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Grand Theft Auto IV Unveiled On 360 393

Posted by Zonk
from the didn't-expect-that dept.
Despite expectations that this would be the least eventful of the E3 pre-conferences, Microsoft's Peter Moore drops the news that Grand Theft Auto IV will be on Xbox 360. Rockstar and Microsoft have teamed up to do exclusive episodic content in the GTA gameworld for the 360. Slated to release October 16, 2007 in North America, October 19 in Europe. Other details include lots of support for Live Arcade titles (Sonic, Galaga, Street Fighter II), the official unveiling of Shadowrun for the 360 and PC, the airing of the Halo 3 Teaser Trailer (which is already on Xbox Live), and much discussion of 'Live Anywhere'. This last is an expansion of Xbox Live to PC and cell platforms in addition to the Xbox arena.
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Grand Theft Auto IV Unveiled On 360

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  • Gamespot says no. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Hmm.

    XBox 360 with 20GB hard drive ($400) + HD-DVD drive addon ($100?) + 1 year XBox Live ($50) = $550.

    Playstation 3 with 20GB hard drive ($500) + Bluray drive (included) + 5 years online (included) = $500.

    Sony are the arrogant ones here, though, right? OK, just checking. I'm finding it increasingly hard to keep track.

    By the way, Zonk, GTA4 isn't an XBox exclusive. [gamespot.com]

    12:54: I get the official Rockstar Games announcement of Grand Theft Auto IV in my e-mail--it says that the game will be release simultaneously o

    • Where was anything bad said about Sony?

      Just curious.
    • Are you really expecting Moore to have a clue. He's probably still convinced that there is no PS3 and the 360 is competing with the PS2. No GTAIV on PS2 = XBOX 360 exclusive.
    • Yeah, sounds like the core game is for both but..

      "Microsoft and Rockstar have entered into an exclusive deal to privide episodic content via Xbox Live Marketplace."

      so additional content will be only available on the 360 if I understand this correctly.
      • "Microsoft and Rockstar have entered into an exclusive deal to privide episodic content via Xbox Live Marketplace."

        so additional content will be only available on the 360 if I understand this correctly.

        It certainly reads that way, but I'd be shocked if it wasn't for both consoles. It probably just means the deal is inked with MS already, because Sony is still shaking out whatever their Live service is. Rockstar wants that money from the biggest pool of players.

    • XBox 360 with 20GB hard drive ($400) + HD-DVD drive addon ($100?) + 1 year XBox Live ($50) = $550. Playstation 3 with 20GB hard drive ($500) + Bluray drive (included) + 5 years online (included) = $500.

      $500? FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ?!!
      And that's without even a game!

      I can give a starving village in Africa a herd of four goats [heifer.org] that would make them self-sufficient for that kind of money! (Hah, I bet you thought I was gonna say I could buy blowjobs for a year!...)

    • by joshsisk (161347)
      XBox 360 with 20GB hard drive ($400) + HD-DVD drive addon ($100?) + 1 year XBox Live ($50) = $550.

      Playstation 3 with 20GB hard drive ($500) + Bluray drive (included) + 5 years online many (included) = $500.


      Your numbers are a bit flawed, since the $500 PS3 doesn't have HDMI, which some people require to watch HD content on their TVs, also some Blu-Ray discs are planned to be released as only playable via HDMI (to prevent copying or some such nonsense), so the non-HDMI PS3 can't really be considered a full-fe
      • Your numbers are a bit flawed, since the $500 PS3 doesn't have HDMI, which some people require to watch HD content on their TVs, also some Blu-Ray discs are planned to be released as only playable via HDMI (to prevent copying or some such nonsense), so the non-HDMI PS3 can't really be considered a full-featured movie player like the $600 one.

        A.) The 360 doesn't have HDMI out, neither version.

        B.) You do not ever need HDMI out to watch HD (sorta)

        C.) All HD movies will play over non-HDCP outputs, just at

        • by ad0gg (594412)
          a) xbox 360 has HDMI cables [shopping.com]

          b)Depends on the publisher. Sony movies says for their initial blu-ray movie release they'll turn off the secured output requirement. Other publishers may not be as nice. Also all upscaling dvd players require HDCP out.

          c) All depends if ps3 has unified video/sound port like the 360. My guess they'll probably have one but you never know its sony were talking about. They've been acting pretty irrational lately.

          Any way I could careless what sony does, i'm getting a wii in nove

    • But the 20 gig PS3 won't have a memory card slot or HDMI.
  • by dividedsky319 (907852) on Tuesday May 09, 2006 @04:07PM (#15296168) Homepage
    The game will be released for both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 on October 16th, 2007.

    The Xbox version will have "episodic releases" via Xbox Live.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      correct-o-mundo, i crapped when, as a GTA fan, i read it was exclusive to MS in the summary while the story advises it is episodic content is the exlcusive bit.....seeing as how that MS live thing already puts 1 - 5 buck dents in the wallets of gamers for crap like "new horse armour" in Oblivion or a new house, i'm picturing the same for GTA - go to a new bar for only $4.99.

