MPAA training Dogs to Sniff Out DVDs 728
LandownEyes writes "The dogs, Lucky and Flo, faced their first test at the FedEx UK hub at Stansted Airport.
"FedEx was glad to assist in Lucky and Flo's first live test in a working situation. They were amazingly successful at identifying packages containing DVDs, which were opened and checked by HM Customs' representatives. While all were legitimate shipments on the day, our message to anyone thinking about shipping counterfeit DVDs through the FedEx network is simple: you're going to get caught."
Kinda makes me thing twice about shipping anything through FedEX. Seriously, this is like training drug dogs to find plastic bags."
Re:This is a TheOnion article, right? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:OMG! Poniez!!!!1 (Score:5, Informative)
Contact Information (Score:5, Informative)
For further information:
Eddy Leviten, FACT Head of Communications: 020 8568 6646/ 07768 057464
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Re:Spooky... er... Spot (Score:4, Informative)
They don't. If it goes through Customs, they can open & inspect it.
Contact FedEx! (Score:2, Informative)
https://www.fedex.com/cgi-bin/qrf2.cgi?link=4&fir
on their website. This is an important topic, and people should let them know how they feel about it. Please take some time to leave an intelligent comment about this issue.
Re:Who does fedex work for, customers or the MPAA? (Score:2, Informative)
Further more, these inspections are carried out by Her Majesty's Customs, not FedEx. All international packages are subject to customs, and customs can open any and all packages they desire, and it matters not if its sent UPS, DHL or FedEx.
A further consideration is that all major couriers comply with government regulations, and if the MPAA can get a goverment agency to write off on it (e.g. British customs) then they can carry out inspections at any courier, with or without permission. Most courier companies just willingly comply to do business in said country.
But if changing shippers makes you feel better, go for it. But your package may still be opened and inspected. Especially with USPS.
In short, FedEx, UPS, DHL, work to make money. So they comply with government requests.
Please note, read your terms of shipping from any courier. They will give the carrier permission to inspect if desired.
Re:Dogs sniffing data? (Score:3, Informative)
Otherwise, everyone who's ever had a contract or CD of data lost in the FedEx system would have sued the living shit out of them.
The law surrounding freight shippers is pretty well hammered out, the most you'd be able to do is insure it for a lot of money, hope they destroyed it, then claim he full value of the insurance.
Re:Who does fedex work for, customers or the MPAA? (Score:3, Informative)
Uh, yes, that's why I specifically had to note what my response would be if they implimented such a program IN THE USA.
I realize you want to rise to their defense, and that's fine, but please don't misrepresent my statements in order to make your own seem reasonable. If FedEx begins using RIAA-funded dogs to inspect packages in the USA, I will find that highly objectionable. Right now they are only doing it with UK customs in the UK.
And yes, this is solely for the benefit of a third party. You can wave your hands all you like, but customs duties for pirated merchandise benefit neither FedEx nor FedEx customers.
Re:By what authority? (Score:3, Informative)
Everyone keeps mentioning burned DVD's, but they're going after piracy rings. That means a large shipment of manufactured DVD's, not some burned DVD's with the title written by a Sharpie.
Re:So... (Score:3, Informative)
Nope. The "Private Copying Levy" isn't on DVDs. It's only on media used primarily for music such as cassettes and CDRs (that's the intention at least). Private copying also only applies to music.
Re:I honestly doubt this is legal in the US (Score:5, Informative)
Sigh. By handing your goods over to them, you agreed to exactly such a contract. See http://www.fedex.com/us/services/intl/ground.html [fedex.com] and follow the link for FedEx Ground Tariff. Buried deep in the Customs area is this:
"Inspection of Shipments. FedEx Ground, or its agents or brokers, may open and inspect any or all packages in a shipment at any time. This action may be initiated by FedEx Ground or at the request of government authorities."
It's put there so people think it only applies to stuff going through customs, but the description doesn't restrict it like that so anything goes. You can be sure there are similar statements in all the other shipping services. The fact that people believe they have government mandated privacy rights when handing things over to a commerical 3rd party amuses me. FedEx can do whatever the hell they want with your package, and the worst you can do to them is try to get back your declared value by following their claim procedure. You have no guarantee of privacy whatsoever when sending things through them.
Privacy does not exist when sending a package (Score:3, Informative)
Nah (Score:3, Informative)
After a few dozen false alarms, **YOU** would be deemed a threat to national security (after all, you're DOSing the justice system) and the corresponding consequences would follow.
The only difference is we're not talking about sniffing powdered sugar in front of a police station.... We're talking about a legal item (dvd) being used in a common & legal way (transporting through mail).
hmm, watching MY dvd's would be illegal (Score:5, Informative)
So an agent of our courier opening and viewing them would be illegal or at least a civil offense on their part. The person sending them doesn't have the power to sign a piece of paper giving our courier or their agent permission to watch the DVDs.
Finding a burned DVD inside a sealed envelope is not reasonable cause.
At least I know who not to recommend as a courier.
"Throw-down" guns (Score:5, Informative)
I don't have a lot of information on the rest of your claims, but I do know this one to be utter BS, at least where there is at least one honest forensic investigator.
A "throw-down" gun will generally only have prints on the grip and trigger. A gun owned by a human will have prints all over the place: internal parts (put there when cleaning), magazine/cylinder, even each individual round of ammunition. It would be extremely obvious to investigators if a "throw-down" gun was used.
UK Importing (Score:2, Informative)
Drugs are illegal, which means that a dog can sniff it. Simply, it's illegal.
Importing DVDs of many sorts into the UK is legal. We also have a huge amount of importing going on because of certain restrictions on sales of DVDs.
To sell a DVD of a movie in the UK, you need a license from the BBFC that costs a load of cash (like thousands of pounds per movie). R1 discs are not submitted for license, and so cannot be sold here (by retail or mail order). But the law allows for a workaround, that customers can import any movie from abroad, as long as it isn't in certain banned categories.
So, companies exist who provide cheaper, or earlier release discs, and mail out from other countries. All completely legitimate.
Finding a pirate DVD amongst this lot is like looking for a needle in a haystack. If it's too successful, the pirates will just start manufacturing here instead.
Re:OMG! Poniez!!!!1 (Score:1, Informative)
Re:This is a TheOnion article, right? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:dirty little secret about pig dogs (Score:3, Informative)
So - let's compare that, for a new release that I just bought last night when I had an urge to hear Death Cab for Cutie (Transatlanticism) to a trip to my closest store (which is about 5 miles - it being a Target).
The album on iTunes cost me $9.99 ($10.43 adjusted) and about 5 minutes of time while I was playing WoW.
According to the Target website [target.com] it is currently $12.96. Assuming I drive, it will take me at least 10 minutes to drive there. I could conceivably be home with it in hand within 30 minutes - assuming they have it. It would cost me fuel (20 mpg/$3.35/g so $1.675)
The album now cost me $13.932 with tax. With gas, we're looking at an adjusted price of $15.607 ($15.61). That, and I would have had to stop playing WoW, get dressed, go to Target at 22:35 last night... and oops. They close at 21:00.
So - basically, to make a long story short - you're just plain wrong. The only point you have is DRM, and honestly I could care less. It's not like I can't pull the music back in with only minor signal loss (AAC -> AIF) and have DRM-free tunes.
-WS
Re:dirty little secret about pig dogs (Score:3, Informative)