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Prognosticating E3 93

Posted by Zonk from the what's-it-going-to-be-then dept.
With E306 getting underway, basically tomorrow, Game|Life has some predictions of what we'll see from Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo. From the Nintendo piece: "Remember the amazing surprise when Twilight Princess was shown off at E3 2004? Nintendo's press conference on Tuesday will be something on the order of two dozen of those 'holy shit!' moments, all strung together. Fanboy tears will flow. Nintendo will make some surprising announcements about online for both DS and Wii. The 'nunchuck' attachment for the Wii will also have an accelerometer inside it -- it won't be able to detect the position of the controller relative to the screen, but it will be able to detect tilt."
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  • Prognosticating? (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Isn't that still illegal in most countries?

  • Tilt, huh? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Dr. Eggman ( 932300 ) on Sunday May 07, 2006 @07:41PM (#15282720)
    Sounds like a great pinball machine simulator! Great for Monkeyball, or Starfox perhaps.
    • As well as sword fights, fighting games, fishing games, sports games, motorcycle games, ski-do games and hummingbird based shooter games. WE LOVE YOU KOLIBRI!
    • EA has said that you'll be able to run in Madden with the analog stick, juke left and right by jerking the nunchuck around, and stiff arm people using the remote. I dare say that Madden for the Wii will be awesome, but that just about every Madden fan will avoid it like the plague simply because it's for a Nintendo system.

  • Clever (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Life700MB ( 930032 ) on Sunday May 07, 2006 @07:44PM (#15282730)

    Although I am not a gamer myself, I've had a couple of consoles along the time and am very pleased with the 'nunchuck', as is clearly, to me, the most natural controller ever.

    Nowadays is hard to find someone that has never played with a console, but, back in the day, when the nes was the rage (no ataris for us Europeans!) almost everybody who was playing for the first time... o first month in some cases... actually moved phisically the controller as like they where trying to 'push' the Italian plumber, or the Contra fighter, or whatever.

    I'm in no way a nintendo fanboy, but I hope it works.

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    • Yeah, that's actually the biggest concern for me about the Wii controller. Last time I played my dad at Madden he waved the controller around so much he hit me in the head with it.
    • almost everybody who was playing for the first time... o first month in some cases... actually moved phisically the controller
      You must be one of the more evolved gamers as myself and many others still do this (especially driving/rallying games). Just this weekend on MOH I ducked a couple of times. And I have been playing games regularly since the SNES was around.

      Some of us are just 'wired' for hand & arm to eye co-ordination.
    • Sweet, I've gone all these years thinking my older sister was some kind of freak, the way she would flail her arms out in front of her back and forth, and up and down while playing atari 2600. Now I can relax. But that is funny. Me, i wanted that thing (controller) strapped to my leg or the floor or anything that would make it feel 'solid'.
    • (no ataris for us Europeans!)

      WTF are you talking about? Of course we had Ataris.
    • I'm in no way a nintendo fanboy, but I hope it works.
      And hey, even if you're not a fanboy, they'll be cheap enough within a year or two that you could easily pick one up as your 2nd console for this upcoming generation just to play neat controller games and virtual console games.

      I think after years of floundering, Nintendo's struck upon a solid strategy for the next gen, simply by removing the concept of "winning" the generation.
    • Just to clarify - the "Nunchuck" is the thing with two buttons and a joystick that plugs into the main Wii controller and is held in the off-hand.

      The Wii controller itself has long been announced to detect yaw/pitch/roll/up-down/left-right/forward-back motion. The new announcement would be that the Nunchuck has any motion detection at all, even if it's only one 2d axis. It kind of sounds awkward, since the last pictures showed it being tethered to the controller with a cable. If you moved the main controlle
  • I cannot remmber anticipating E3 ever as much as this year. Sure, last year was the first one that I even noticed, but still. A lot should be revealed in the next week that determines pricing, DVD formats, release dates, strategies, publisher loyalties, etc.

    • Re:Crossroads for many (Score:1)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I'm anticipating this year's show too, but really just for the Konami conference (MGS4!) and the Nintendo conference (what the hell WERE they thinking?)

