Free Nationwide Wireless Internet Access? 350
LiquidEdge writes "ISP-Planet is reporting that startup M2Z wants to offer 95% of America free wireless Internet access using the 20Mhz frequency allocation. They're backed by Kleiner Perkins, one of the most successful VC firms in history, and being started by the guy who built the @Home network and a former FCC Wireless Bureau Chief. 384/128 speeds will be free and they'll sell the higher speeds and the government will get a kickback of the revenue."
Intriguing, but... (Score:4, Informative)
...it also sounds strangely familiar [intel.com], somehow...
Translation: We won't see it in our lifetimes.From TFA (emphasis mine):
I hope I'm wrong, but this sort of thing has been tried before, with less than satisfactory results [dailywireless.org].
Frequency Allocation (Score:4, Informative)
20 MHz *Bandwidth*, not Frequency (Score:5, Informative)
More precisely, a 20 MHz *bandwidth* of frequencies in the 2155-2175 MHz band. I did a double-take when first reading this article, because it almost reads as though this service will be operating on a center carrier frequency of 20 MHz. That wouldn't make sense, as that's smack in the middle of the High Frequency, or "shortwave," bands. Not only does that provide worldwide propagation at modest signal powers (as little as a few Watts), users of those frequency bands would be limited to at most a few hundred kHz of bandwidth, which would be unusuable for high-speed computer networking.
So, the M2Z service is proposing to run on a microwave band, requiring lots of infrastructure and towers, like WiFi or cellular telephone.
Re:Not enough bandwidth (Score:4, Informative)
Oh, and yes.. TFA is slashdotted.
Ok, working link finally (Score:3, Informative)
More Info on M2Z (Score:3, Informative)
M2Z's website [m2znetworks.com]
M2Z FCC application [m2znetworks.com]
-theGreater.
Or 95% of the web sites (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Um Excuse me? (Score:3, Informative)
Oh, and this is started by the guy who built the @Home network. This is the same guy that had a pretty much monopoly on high-speed, almost nationwide coverage, that everybody wanted, but just couldn't seem to make any cash off of it.
I want the 90s back!
Re: Or 95% of the web sites (Score:3, Informative)
From the above linked document:
Re:Not enough bandwidth (Score:4, Informative)
It's there as part of the settlement that made everyone open their networks to competition. In exchange for that & loosing part of the very lucrative LD business (local/last-mile can be a loss leader in rural areas - which is covered under grants funded by the FUSF fee), the telcos get's to charge everyone the FCC charge.
So, no the FCC charge doesn't go to the FCC - stunned me to find that tidbit out.
Kleiner Perkins? (Score:3, Informative)
Here is their portfolio [kpcb.com]
Why I am not impressed?
Re:Not enough bandwidth (Score:3, Informative)
I noticed however that aside from what I knew was down around 20MHz (namely the 15m amateur band), there is a chunk of specturm that's just allocated to "Fixed" and "Mobile" operation (20.010 to 21.0 MHz), so it's not wholly unbelievable. That's the same allocation as the frequencies they're actually asking for, which is a 20 MHz block up at 2155 MHz.
Anyone with an interest in IT these days owes it to themselves to take a look at the Freqency Allocation Chart [doc.gov]. Most people I've showed it to (I have a large printout on my wall) are generally surprised at the huge swaths of bandwidth taken up by commercial broadcasting allocations that are barely utilized today. By far the most obvious hog on the chart is the AM radio spectrum, but the VHF and UHF TV bands are pretty bad, too, for what most people get from them.
Of course, I'm probably deluding myself to even imagine that whatever purpose the FCC is going to put them towards, if/when they're reallocated, will do any more public good then sitting there un/under-utilized, like they are right now.
Re:Not really (Score:4, Informative)
Re:How do we make money? (Score:3, Informative)
From the Wiki:
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Author Dave Burstein here, agreeing (Score:4, Informative)
1- The business plan sounds dubious, but heck, let's let Kleiner Perkins pay the bill to find out whether they are chasing a dot-com model. May or may not be decent business (smart folk like Dewayne Hendricks are skeptical), but it's good policy to get it built. They are only asking for a 15 year license, not perpetual.
2- The existing carriers will fight like hell to stop anything like this, as noted. So instead of whining, do something in D.C.. I hear more people making noise on these forums than I ever hear in Washington. I know you think Washington never listens, but I've seen ideas of mine in FCC regulations and congressional statements. You may not have the $million AT&T gave to Congressman Bobby Rush, but may of the people making decisions are honest and will listen to you as well. Email me daveb at dslprime.com for some ideas.
3- "So, will this be 95% of the population of the U.S., or 95% of the geographical area?" They are aiming for 95% of the population, with a sensible excuse not to get to the other 5%: excess cost of fiber to connect the towers to the Internet backbone. So my next editorial will be: Serving the next 10%: FCC needs to bring down the cost of backhaul Revive tough "special access" rules where broadband is hard to get (suggesting that if the local carrier isn't offering DSL, make them lease fiber cheaply to someone who will.)
4- All that said about universal broadband coverage on land, some small portion of users (my guess is 1-3% but no one has hard data) are best served by satellite because of terrain/distance problems. Policy on that is to find a way to bring down the price/bring up the speed of satellite service. I always prefer to do that by competition when that can work.
Dave Burstein
Editor, DSL Prime
Re:384/128 is low speed? (Score:3, Informative)
If you order 5 or more phone lines, the ILEC is going to run a T1, because a T1 uses less copper than 5 analog lines.
The CLEC is then going to get the other end of that T1, and is going to offer to sell you cheap data on it, since hell, it is taking up a switch port anyway. And since the CLEC controls the circuit, hell, let's turn the whole thing over on ATM and do everything on demand, so you can get that full 1.54mbit of use out of it, eh?
No one winds up paying a circuit charge, because it's saving the damned teleco money at the end of the day.
I learned this trick working for a CLEC. They started quoting T1's with integrated voice lines to data customers who never used or even knew the voice lines were part of the circuit, just to cut costs.