I think that's Sony's fear, and it's quite justified.
The GameCube was my second console after the PS2. I bought many more games for PS2 than for GameCube. However, I'm not touc
What a salesman (Score:3, Insightful)
Desperately Trying To Appear Hip And Relevant (Score:1, Interesting)
Isn't it time for Microsoft to hire people who aren't fucking morons to run their Xbox stuff?
Peter needs to answer the real questions console players want to know:
1) The news that the HD protection bit means that all PS3 support HD/1080p BluRay movies right out of the box for both the 499 and 599 versions. The 360 does not support 1080p and forces you to buy a oh so popular console item 'the add on'
Re:Desperately Trying To Appear Hip And Relevant (Score:4, Interesting)
2) By BC i'm going to hazard a guess you mean background content updates for Xbox Live? It is still in the works and coming eventually, yeah its been delayed a bunch but it doesnt seem relevant to this topic.
3) PGR3 looks pretty good to me when i've played it for several hours, not sure which version you are looking at. When you compare it to actual consoles that are out there (Gamecube and PS2), sure does look a lot better. But maybe you are comparing it to "coming soon" consoles?
4) I've heard of overheating but not of some massive defects, wouldn't this be in some of the regular gaming news sites if there were (IGN, Gamespy etc)?
5) Xbox Live has always been different than what Sony and Nintendo have been doing in the online arena (which is a whole lot of nothing atm). Sony's service probably won't have the same functionality as Xbox Live - which will now run cross-platform gaming with Windows gamers (big plus), have same tag and friends list across platforms, and you know that every game that you buy that is Live-enabled - which I think all 360 games are required to have at least friends list functionality included - will work in the same fashion and work well. Without an integrated system, if you leave it up to each publisher it will be a mess and not nearly as useful as what Microsoft has come up with. This is one area where I think Microsoft has been kicking the tail of Sony and Nintendo - people want multiplayer gaming, co-op experiences, and also love earning "achievements" (just look at BF2's popular badge system which is why many still play almost a year after release).
6) Expect to see the Core version dropped this fall and price drop on the premium version (just my strong theory and that of many gaming mags). Are you still whining about background content or is BC something else? Please don't use acronyms that aren't clearly defined by context. Thanks.
Yeah, so PS2 still sells a lot - b/c you can get one for $100 now and it has a bazillion games. Also, what would the 360's sell numbers have been if they actually had millions in stock on store shelves instead of there being constant supply shortages?
And oh yeah, if you're going to rant at least have the courtesy to login instead of being a typical AC (Anonymous Coward). And a note, i'm planning on buying a Nintendo Wii first and foremost so i'm not a Microsoft Fanboy. I currently own a Gamecube and Xbox and played a PS2 for about a year before I wanted to claw my eyes out from the total lack of anti-aliasing capabilities on that console.
Re:Desperately Trying To Appear Hip And Relevant (Score:2)
Darn, guess me and several of my friends count as "no console owners" since we each own 2 or more consoles and all are also avid windows gamers who wish we could play cross-platform with those console gamers who (like you apparently) solely play consoles. Sometimes a keyboard and mouse feel like the best control scheme and other times I love control pads.
As far as $50 a year not being worth it, I think it is or else I wouldn't pay for it. Hav
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IGN actually has reported this. Apparently darn near every Xbox 360 at the IGN offices has failed. Unfortunately, it's an insider article so I can't directly link. Apparently it is Roundtable 159.
That said, maybe IGN is a bad place for Xbox 360 for some reason, but either way it has been reported.
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Re:Desperately Trying To Appear Hip And Relevant (Score:2)
Xbox Live has always been different than what Sony and Nintendo have been doing in the online arena (which is a whole lot of nothing atm). Sony's service probably won't have the same functionality as Xbox Live - which will now run cross-platform gaming with Windows gamers (big plus)
That sounds kind of neat, until you start getting your ass severly owned by mouse-toting PC gamers. In fact it makes the console's control scheme shortcomings g
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Halo 2 for Xbox has an Aimbot (Score:1)
In the PC gaming world, we call this cheating. In the Xbox world, it's a feature. Go figure.