      I noticed that microsoft's conference is the day after Sony's. I wonder if they are hoping a day will be enough time for damage control in case Sony pulls a playstation on them ($299). Of course, they're after Nintendo's conference too. Maybe they'll announce an xbox 361 with hddvd and an innovative new control scheme.

      And then of course, E3 itself... with
      • E3 without boothbabes would = heaven for those of us who are going. I'm there for games and meeting old friends in the industry. Not for tits. Show me those at the nightly parties instead damnit!

    • Re:Crossroads for many (Score:5, Insightful)

      by DDLKermit007 ( 911046 ) on Sunday May 07, 2006 @08:47PM (#15282899)
      Well E3 last year well...sucked...it sucked due to Microsoft getting the indutry changeing to a new console way the hell too soon and they let just about anyone in last year. Stocking clerks, joe-gamer, cosplayers, ya know...people that should be reading gameing sites who really have nothing to do with the industry. As such, far too much stuff was "behind closed doors" and the quota of "swag" to "tits on legs" was far out of puportion. *shoots Gizmondo and Nokia and evil glare for starting the problem* This year however is a launch year which is going to get each of the three companies in a bit of a war for attention shall we say? 360 didn't launch last year (they showed a few games on G4s) and they are going through a "relaunch" right now because it's doing so badly (there is a market outside the USA). I certainly hope it's as good as the last launch year we had. I just hope I'm not deaf afterwards again (2000 was the last launch year I think...E3 has gone downhill ever since...I almost went home after the first day last year).

      • Re:Crossroads for many (Score:1, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        I'm tired of media types berating the access normal people can get to what's supposed to be a tradeshow. Trade-show, IE: for vendors and retailers, and more specifically for vendors to trade ideas, and even more specifically to pitch products to retailers. That's not what E3 is anymore, but that's beside the point, and media access is to blame for that change.

        In all honesty, as a tradeshow stocking and retail clerks have more of a right to be there than anyone with a press pass. They might, however unlik
        • Actually I am industry (not press) and there is a convention for the "non-industry" folk of stocking clerks (if they want to affect purchaseing decisions they need to talk to management E3 is an oportunity to expose management to what they buy) that have zero buisness being at E3. It's called PAX. E3 is an oportunity to show off to the rest of the industry and get developers published by companies that otherwise would never have a chance to look at thier product efficiently (I actually used to serve as a g
          • ....Did you just really, REALLY compare E3 to PAX....

            I'm sorry sir, but you are an idiot.

            PAX is a con for gamers to enjoy gaming. A few, FEW, companies show up and have titles that have been on the dog/pony tour for quite a while. And you think sales clerks/store managers should be at this? When, by the time it makes its way to PAX, buying decision were already filed MONTHS ago (if not already filed delivered and SOLD at the stores.

            Repeat after me
            PAX = Love for the Act of Gaming (including non-video gami
            • Did I mention store managers anywhere (who have no problem getting into E3 this year btw)? NO...I mentioned clerks who have ZERO effect on the decision makeing process past a piddly internal survey. Clerks that go to E3 are there for "Love for the Act of Gaming." Even Gabe & Tyco at PA feel the same.
        • Not quite. Although it is called "trade show" it hasn't got much to do with retailers. I can't imagine EB games sending some folks down there to see whether or not they should order a few of these new-fangled PS3-thingies.

          The only thing along those lines are a few small developers, trying to find publishers for their games.

          The main thing about E3 is and always was a press event, with manufacturers wanting to unveil and promote their new products, specifically to the gaming press, who then give the informati

  • Like Playing With a VCR (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 07, 2006 @07:53PM (#15282755)
    My E3 prediction is that everyone is going to think Wii players are trying to use a VCR with a remote that needs new batteries.

  • Not really a prediction (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 07, 2006 @07:54PM (#15282757)
    The 'nunchuck' attachment for the Wii will also have an accelerometer inside it -- it won't be able to detect the position of the controller relative to the screen, but it will be able to detect tilt."

    That is not a prediction. It was confirmed by an EA representative last week.
    • The 'nunchuck' attachment for the Wii ...

