Everyone Still Rumbling About PS3

To put things in perspective, the Curmudgeon Gamer has created graphs showing inflation-adjusted console costs. The PS3 is far from the most expensive console in history (that would be the Neo Geo, at almost $1000 adjusted price), but that hasn't stopped analysts, publishers, developers, and gamers from grumbling about it the week after E3. ABI Research has publicly stated that Sony may have 'hamstrung' itself with the console's high price. Publishers and developers are worried because (despite Sony's protests to the contrary), developers just don't have the kits to make the games. From the GameDaily article: "'A lot of developers have not gotten the kits,' said Sega of America president Simon Jeffrey while attending E3 last week. 'There certainly will not be a lot of titles available.' The result is that publishers that do want to take part in the PS3 launch will have to release games that don't fully take advantage of the power of the Cell processor, added Jeffrey."

history isn't very good

[prockcore]

Except for the 1st generation systems (Atari), no system that has cost as much as the PS3 has succeeded... even taking inflation into account.

That and he's got the $500 PS3 on there, comparing with the highend 360. He should really have the $600 PS3 on there.

Even adjusted, still expensive

[tengennewseditor]

That chart doesn't really make me feel any better about the PS3's price, the only consoles more expensive on the adjusted chart are stuff like the Neo Geo (rich, niche market), the failed "multimedia" consoles like the CD-i, and the pre-1980 stuff that was ahead of its time. The only comparable (meaning, not niche) console that was more expensive than the PS3, even after adjusting price for inflation is the Saturn, which failed in the US.

Nintendo getting cheaper and cheaper

[oscartheduck]

Another interesting statistic to note is that Nintendo's console's have become less and less expensive as time goes by, even though they're getting more and more powerful. Let's hope the trend continues and see a $200 Wii.

Re:Why Zonk? Why?

[joshsisk]

Also, let's check the front page:

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The guys in shipping...

[Anonymous Coward]

Sony should be worried. And Ill tell you why.

I talked to the guys down in shipping about this stuff. I said "Nintendo Wii," and they laughed and said it was a dumb name.. Then I showed them a pic from the new Madden game, and footage of miyamoto running around on stage playing tennis, and got a "NO WAY! THATS FUCKING AWESOME! HOLY SHIT!" and other such statements.

Then one of the guys mentioned the new playstation. And I just said "its six hundred bucks" and they all said "FUCK THAT.. well, how much is this other thing?" I said I wasnt sure, but probably 200 or 250 bucks, and they said "damn man, i gotta GET ME ONE-A THOSE!!!"

These guys are my tap on the norms. Nice guys. Dim, but nice. Talks like this are very enlightening, and if they reject the new playstation, sony will fail fail fail.

Im sure the ps3 will sell out on release, sure, but Nintendo has got it MADE this coming generation.

Re:history isn't very good

[nutshell42]

Except for the 1st generation systems (Atari), no system that has cost as much as the PS3 has succeeded... even taking inflation into account.

Except for the 1st generation systems (Atari), no system that has cost as much as the Playstation 1 has succeeded... even taking inflation into account.

Sony's doomed! Doomed!

That and he's got the $500 PS3 on there, comparing with the highend 360. He should really have the $600 PS3 on there.

You're wrong. He's comparing both the $300 and the $400 360 to both the $500 and the $600 PS3.

Re:Grumbling or grassroots?

[trix7117]

A summary with several links to more info can be found here [aaxnet.com]. And another report on it here [newsfactor.com]. Don't know if that's the "proof" you want, but it sure looks like MS was/is astroturfing to me.

It was a console.

[YesIAmAScript]

It hooked to your TV. It took cartridges.

It was and is a console.

You might be able to argue a Super Gun (JAMMA to TV adapter) wasn't a console.

But Neo-Geo? It was.

And it was a ripoff. It had a 16MHz 68000, and an 8 MHz Z80 in it. That's the same hardware as a Genesis, which cost $150.

Was Dreamcast not a console because it used the Naomi hardware, which was the same as some of Segas arcade machines?