Re:Desperately Trying To Appear Hip And Relevant (Score:1)
so will you ever explain you love affair with the PS3?
Do yours (Score:2)
The first part is true as far as the spec goes, but does not really say if the final PS3 will in fact do 1080p over component...
But that aside what you are missing is that true 1080p displays can reassemble 1080p from 1080i signals, due to 1080i having a higher framerate than 1080p.
So even if the console may not deliver a movie at 1080i (games will still be able to do 1080p no matter what) if I choo
Re:Desperately Trying To Appear Hip And Relevant (Score:2)
Glad to see you back at it! Keep trollin brother!
Re:Desperately Trying To Appear Hip And Relevant (Score:2)
Because the core 360 package is just as upgradeable at the premium package, you should be using $299 as the base price.
Estimates for the price of the HD-DVD drive add-on I've heard are around $200. So $299+$200 = $499 for a 360 with HD-DVD capabilities. That's competitive with standalone HD-DVD players out there, plus you get a next-gen gaming system. Plus you get free
Pot calling the kettle black (Score:5, Insightful)
This seems like something Iwata should be saying in regards to the Xbox losing Microsoft 4 billion dollars.
Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:2)
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:4, Insightful)
I've had loads of different games machines over the years and with the exception of the Amega 500 (which was when i was like 6 and I was also pretty much that excited about my transformer and a toy car aswell) I don't think I've ever wanted games machine
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:2)
Oh, it is:
The WiiiiIIIIiiiiiiiIIiiiiii is in a space where people from all walks want one and can propably afford it.
The PS3 and 360 are in a space where people with $5k TVs want them and can afford them.
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:1)
360s are more than likely for people who own $3K TVs
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:5, Interesting)
As long as Sony & MS can convince everybody that the Wii is for kids and non-gamers, then they'll keep the genres that appeal to the hardcore exclusively their consoles. However, I think the day that some smart developer thinks of how to use the Wii controller for a first person shooter is the day that console FPS games like Halo become irrelevant.
The only games that can't migrate to the Wii are games that depend on having pretty, pretty graphics for much of their appeal, like the mainline Final Fantasy games or games like Shadow of the Colossus. The Wii isn't even trying for graphics success.
The Wii will change forever the face of console gaming. I can't wait for the next generation when the Wii's control features get married to the graphics power of the current generation.
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:2)
What an odd comment... while both games look great for what they are, FF is popular for its turn-based combat, and SotC is popular for its incredibly engaging storyline and art direction. Why can't those go to the Wii? (I admit I cannot see how you would play SotC with that remote-wand...)
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:2)
I think you're the first person I've ever met to claim that the combat system is why people play Final Fantasy. People play Final Fantasy games typically for the storyline and the visuals, and ever since FF7 (or arguably
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:1)
Resident Evil 4 for the Gamecube beat out all XBox and PS2 games for Best Graphics.
http://bestof.ign.com/2005/overall/13.html [ign.com]
So obviously coders who know what they are doing can make Cube games look great, so why not the Wii?
The problem with what Sony and Microsoft are doing is that they are pushing console technology to be upgraded too quickly. Like the computer industry, rapidly impro
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:3, Informative)
That's amusing, because if you're impressed with the graphics of PS2 games, you must be fairly easily impressed. I can't think of a single PS2 game that pushed the envelope in terms of graphics, whereas I can list a dozen or more each from the Gamecube and XBox libraries.
The Gamecube hardware is far superior to that of the PS2, no matter how much Sony kool-aid you've been drinking.
--Jeremy
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:3, Informative)
there will be at least 2 at launch: Red Steel and Metroid.
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Wii "light-gun" attachment (Score:1)
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/10/e3-the-wii-zapp
It looks like a light gun with the remote in the front part and the nunchuck in the handle. (Though some ppl are saying the nunchuck is too large to fit?)
It looks really sweet.
