MA Attorney General Seeks Myspace Changes 292
kaufmanmoore writes "Massachusetts' Attorney General Tom Reilly is saying that Myspace is not doing enough to protect children from sexual predators and is calling for action. The biggest proposal is to change the minimum age from 14 to 18 with an age verification system, but also to respond to all reports of inappropriate content within 24 hours and significantly raise the number of staff who review images and content." From the article: "The arrest Tuesday of a 27-year-old man in Connecticut on charges of illegal sexual contact with a 13-year-old girl he met through MySpace underlines the risks of the fast-growing Internet site that boasts about 60 million members."
Raise your own kids! (Score:5, Insightful)
I have two teenage daughters. Both of them have MySpace accounts. Neither of them is meeting mysterious men online.
Those girls are my responsibility. I can't expect them to make sound judgements on their own. I also cannot expect the administrators of a site to take responsibility for others' actions. Here we have another case of putting the blame on the drug and not the user. Here's a tip for you parents that think a government agency should step in:
MySpace is a harmless thing when exposed to smart people. It's the uneducated, unmonitored, and neglected that seem to be the victims. I know everything my girls do on MySpace, and they know it. You should know where your kids are going, and where they're at whether it's a physical location, or a cyber location. I'm not going to have freedoms sacrificed because a select few haven't a clue what their children are up to.
It's easy to blame MySpace because it's hard to raise a child.
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How a local cop got in to show.... (Score:5, Insightful)
A local cop in Middletown, CT posed as a 17 year old. He just struck up a conversation with one girl. He then ask to be her "friend" (a MySpace term to be added to a buddy list). After the first addition, he just kept sending emails to the initial contact's friends asking to be put on their buddy list. The cop also pointed out that there was enough information on the web sites to actually find these girls. When they finally met him, they were shocked to find out that he was this pounchy thirty something.
Anyway, a lot of it is social engineering. Once you get into a circle, you're have access to a ton of stuff. It also happens to adults. ONe of the best ways to start a con game is to go to church! A con artist will get involved with the minister or someone else at the church and then others think that this guys is "alright". The con artist just starts reeling'em in! No tech required!
BTW: I saw this on TV and I don't remeber the show.
Re:How a local cop got in to show.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Note that being added as somebody's "friend" is not some huge statement that she 100% trusts him or believes he is who he says he is. But the media treats it like MySpaceFriend = RealFriend
After the first addition, he just kept sending emails to the initial contact's friends asking to be put on their buddy list.
Well, there is a "blo
Re:How a local cop got in to show.... (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah. My cat [myspace.com] has over 100 myspace friends. People will friend anyone on that site, and it's not like it means they want to have wild sex with every one.
Re:How a local cop got in to show.... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:5, Informative)
I know she'd be crushed if it was taken away from her until she was 18. It's one "social" activity she is involved in where I don't have to worry about her getting involved with drinking or drugs or worse...
Protecting my child is my responsibility as a parent - not the State's - and not MySpace. That being said, if I, as a parent, contact MySpace with a concern about my daughter's account they'd better damn well sit up and take notice!
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:3, Interesting)
if your kid has 15 year old male friends, they probably want to sleep with her.
If your kid has 17 year old male friends, they probably want to sleep with her.
If your kid has 50 year old male friends, they probably want to sleep with her.
What makes the behavior of the 50 year old worse, or even different, from the behavior of the younger friends?
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Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:4, Insightful)
In the first two cases (15 and 17 y/o male friends that (probably) want to sleep with her) the desires are socially normal and if the act actually happened consensually, it would perhaps not be the best choice, but it wouldn't be criminal (never mind that in some jurisdictions, 16 or 17 is the age of consent, many states use 18 years as the age of consent ), it wouldn't trample over as many social taboos (be relativist all you want but a 50 y/o sleeping with a 17 y/o is a general taboo and you know it) and it would be between peers (or much closer to peers in a developmental level sense).
In the case of a 50 y/o male that probably wants to sleep with my 17 y/o daughter, it's not socially normal to actually /want/ to do that -- it's not abnormal for an older male to find a mature 17 y/o girl attractive but the want to actually act on that attraction is not socially normal or appropriate.
If the 50 y/o male did actually sleep with my 17 y/o daughter, it'd be wrong for many reasons, it wouldn't be legal in many states, for one. But much more importantly, it wouldn't be between equals in any sort of sense -- developmentally, experientially, power, etc. all of those would be unequal between those two individuals and that makes it different than the other two cases you suggest and wrong for those very reasons. Healthy sexual experiences usually require there to be some sort of equality in power/experience, etc. for one person to not be victimized by the other. Moreover, it's that very inequity and power differential that draws many younger women to older men (and younger men to older women in some cases, to be sure) -- there's this false sense of acquiring added maturity by dating/sleeping with someone older for at least some younger individuals -- I know I saw it in my youth, amongst my friends and classmates. Therefore, the 50 y/o trying to act on his desires is a danger and he may well try to and be able to use his experience and power/charasima/implied wisdom/whatever you want to say to unfairly take advantage of the 17 year old.