      I know Nintendo wants to be more acceptable to the adult crowd while still being friendly to the kids but this might backfire on them. I can see the "video games are violent for kids" crowd going wild with the nunchuck attachment. I just hope they can knock themselves silly before they can doing any further harm to Nintendo or the video game industry.

  • Audience? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 07, 2006 @07:58PM (#15282763)
    I am just wondering how many people will be following the Nintendo conference, whether via webcasts or the usual website news (mind that F5 key!). Will it be the "largest" event related to gaming on the net?

    I think every gamer, whether a Nintendo fan or not, is eager to see the Wii in action.

    The megaton cometh?
    • I think every gamer, whether a Nintendo fan or not, is eager to see the Wii in action.

      Waa?

    • I am just wondering how many people will be following the Nintendo conference, whether via webcasts or the usual website news (mind that F5 key!). Will it be the "largest" event related to gaming on the net?

      That's a good point. If I were in even remotely the correct time zone, I am sure I would. As is, I hope to download it somewhere Wednesday. I have a PS2 now, but the Wii is the only one of the new consoles that I really an interested in. The others might be worth buying eventually, once they get s

    • Gametrailers.com is going to be airing the Nintendo conference live in HD, starting at 9:30am
    • (mind that F5 key!)

      Hey, lookit that! F5 reloads! Neato. The only thing I've ever used function keys for is Expose. I thought most of them didn't really do anything.

      Heh, no, I'm not joking. I hit F5 to see what would happen.

      • Man, this is just like when people told noob-gamers in the chatroom before a starcraft game to press Alt-F4 to reduce the lag. Thus leaving some room for new players.

  • Nintendo Predictions (Score:5, Funny)

    by dcapel ( 913969 ) on Sunday May 07, 2006 @08:10PM (#15282796) Homepage
    Nintendo will change the Wii back to Nintendo Revolution with a big 'gotcha!'.

    See, I can make baseless predictions and state them as facts too.
    • But that's not baseless! It's based on the wishes of 95% of all Nintendo fans out there.
      • Have you ever heard a Japanese person that's never studdied English attempt to say the word "Revolution?" That word is damn near impossible to pronounce in Nintendo's native country.
        • "Have you ever heard a Japanese person that's never studdied English attempt to say the word "Revolution?""

          Two points: it turns into katakana just fine, though obviously it doesn't have the same pronunciation as the English.
          Point Two: 'A Japanese person that's never studied English' is about as common as an American person who has never studied math. It's required in school, and the majority of Japanese take at least 6 years of it.
          • Let me rephrase that then. I know the average Japanese person is taugh Japanese (I'm currently studying Japanese) and in the end comes out knowing basic words. What I'm getting at though which you seem to have almost entirely missed is that the word Revolution is pretty hard to pronounce by the average Japanese person (heck my Japanese teacher has a hard time saying it). RRRRRR
            • I don't know how far you are in your studies, but you should realize that the katakana version of 'revolution' will sound just like a legitimate word in Japanese, the same way that 'level up' has become a Japanese word, and countless others that include L/R sounds. Just because they don't make YOUR language's sound doesn't mean that they don't have a completely acceptable and obvious (to the Japanese) way of saying it. If you pronounce the 's' in Paris, do you feel taht invalidates it as a name of a city
              • Besides, it's not like American's are even unanimous in their treatment of the English language and pronunciations. A quick trip through the South, New England, the Dakotas, or the Plains will make that abundantly clear. So who cares whether they pronounce Revolution the way we do? As long as they know what they're talking about, it works.

                Realistically, Wii makes as much sense for the Japanese audience as Revolution does. The name's supposed to invoke community and togetherness, "we," but does the Jap

                • Japanese will understand the connection to the English word, as pretty much everyone knows the English word. The native Japanese ways of saying 'we' (wareware, warera, orera, bokutachi, watashitachi, atashitachi, watakushitachi, oretachi, bokura, oiratachi, etc.) don't sound like it, however

      • It's based on the wishes of 95% of all Nintendo fans out there.

        But why? The name "Wii" is no worse than Sony's "Piss 2", "Piss Pee", or "Piss 3".