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:1)
the only reason the wii can't have a game like shadow of the colossus is because sony makes it. the gamecube has the graphics capabilities to take on the PS2 and the wii has some potential for some very sweet graphics. there is no reason why it shouldn't be able to pull out beautiful looking games. it's al
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:2)
Nintendo doesn't compete in the same space as Nintendo and Sony. They're trying to DO something with their games to make them fun; they don't just throw graphics at you and hope something sticks. They rely on good franchises, and they publish easy to play, fun games. Everyone can play Mario Party or Mario Cart, even if they can't play Halo. This isn't a difference be
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Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:2)
unless you mean "graphics better than previous consoles but not as good as high end PCs ('super-hardcore')" then this 'hardcore' stuff is just more marketing BS.
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But yeah, you go Xbox, you're freakin' hardcore man. One tough hombre. HARDCORE.
Does sound silly, huh?
Re:Wii is in a "different space"? (Score:2)
Well they will be; the Wiiiiiiiiiiii! will be in my living room, the other two won't.
Different space?? (Score:2, Insightful)
Moore must be shaking in his boots... (Score:5, Insightful)
The Wii could conceivably cost half as much as the 360 Premium Package, and Nintendo has announced a Wii title in nearly all (or maybe all?) of its major franchises. If I were Peter Moore, I'd be scared too.
Moore's trying to create a "Wii + 360 > PS3" equation in people's minds, and I'm not saying he's wrong, but I don't think that he'd be saying anything positive about Nintendo or the Wii if he thought that the Xbox 360 could become the #1 new console in its own right.
After this year's E3, I've decided that I'll be purchasing a Wii in 2007 when a lot of the non-launch games have come out, and that I just don't care about what the 360 has to offer for the amount of money I have to spend on one, especially since I can already do all of that media center stuff on my PC. There you have it--Microsoft lost at least one potential 360 customer (myself) after E3 2006. How many more people must be out there that have feelings similar to my own?
People like me are the reason Peter Moore is complementing the Wii. He wants me, and everybody like me, to get the 360 by creating the illusion that there's a copasetic relationship between the Wii and 360 just because they're not made by Sony. However, just because I can get a Wii and 360 for roughly the price of a PS3 doesn't mean that I should buy an entire other console just because I haven't blown $600 on hardware.
Some people are saying that Nintendo isn't trying to compete with MS and Sony since they've taken such a different approach to their new console, but honestly, I think that Nintendo has become more competitive than ever. The Wii is small, backwards-compatible, online-ready, much cheaper than the 360 and PS3, and most importantly, it's unique and inspired. Hats off to Nintendo for truly bringing a revolution to console gaming.
Re:Moore must be shaking in his boots... (Score:1)
He wants me, and everybody like me, to get the 360 by creating the illusion that there's a copasetic relationship between the Wii and 360 just because they're not made by Sony. However, just because I can get a Wii and 360 for roughly the price of a PS3 doesn't mean that I should buy an entire other console just because I haven't blown $600 on hardware.
Indeed. You could get two consoles for $600 but I'd prefer getting one, extra controllers, a memory card or whate
Re:Moore must be shaking in his boots... (Score:1)
Of course, how could someone possibly admire other people doing interesting things in their field. I mean you would never hear someone from Ferrari say that Land Rover makes nice cars, would you ? And that if you're interested in both driving fast and going off-road you should get an Enzo and a Range Rover ?
The XBox 360 and Wii have a different target audience. In t
Re:Moore must be shaking in his boots... (Score:1)
What did Iwata-san pull out? (Score:1, Redundant)
[insert joke here]
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MS must be shaking in their boots... (Score:1)
The Wii could conceivably cost half as much as the 360 Premium Package, and Nintendo has announced a Wii title in nearly all (or maybe all?) of its major franchises. If I were Peter Moore, I'd be scared too.
Moore's trying to create a "Wii + 360 > PS3" equation in people's minds, and I'm not saying he's wrong, but I don't think that he'd be saying anything posi
Re:MS must be shaking in their boots... (Score:1)
Re:Microsoft's Strategy (Score:2)