DebConf6, Hot and Spicy

What do a space tourist, a skinny dipper, politics, and code have in common? This year's DebConf, of course! Robin 'Roblimo' Miller has the writeup over on NewsForge (Also owned by VA). From the article: "Shuttleworth was back in Oaxtepec Wednesday, hanging out and chatting with individuals and small groups, checking his email, and otherwise behaving like most other DebConf attendees. It was obvious that even if not all of them loved him -- or Ubuntu, or his for-profit company, Canonical Ltd. -- he considered this small group important enough to be worth more of his time than the 14,000 people who went to JavaOne."

Ubuntu Logo separate from Debian?

[c41rn]

Using the Debian logo for this story makes sense, but it has also been used on Slashdot for stories about Ubuntu exclusively. I think it's about time that Ubuntu have it's own logo for Slashdot stories in a similar manner to other distros. I know Ubuntu comes from Debian, but it has reached a unique prominence on it's own. Some of the content of the article would seem to support the idea of having an Ubuntu logo to differentiate Ubuntu stories from those about Debian.

Aww, he loves me. Not.

[dedazo]

he considered this small group important enough to be worth more of his time than the 14,000 people who went to JavaOne

This is childish. What is the point of such a comment? How a fully-developed adult can think this - let alone put it in print - just boggles my mind. Very unprofessional.

Shocking

[Ajehals]

..."he considered this small group important enough to be worth more of his time than the 14,000 people who went to JavaOne"...

Im shocked,

Its not like ubuntu is based on debian.

As far as who Shuttleworth spends his time with and what conferences he attends, well its not that surprising he went to this one is it, if Gates and Ballmer had attended however that would be news.

Seriously though, I dont like Ubuntu and I wouldnt use it, frankly I prefer debian proper, but if someone who had never touched a *nix asked what to install I'd give them one of the nice Ubuntu CD-roms I had shipped to me and tell them to knock themselves out, and chances are they'd get on well with it. NIDNRTFA - Sorry

Re:What about the fight?

[KiloByte]

Well, it makes you wonder whether you have been to any conference that included even a small social-like part where no one causes some stir. Usually, with alcohol involved.

Considering the amount of people involved in DebConf, it is pretty strange that there was only one scuffle.

I wish I was there and got a chance to cause some mayhem (not a fight, but surely something reportable :p)

Re:What about the fight?

[JanneM]

Well, it makes you wonder whether you have been to any conference that included even a small social-like part where no one causes some stir. Usually, with alcohol involved.

I've been to any number of conference dinners large and small, and you'd be amazed how often people do not start fights. I have never seen that happen, in fact.

Re:5/12 of laptops running Ubuntu

[realnowhereman]

I've recently bought a Belkin card which is based on a RaLink chip. Debian doesn't have binaries, but that's because they would need a binary package for each driver for each kernel in the archive - completely pointless considering that it's a snap to make your own binary with instructions from the driver homepage [serialmonkey.com].

It boils down to

apt-get install module-assistant rt2500-source
module-assistant prepare
module-assistant auto-install rt2500-source

Which gets the correct kernel headers for you, builds the driver, and installs it.

The Debian guys do a very good job of this sort of thing, the problem I've found is that no one actually knows how easy they've made it. If you don't know about module-assistant you can be tempted to download source, and kernels and do all your own compilation.

Re:Ted was not a saint

[Anonymous Coward]

Again, no one has been willing to state a real reason why he was attacked or kicked out of the project.

There was an extensive email sent to debian-private detailing this, so we all know why. Leaking this information is a violation of the rules of the project that we all abide by, so you'll have a hard time getting it. The reason why this isn't posted publicly is out of respect for the person being kicked out, so they aren't ostracized by future friends/employers/etc for past behaviors.

I believe that Jonathan/Ted was CC'ed on the email, so he can share it with you. I'm surprised he hasn't already actually. However, given his known penchant for editing text, as well as lying to people (like the Debconf6 funding committee) I wouldn't trust what you read if you get it from him.

He went there at great expense with the sole intention of trying to make peace and mend relationships.

He obviously failed in this task. Perhaps honest apologies for past offenses (and he's offended a lot of people in the project) rather than snarky gestures like being the self-appointed cluebat holder would have been a better method?