      • Meh, I'm not happy with it, but a lot of people weren't happy with the name-change from katana to dreamcast, a lot of people thought the playstation sounded like a really kiddy fischer price-style name, the XBox was ridiculous sounding(ala EXXTREEEEMMMEEE teenage bible), Atari 2600(wtf is that?), Famicom, PS2 (phoenetically "piss 2" if you say it fast enough), etc. etc. Step back a bit, and most branding sounds silly.

        I don't love the name, but I no longer hate it, and by the time it launches I'm sure I won
    • Care to wager on that 'fact'. If so, I bet you $10,000 they don't.

  • Wii Launch (Score:4, Informative)

    by jensen404 ( 717086 ) on Sunday May 07, 2006 @08:28PM (#15282842)
    One thing seems certain... Nintendo will have a much bigger and better launch title line up for the Wii than for previous Nintendo consoles.

    Time magazine just revealed Wario Ware Revolution and a Tennis game. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.nin tendo/browse_frm/thread/0c34d048d64a8afd/1a7d18802 7394f91#1a7d188027394f91/ [google.com]

    • I've heard from my sources on the inside that a Ninja Golf [i-mockery.com] remake is a launch title. Blows that Tennis game right out of the water...
    • That Time magazine article was great. If the general public is half as impressed as Time was, then Wii is going to seriously disrupt the entire game industry.

      My favorite part of the article:

      "It's a remarkable experience. Instead of passively playing the games, with the new controller you physically perform them. You act them out. It's almost like theater: the fourth wall between game and player dissolves. The sense of immersion-the illusion that you, personally, are projected into the game world-is po
    • Hmmm Wario Ware Revolution.

      Not Wario Ware Wii

      Or maybe Wii Wario Ware

      Or how about Wario Wii Ware

      But no, listed in Time as Wario Ware Revolution.

      Makes you wonder if there IS a name publicity conspiracy........

      Or maybe Time just went to press pre the name change announcement and didn't confirm the titles 1st....
  • At E3, Nintendo will demonstrate that it has the biggest Wii of all.

    Lest Americans be intimidated, they will, of course, immediately port Chinpokomon.

  • My Predictions (Score:2, Interesting)

    by miyako ( 632510 )
    The article's predictions seemed reasonable, though really there is no way of telling how accurate they may be. Keeping in line with the E3 fervor, I'll post some of my own predictions of what I think (or perhaps hope) will happen at E3.
    Nintendo
    • Nintendo will announce a general release date for the Wii. It will be sooner than expected.
    • Nintendo will announce some accessory for the DS that will add motion-sensitivty to it, for use with the Wii.
    • Twilight Princess will be delayed.
    • Nintendo will show off a

    • Re:My Predictions (Score:1, Interesting)

      by Anonymous Coward
      We may see the next "Halo" on the Wii. At the very least, the next Duck Hunt.

      I wouldn't say the next Halo but then again I would say that (except for easily set-up 16 player lan games) Halo was an over-rated game that was outshined in practically every way by PC first person shooters when it was released.

      I do think that Red Steel is going to be the console First Person Shooter to watch for this year. The reason I believe this is that Nintendo is working very closely with Ubisoft to produce the highest qual
      • I see what you're saying. I also think Metroid Prime 3 could fit the bill for Nintendo's "prototype" (as you say) FPS. I'm not sure exactly why they have two FPSes, but since it's my favorite genre, I'm not complaining.
        • I guess it kind of depends on how far Metroid Prime 3 strays from the formula of the previous two. If I want to play a FPS (which I haven't on console since Golden Eye) I definitely wouldn't reach for Metroid Prime.

          If it is pretty similar in the exploration/action break down then I think having a more straight up FPS will be a real asset at launch for Nintendo.

      • I wouldn't say the next Halo but then again I would say that (except for easily set-up 16 player lan games) Halo was an over-rated game that was outshined in practically every way by PC first person shooters when it was released.