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:2, Insightful)
The 15 year old male friends will have more 15 year old female friends, and will have more of a chance with them; and also wont have much means to cause the 17 year old female any harm - the chance of a 15 year old being a sexual predator is very low, even though 15 year old males will sleep with anything..
The 17 year old male friends who want to sleep with her are more often than not also socially/sexual
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:5, Insightful)
I agree with the premise that any red-blooded male would want to sleep with my daughter (really, she's stunning). I, myself, as a happily married man (20 years), all things being equal and ignoring legal/ethical issues, would happy sleep with a beautiful teenage girl (shyah, when monkeys fly out of my butt). As a parent, I'm protective of my daughter - often, way more so than she'd like (oh the long, lovely discussions I've had with her on this issue).
One thing to consider is that (I believe) sex is different for a man than it is for a woman on a fundamental level. Sex for a man is a very external act. We do it too a woman. Our equipment is external to our bodies and is intended to penetrate into the female's body. On the other hand, sex for a woman is very internal and very personal. I think this fact can have a great impact on the emotional response to sex that a young, inexperienced girl has, as opposed to a guy.
That being said, I'd like to see my daughter date someone who is at a close enough stage in life so that they can reasonably find common ground emotionally. I'd like any relationship they have to able to be based on common interests, activities, peer interaction, etc., instead of sex. This is most likely to occur when her date is close to her age range and in her peer group. Strangely enough, at this stage in her life, I'd just as soon she not have sex at all.
If she is just going out just to have sex for sex's sake, then you are correct; it doesn't matter how old the guy is, what his personality is like, etc. He's apparently just a self-powered dildo. If this is the case and we aren't worried about her emotional well-being and have no consideration for her future love-life then why don't I just have sex with her? After all, it would solve a lot of problems. I'm clean, I'm gentle, I'm caring, I'm skilled, I'm fixed! But we do care about her emotional well-being and her future. And now things like this start to matter.
If a 50 year-old man wanted to "get together" with my daughter, I can be pretty confident that he's only after one thing. If a 17 year old kid wants to "get together" with my daughter then I can at least hope that he might actually want to get to know her, spend time with her, and "earn" his way into her pants (to be crude about it). Just like I earned my way into my wife's pants when I was in college. I wooed her. I dated her. I got to know her, and I made a commitment to her. In short, yes, I wanted to sleep with her, but I also was interested in doing a lot of other things with her. We were friends. Then we became lovers.
Now, I happen to know for a fact that my daughter has had sex. She lost her virginity when she was invited to a college party, slipped a micky, and raped. It took us, as a family, a long time to come to grips with what happened. I think she's handled it quite well, but it goes to show that even people close to her own age can be dangerous to her.
I know she's going to be curious about sex. That's healthy. It's my responsibility to give her the tools necessary to make the right descisions about sex and to provide an appropriate level of protection and structure for her while she's living under my roof. Sometimes, that means forbidding her to date someone who I think is inappropriate (too old, too bad a reputation, too pushy, too abusive, too disrespectful of her, etc.). Sometimes it's giving her enough freedom to make mistakes for herself.
What it all boils down to, though, is that I am involved in her life. I have educated myself about what goes on on MySpace and am vigilant for signs of trouble. When I see cause for alarm, I must assert my authority as her father to do what I believe is in her best interest. And as you parents of teenagers know, this is a fine line we walk. We have to learn to pick our battles carefully or risk loosing our children.
So, does age matter
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:4, Informative)
Good parents make for good kids/communities/countries/worlds. Thanks for making the world a little better place. If you're ever in the vicinity of Los Angeles, you've got a beer on me.
My name is Ross Bagley and my email address is: <firstname><at><firstname><lastname><dot><com>
Regards,
Ross
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm married with 2 teenage kids. What sex life?
This was a tough one. As you said, her physical virginity is different from her emotional one. In the process of recovering from this ordeal we tried very hard to get he
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:2)
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Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:2, Interesting)
Its easy to blame the people blaming MySpace, because its hard to think about a real solution to the problem. Hint: like most things in life, its somewhere in the middle.
You could use this same silly counter-argument to get bar owners to stop checking ID. After all, any "responsible" parent would "always" know what their children are up to, wouldn't they? This isn't
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:2)
you don't necessarily know everything... (Score:2)
That you know of.
Who says they don't have a second account they only log into from a friend's house, or at school, or the public library?
Parents who think they know everything about their kids don't remember their own childhood...
