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SUSE 10.1 Released 45

Posted by Zonk from the lizard-love dept.
SolusSD writes "SUSE 10.1 was released today in both its fully open source version and its retail version. You can read up on changes with the version notes, and as always torrents are available."
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  • damn (Score:3, Informative)

    by SolusSD ( 680489 ) on Thursday May 11, 2006 @12:17PM (#15309277) Homepage
    i posted a link to the torrent in hopes more people would start downloading it and speed up my download, but they (Zonk!!!) took it out of my story summary. :(
    • ummmm.....

      Perhaps you'd like to post it now?

    • Re:damn (Score:4, Interesting)

      by HoosierPeschke ( 887362 ) <hoosierpeschke@comcast.net> on Thursday May 11, 2006 @12:24PM (#15309357) Homepage
      Doesn't matter, most of us at work can't start until we go home anyway, it'll be prime tonight.

      Oh yeah...

      i386 [opensuse.org]
      x86_64 [opensuse.org]
      Everything Else [opensuse.org]
      • i'm at work right now... I just ssh'd into my box at home and started ktorrent in the background. :) Of course, it helps that we use linux here at work.
        • Gah, must be nice, well I can't help you 'til later anyway...
        • Exactly my point, although at this gig we *have* to use XP (bit forture 500 -- already got the SCO letter -- legal said no Linux -- etc) but I have PuTTY to SSH to my homeserver (freebsd) where I can do everything I need, including IRC via BitchX (IRC is blocked at the firewall here at work, and although I could prob work around it via proxy I'd rather keep it all sshhhh quiet. I've been using Dapper Drake at home -- any comments as to how far along SUSE is with their Xgl implementation versus what we're s
    • Perhaps I'm mistaken here, but if everyone started downloading the torrent after you, how would this help your download speeds? Assuming the pieces download sequentially, they would all have pieces that you already have (since you started first) and instead there'd just be more fighting for connections to the few servers/peers that have the few pieces that you still need.

      Seems like if you could have gotten a few thousand people to start downloading the torrent, and then started, you'd be in good shape. But
      • The order is specified by the client, its not random but its not sequential.

        Granted, I'd rather not have a sudden influx of 1000 peers, as thats 1000 more full copies that need to go around and will hurt your dl speed more than it will help.

      • Re:Bittorrent (Score:4, Informative)

        by swillden ( 191260 ) * <shawn-ds@willden.org> on Thursday May 11, 2006 @04:21PM (#15311980) Journal

        Assuming the pieces download sequentially, they would all have pieces that you already have

        They don't download sequentially. Each torrent client chooses what parts to request, but the proper behavior (and the one implemented by most all clients) is to request "least available first". They take a look at all of the peers and seeds out there and pick the block that has the fewest existing copies, and request that one. In practice, of course, there isn't just one least-available block, so they randomly select from the set of least-available. I think (but am not sure) that they may also have a bias in favor of peers that aren't too busy.

        But you're right that getting more to join in the swarm won't speed up the downloads of those already in the swarm. As the swarm grows, the total bandwidth increases, but it does so in proportion to the numbe of peers. If all of those peers are downloading, then the increase bandwidth just gets divided among the increased peers. Theoretically, this shouldn't reduce your incoming data rate, but in practice there is some inefficiency, so it does. As some of the peers finish, though, they stop consuming so the bandwidth per remaining downloader goes up.

        That all assumes everyone has roughly equal pipes, which is true, on average. Mostly, everyone has fast download and slow upload speeds. When some peers with fast symmetric connections hop on, then your actual download speed will see a boost because they're increasing the average available bandwidth. So if you can get a bunch of peers with those connections to join in, you should do it. Getting a bunch more that have the same average upstream speed won't help, though.

  • link to i386 torrent (Score:5, Informative)

    by SolusSD ( 680489 ) on Thursday May 11, 2006 @12:27PM (#15309382) Homepage
    Here's the torrent [opensuse.org] for all 5 CDs (no DVD release, yet).
    This release includes xgl support for KDE and gnome as well as several other nifty features!
    • there's a makedvd program to build a DVD iso from the CD images. I guess this is easier to manage than having two lots of images to download. It's pretty trivial to do, simply put the iso into a directory and run the script - just be sure to have sufficient disk space for the CD ISOs, the intermediate temp files and the final ISO!
      download here [sourceforge.net].
    • Comment removed based on user account deletion

  • Good, but.. (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    ..does it run Linux?

    • Yes, actually! (Score:3, Informative)

      by Kelson ( 129150 ) *
      SuSE includes Xen virtualization, which enables you to run guest operating systems on a host operating system. You can run any OS with Xen support as a guest -- even another instance of SuSE.

      So yes, SuSE will run Linux!
    • I love the distro, despite its many warts. Am using SuSE 10 right now, etc. OTOH, that comment needs +n: Funny asap. Moderators, take note.

  • Upgrading an existing system (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Is there a way to update an existing OpenSUSE 10.0 system via the internet without download the entire set of cds and burning them to physical media?
    • You should be able to just download the netinst CD and use that to upgrade (remember to make a note of the server's IP address first (: ). Alternatively, you can change your sources in Yast to SL-10.1 from SL-10.0-OSS and use the system update thing. A clean install is generally safest if practical, though.

  • SUSE Xgl versus Dapper's implementation? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by fak3r ( 917687 ) on Thursday May 11, 2006 @12:46PM (#15309602) Homepage
    I've been using Dapper Drake at home -- any comments as to how far along SUSE is with their Xgl implementation versus what we're seeing day to day in Ubuntu? (those 'bouncy' windows are just so cool to move! I can't stop!) ;) ... seriously though, they're cool!

    I would expect SUSE would have a better Beagle install though, and that'd be fun to have.

  • xgl is big (Score:5, Interesting)

    by brother bloat ( 888898 ) <brother.bloat@COUGARgmail.com minus cat> on Thursday May 11, 2006 @12:52PM (#15309670) Homepage

    Xgl/Compiz may be key to the widespread adoption of this release. Because Ubuntu's soon-to-be-out next realease (i.e. Dapper Drake) does not include Xgl by default (although it is available via synaptic), I wonder if people will start gravitating toward Suse in search of nifty eye-candy (especially seeing as SuSe is currently hot on the heals of Ubuntu according to http://www.distrowatch.com/ [distrowatch.com]'s counter (to the extent that it can be trusted)...

    Current operating systems (OSX, Windows, Linux) seem to be focusing on (debatably useful) eye-candy. OSX has included some pretty sweet stuff for a while, and one of the main focus points for Windows Vista seems to be the new Aero UI. Xgl is the open source community's answer to all this (of course, Xgl ended up beating Aero to the punch).

  • Seriously, apart from slightly updated versions of most packages and a beta (or alpha?) release of Xgl, is there a good reason to throw away my highly customized and stable SuSE 10.0 installation?

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  • It's so busy that the .torrent file itself is downloading at 1.0KB on my 2meg connection!

  • They say the DVD iso will be out in a week (Score:3, Informative)

    by jfern ( 115937 ) on Friday May 12, 2006 @02:05AM (#15315658)
    I guess I'll be using Suse 10.0 until then. I tried several different Linuxes, and most of them had major problems. Suse 10.0 installed fine, and worked immediately with my Internet card. I downloaded better Nvidia drivers, and had to find some Realtek drivers to get my sound working, but it seemed to have gotten everything else working. I suggest installing MPlayer for multi-media stuff.

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