      AND, due to the PS3 not having the same extra content I feel relatively safe in assuming this won't affect the rest of the game, it wil
      • AND, due to the PS3 not having the same extra content I feel relatively safe in assuming this won't affect the rest of the game, it will be like having a billy stick instead of a baseball bat

        I'm thinking additional missions, and maybe more vehicles. Possibly but not likely more areas, and a few other minor things like guns.

        But just the thought if missions alone... Liberty City Stories wasn't enough to get me to shell out for a PSP, but I'll plunk down the discount cost for it for PS2 in a month...
    • by Jordan Catalano (915885) on Tuesday May 09, 2006 @04:23PM (#15296334) Homepage
      The Xbox version will have "episodic releases" via Xbox Live.

      Oh goodie. I'm glad companies are finally listening to me, the consumer. I'm sick of buying a game and then having it. I'd much rather be nickle-and-dimed for additional content as it's made available to me at their discretion.
      • Some people have that single game or two that they love, and would rather spend more money to improve the experiance of that one game than purchase more games. Similar to MMO's where users pay money each month for continued / interactive content. It is optional, you don't have to buy it, you aren't missing anything if you don't get it ... just an option for those who would rather get more of the game instead of buying a different game.
        • It is optional, you don't have to buy it, you aren't missing anything if you don't get it

          ... ... The optional content is exactly what you miss.
          • .. The optional content is exactly what you miss.

            and it is optional. You purchased a complete, working game. They later release additional, optional content that you can choose to play with. It doesn't degrade your current experiance. You have the same experiance you had when you purchased the game. I don't see the problem. You don't lose value, and the people who see the value in the new content can choose to purchase it...
      • Lots of games have them. I can buy Morrowind, or I can buy MW+Tribunal, or MW+Bloodmoon or both. Doesn't stop Morrowind from being a good game, even if it doesn't have all the content of the Gold collectors edition.

        Oblivion is going the way of smaller expansions and lower prices. (No new land+dozens of quests for $20-40, but rather one or two new quest arcs for $2.) I personally don't like this, but it's a valid market choice- if it works for Oblivion why not GTA3?

      • Why don't you just not buy it if you don't like it instead of whining about it on Slashdot? And guess what, if a lot of people agree with you and also don't buy it, then it won't be successful and publishers will go back to the old model! Amazing!
      • You are assuming that the episodic content has zero cost to develop, and would be availabe in the origional game if it wasn't being sold. While that COULD be the case, if the content was "Unlock a new car" or something like that, it also could be the case that this is real, significant content beyond the game... much like PC games often sell extra mission expansions as a seperate package.

        If they sold a pack of say 20 missions, for $20... then it would be worth it.
  • GTA on 360 and PS3 (Score:5, Interesting)

    by CaymanIslandCarpedie (868408) on Tuesday May 09, 2006 @04:09PM (#15296191) Journal
    Sounds like the new GTA will actually be for both the 360 and PS3, but extra GTA episodes will be availiable exclusivly through XBox Live. So the original game will be for both but there will be extra content exclusive to the 360. Stay tuned for more details folks, but the MS conferance.... well all I can say is .... WOW!
  • by Robotron23 (832528) on Tuesday May 09, 2006 @04:14PM (#15296244) Homepage
    Bill Gates' entrance!

    "What is that in Bill's hands? He's holding a tiny white object and can't stop fiddling with it."

    Finally! News that Bill truly is one of us - except hes probably more compulsive about the whole thing. :-D
    • by spun (1352)
      "What is that in Bill's hands? He's holding a tiny white object and can't stop fiddling with it."

      There's a reason he named his company micro soft...
  • by Orrin Bloquy (898571) on Tuesday May 09, 2006 @04:16PM (#15296263) Journal
    "While the game will be available for both the PS3 and 360, only XBox Live will have access to the 'Throwing Chairs Monkeyboy' mod. Rockstar CTO Paul Walker was quick to go on record that the game will *not* become a single-platformer: 'We would never marginalize our most successful demographic, overweight white suburban kids who wish they were dangerous Negroes.'"
  • Unified Live!! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Vesuvias (584893) on Tuesday May 09, 2006 @04:17PM (#15296278)
    This is actually pretty cool. It means that the acheivements and gamerscore are coming to Vista. Xbox live support for multiplayer (good bye gamespy) and its cross platform. I know PC gamers will dispise the concept of playing with console kiddies but given the chance I think this will be huge. Friends lists, video and voice chat, gamerscore, acheivements this is all big and welcome news for Vista. The additional connectivity to the windows community will only help the 360. Leave it to microsoft to once agian figure out how to leverage its OS monopoly to help in other markets.

    Ves
    • I don't like the idea of anything unified under Microsoft... It means MS has a monopoly of games. Personally, I like the current PC approach where games have seperate servers, and they're not linked by anything. No centralised account server to slow down your login, just get on there and play.
    • acheivements and gamerscore are coming to Vista.