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:4, Insightful)
Perhaps you're the gullible one, believing that just because your kids hate you, you can't do anything about it.
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:2)
Why's that, exactly? My kids are 4 and 6, so I don't have to worry about it yet, but I guarantee you I will know what they're up to, and they'll know what the rules are. In this case, they'll have a MySpace account IF and ONLY IF I have total access to view what they're writing.
And if they break the rules, they will suffer the consequences.
This ain't that hard. You just have to be willing to
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:2)
You give them rules, and you check up from time to time. They know if they break the rules, then they get punished. Sure, being teenagers, they'll test the limits, but if you're consistent in enforcing the punishment, they'll learn not to push it.
They'll know if they violate my trust (like going to their friend's house to break the rules, rather than in my house), that's going to result in a big punishment.
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:3, Insightful)
No, you treat them like kids. What, are you one of those people who think kids should be able to run around and do anything they want to? That's exactly why we have so many screwed up kids these days. Kids are not adults. They need boundaries in which to grow.
Do you treat your wife/husband/significant other the same way? How about your employees?
Um, wives and employees are adults, and kids are not.
Perhaps too many parents simply have
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:3, Insightful)
- Know what your kids up to. Ask questions.
- Monitor what they do, and make them aware of it.
I'm sorry but these two sentences tell me you don't actually have teenage kids, or you're a very gullible parent
If you think all teenagers are untrustworthy, then you might want to review your own parenting skills.
Re:Raise your own kids! (Score:3, Insightful)
Raise your own kids! (Score:3, Insightful)
Me, being, y
Re:Raise your own argument. (Score:2)
The constitutional freedom that says "if it ain't in here, it's a freedom" aka, The Ninth Amendment.
I'm sick and tired of people who keep repeating the same old shit over and over "oOoOoOoOo it's not in the constitution, you don't have a right to it". Yes, I do. The right to privacy (except where the government is specifically permitted to violate that), the right to not have the government bully me around (except where the government is spec
Re:Raise your own argument. (Score:2)
There isn't one.
aka, The Ninth Amendment.
The Ninth Amendment doesn't say that.
It says that you have some other rights that are not listed; it does not say anything about what those other rights are. It says that rights which are not listed do not cease to be rights; it does not say that everything that is not listed is a right.
In short, the Ninth Amendment says that the Bill of Rights is not an exhaustive list. That's all.
Re:Raise your own argument. (Score:2)
Whatever (Score:5, Insightful)
Oooh, that's scary. I bet kids will have a really hard moral dilemma lying to the "are you under 18? [YES] [NO]" page.
Re:Whatever (Score:3, Interesting)
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That would be discriminatory ... (Score:2)
... against kids whose parents don't have credit cards.
Re:That would be discriminatory ... (Score:2)
Hardly stopped the US Congress from trying to do that for "adult" sites on the internet to combat porn -- IIRC, in at least two different bills that were struck down as unconstitutional.
Certainly not going to stop politicians from pressuring private sites from doing it "voluntarily" to "protect the children."
Re:Whatever (Score:2)
Re:Whatever (Score:5, Insightful)
Why?
Only minors are allowed to make their profile information or posts private.
So people who've decided they want to keep the MySpace social scene going but don't want prospective employers, or ex-girlfriends, or nosy relatives to see it just change their birthday, and they get the option to mark things as private.
Stupid restriction --> Predictable results.
Re:Whatever (Score:3, Insightful)
Oooh, that's scary. I bet kids will have a really hard moral dilemma lying to the "are you under 18? [YES] [NO]" page.
Not only will they lie and say they are 18 to enter the site, but they will look legal to people browsing the site.
Re:Whatever (Score:2)
Have you tried browsing profiles with the age selection set to 90-100? I haven't found any seniors there, yet. And this is with the current restrictions.
If you're wondering... (Score:3, Informative)
Anyway, thus Tom Reilly's sudden concern about MySpace...
Re:If you're wondering... (Score:4)
So, in other words, wag that little doggie [imdb.com]?
Re:If you're wondering... (Score:5, Informative)
Meanwhile, here's what he does when two minors are killed in a car crash [boston.com]
Horrendous web design (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Horrendous web design (Score:2, Informative)
Anyhoo, the main point is that I knew someone who was dubbed a natural because he knew how to use dreamweaver. I had to maintain his code afterwards and it was a mess. Nested tables are nested tables regardless of whether they were written using Frontpage, Dreamweaver, or vi.
CSS classes are a lot like variables -- give them meaningful names. class1, class2, and class3 don't cou
Retarded (Score:2)
And the other big question is...does this jackass plan on paying for all those additional employees?