        You sir, are quite right; the point, however, is still missed. Up until Halo, there were two or three (maybe less) good first-person shooters for consoles. I can think of Goldeneye for the N64, maybe someone else can mention the other two (Perfect Dark?). Everything else was an adeq

    • Re:My Predictions (Score:1, Flamebait)

      by Mongoose ( 8480 )
      All our comments about Sony are wrong, so I guess you don't follow them closer than Microsoft. Good thing you did say 'prediction', however you shouldn't 'pull things out of your ass'. If you just read the various press releases you might know more about what will be on the floor than making things up.

      I 'predict' you'll make a great wall street tech analyst as long as keep this up. Nothing personal -- out of the hundred comments like yours by fate I replied to yours. =)
      • No offence taken. I'm no game industry analyst (heck, I don't even get to play games much anymore, let alone closely follow the industry). My comment was probably 20% prediction, 30% humor, and 50% mocking the completely baseless predictions most people make leading up to E3.
        I actually think Sony will probably have a good showing, and I also think that Nintendo will have a decent showing, but I'm not sure if ANYTHING nintendo can do will live up to the hype.
      • Marked me as flamebait, but I was right. Ha Ha! =)

    • Nintendo will announce a general release date for the Wii. It will be sooner than expected.

      That's not going to happen. NEC is fabbing the "Broadway" chips for Nintendo, and has stated publicly that they won't be in production until September.

      Twilight Princess will be delayed.

      Unlikely. Nintendo will not want to release a big Gamecube game after the Wii's released. Last Nintendo said on this one was "fall," which is broad and gives them a range of dates in which to release it. I don't see it being

    • Nintendo will announce some accessory for the DS that will add motion-sensitivty to it

      You mean Wario Ware Twisted without the game?

  • Weeding out non-industry, babes = lower attendance (Score:5, Interesting)

    by markjl ( 151828 ) on Sunday May 07, 2006 @09:42PM (#15283051)

    I'm less affiliated with the industry now, but I've been to three E3s and they are great experiences. I ultimately had to say no to attending this year due to scheduling conflicts.

    However, I wonder if this year two factors will reduce the E3 gross attendance of 35,000 from last year?
    Consider if you will:

    1. Exhibits only hall fee has more than doubled:
      • Last year: early sign up was $150, late sign up: $200 (if I remember correctly)
      • This year: early sign up was $500, late sign up: $650.
        (See Package 4 at http://www.e3expo.com/attendees/pricing.aspx)
    2. Booth Babes are going to be banned and exhibitors fined.
      See http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70075-0.htm l

    I have to discount the latter factor because most people don't know this will happen and probably don't care too much to complain or applaud.

  • They'll announce a port of Call of Duty to the Wii, and thousands of slashdotters will drown in their own spittle while guffawing. DOODY! WEE! :P

  • My bold prediction... (Score:4, Funny)

    by Hamster Lover ( 558288 ) * on Sunday May 07, 2006 @11:30PM (#15283336) Journal
    Ken Katuragi (Sony) and Steve Ballmer (Microsoft) will go several rounds in a mud wrestling competition over who has the better console. In a stunning upset, sommeone will slip a chair ringside to clinch it for Ballmer.

  • Phantom (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Why has nobody mentioned the Phantom console?

    Man, that thing is totally going to hand Nintendo, Sony and MS their asses.

    Right?

  • The 'nunchuck' attachment for the Wii will also have an accelerometer inside it.

    With an accelerometer, the Wii 'nunchuck' will know when I've thrown my controller to the ground when I get too frustrated with the final boss battle.

  • From TFA "Finally, Sony will unveil a new model of the PSP with new hardware add-ons like onboard storage and/or a digital camera, or, you know. Stuff like that."

    Perhaps that means we'll get a power adaptor/new PSP that actually charges when you use it's WiFi.

  • I think Sony HAVE to announce the price of PS3, to stop the endless stream of rabid XBox fanboys shouting about it costing over $500...
  • Anyway, yes I have to admit the bigger splash will come from seing the Nintendo Revolution controller at play, it will be a blast! however the second splash will be from non -fans non-geeks hearing how stupid the "Wiiii!" name sounds for the first time. Other than that, the first batch of games (with the sole exception of Red Steel) sound as terribly non-interesting sequels and ports. Admit it, It will be a while before really cool games (zelda) that use the wii (god, I hate that name!) controller finally s

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