      I can picture it now:
      Microsoft Office Vista:
      * Formated a document using Bold [10 Points]
      * Narrowed the margins to make your report seem longer then it is [50 Points]
      * Printed more then 10 copies of a document [25 Points]
      * Saved the same document more then 20 times [10 Points]
      * Created a new document [5 Points]
      * Created 100 new documents [100 Points]

      Oh boy! I sure know I can't wait!
  • Whoa, an "urban simulator" on the XBox?

    How innovative!
  • Most likely (Score:5, Interesting)

    by The_Shadows (255371) <thelureofshadows@noSpAm.hotmail.com> on Tuesday May 09, 2006 @04:36PM (#15296464) Homepage
    As others have commented, it will be released for both PS3 and 360 at the same time.

    What no one is mentioning is the PC release. Rockstar tends to wait for a few months after console release before releasing the PC version. They're not being jerks. They're retooling it for the purpose of bringing it over to PC. That's why the GTA series hasn't suffered from consolitis, by and large. I'll be looking forward to GTA IV on the PC, even if I have to wait half a year.
    • Re:Most likely (Score:3, Insightful)

      Uhh... if anything, GTA3+ was a prominent example of "consolitis". Controls, graphics, and gamplay in general...

      /me remembers savegames and shudders.

  • Why the uproar? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Thrymm (662097)
    If I remember correctly, GTA 4 (IV) is Vice City...
    San Andreas is really 5 (V).

    Any NEW GTA whatever the name would technically be 6 or 7 (if you count Liberty City Stories).

    • Vice City and San Andreas were technically part of the GTA 3 franchise-- they used the same engine. I've not really been a fan of GTA since I got burned out on GTA 3 (The origional), but I'm excited about this-- this means it'll be a whole new game, unlike San Andreas and Vice City, which were basically the same with different storylines and some new features.
    • Nope, there was a GTA3 trilogy, GTA3, Vice City, and San Andreas. Our Rockstar overlords have informed us that Liberty Stories somehow don't count. If you look at them, they are basically the same game. Same game engine, same plot, but a new city every time.
    • Re:Why the uproar? (Score:4, Informative)

      by The-Bus (138060) on Tuesday May 09, 2006 @06:47PM (#15297364)
      Rockstar has said that the current GTA Series are all part of the "GTA3" universe. That is, Grand Theft Auto: 3, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and Grand Theft Auto: Electric Boogaloo are all "GTA3" in a sense. Rockstar has said that after San Andreas they want to take a long hard look at the series, and retool it so that GTA4 is going to be a leap like the one you saw from the second to the third.

      I don't know if this is still the case but I remember them making a big deal about it between the release of Vice City and San Andreas.
  • I thought that Rockstar had given up numbering the GTA series.

    GTA I, II and III were normal. Then we got Vice City and San Andreas, which would be IV and V respectively.

    They're now suddenly going back to using normal numerical systems? What are VC and SA then? III.III and III.VII?
  • by ivan256 (17499) * on Tuesday May 09, 2006 @04:41PM (#15296504)
    Episodic content is just a way for them to raise the price of the game without raising the price on the pricetag in the stores.

    I'm sick of this crap where game companies think they can get $1.00 out of us for what would have been $0.10 of content had it been in an expansion pack, or included in the game to begin with. I'm also pissed at all the stupid moron gamers that buy this crap that 'costs less than a cup of coffee' because they don't understand that they're paying way more money in the long run; thus letting the micropayment mind-games continue.

    I wish one of the next-gen consoles didn't have an online component, so they wouldn't be able to pull this crap. I'd buy that console instead of the other ones.
  • Being a 360 owner, this comes as really good news. The GTA series was the clincher that made me buy a PS2, but since GTA4 will be out on Xbox360 the same day as the PS3 version, there's no need to get a PS3 at all. ;)

    (Though I'll probably get one when it comes down in price.)
  • Changing material after the fact destroys any context for comments written to rebut the claims published on slashdot. May I suggest a retraction next time? It's the honest thing to do.
  • This last is an expansion of Xbox Live to PC and cell platforms in addition to the Xbox arena.

    Okay, am I completely misreading this or does that open the door to PS3 vs XBox 360 over XBox Live?

    Probably not, but it's an interesting possibility.

  • Rockstar = whores.

    All was good when the top-down view games were on PC first, just as god intended. But then they sold out to Sony for GTA3-5. Now they sold themselves to MS for 360. Thankfully, being the whores they are, they'll release a PC version sooner or later, but I'll still be pissed off when I'm the only one not getting any...
  • Wow (Score:3, Insightful)

    by sehryan (412731) on Tuesday May 09, 2006 @05:43PM (#15296944)
    Wow...GTA on the 360...IN 17 MONTHS!!! Why is this exciting news exactly? I am sure there are a lot of great games coming out on all the consoles in late 2007. The reason we haven't heard about them - because they are saving them for E3 2007.

    What is MS going to talk about at next year's E3, Halo 8, arriving at your local game store October 7, 2059.

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