As much as I hate huge evil corporations, what I hate more are politicians who mandate this huge crock of shit and then just make the companies cough up the dough to pay for it...which inevitably ends up costing the e
Re:Retarded (Score:5, Funny)
Just for, uhm, posterity, what web forums might these be?
Parents (Score:2, Insightful)
Quite sad if you think about it.
Re:IANA...Parent...but! (Score:2)
No sadder than an Anonymous Coward presuming that we should give a damn about its opinion.
Yet another example of..... (Score:5, Insightful)
PARENTS - Other people are not responsible for your children. That's why they're your children. Spend time teaching them -why- this sort of thing is bad. If you don't trust them, limit their internet usage. Keep tabs on where they are and what they're doing. IF you don't like the commitment and responsiblity that comes along with it, don't have children.
Re:Yet another example of..... (Score:2)
So, who'll stay at home? The father? NO WAY! The mother? That's sexism!(/sarcasm)
When a country is forcing BOTH parents to work so they can "raise" their children, you know that country is screwed up to the limit.
OR.... (Score:3, Insightful)
When we start expecting private citizens/companies to be our law enforcement (e.g.RIAA,etc.) is when things tend to get COMPLETELY OUT OF HAND!
There goes MySpace... (Score:5, Funny)
change the minimum age from 14 to 18
Er, make that 30 million members. If they raise the age to 21, they're screwed.
Hilarious oversights abound (Score:5, Insightful)
Great idea, guys.
Re:Hilarious oversights abound (Score:2)
mens rea = intent
actus reus = action
When a college kid gets caught hooking up with a highschool girl who snuck into his fraternity party, he gets charged for the action of statutory rape -- regardless of what he thought at the time.
When old men show up at the house of a "teenager" for sex when it was really a cop on the other computer, they're charged with the intent to commit statutory rape.
The system is suppos
Re:Hilarious oversights abound (Score:2)
There is mens rea here; the required mental state, though, is fairly minimal, but if the action was, e.g., genuinely non-volitional (highly unlikely), its not punishable. That there doesn't have to be specific intent on all elements does not mean there is no mens rea -- mens rea has neve
Re:Hilarious oversights abound (Score:3, Insightful)
Most (if not all) of these internet stings begin with the Police explicitly stating whatever age they're pretending to be, usually fol
When 13-year-olds are outlawed... (Score:3, Funny)
what about false ages? (Score:2, Interesting)
Really forward thinking! (Score:2)
Why (Score:2)
What is so good about myspace. (Score:3, Insightful)
Also does anyone see a problem with "whatever the kids like" being an automatic scapegoat for pollies looking for a bit of attention.
I suppose it isn't all bad, it might replace the "video games are evvilllll" argument. Like when video games replaced d&d, or when d&d replaced rock music or when rock music replaced jazz music...
Re:What is so good about myspace. (Score:2)
I've got one word for this attorney general (Score:2)
Or how about two, Tripod...
Three? FortuneCity...
How does a man like this get elected Attorney General?
How old are they? I know Geocities is old...
I have an alternate plan. (Score:2)
In fact, let's have ISPs make subscribers sign hold-harmless clauses, promoting this idea.
OMG, don't tell me... that would intrude on the rights of parents, or something, wouldn't it?
MySpace may present an attractive nuisance, but it's not because kids can sneak past the age verification. (If so, merely raising it won't do a thing, anyway) It's because kids have not been taught to not to leave personally identifying
MySpace saves lives (Score:2)
Right... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Right... (Score:2)
This arrest shows that people are paying attention (Score:5, Insightful)
Well it also underlines that the police, FBI and MySpace admins are doing their jobs and keeping their eyes on the ball. This kind of predation is a risk in any kind of communal space, online or not. The answer is to be careful, and let your friends know where you're going & who you talk to.
The answer is NOT to outlaw communal spaces, or ban younger people. The idea that under 18s should be banned from public parks would immediately be seen for the stupid overprotective reactionism that it is. But because this is about "the internet"... ooh, scary! Suddenly no amount of legislation is enough.
Re:This arrest shows that people are paying attent (Score:3, Interesting)
Um, really? What shining ray of hope do you live in that still thinks so? My local park closes at 8pm year-round. Kids (who else uses a park?) can and have been charged with tresspassing. Granted, it's usually in addition to other charges involving drugs, alcohol, or vandalism.
Re:This arrest shows that people are paying attent (Score:2)
What does having a closing time have to do with banning minors? Most public facilities are officially closed at night for security reasons, but that doesn't mean it would be sensible to ban 13 year olds from using them at 2 in the afternoon.
I feel sorry if you live in such a horrible community that nobody over 18 goes to the park. Ther
What exactly has changed? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What exactly has changed? (Score:3, Funny)
Redundant (Score:3, Insightful)
Targeting the target market (Score:3, Insightful)
Tom, wouldn't it be easier just to put them out of business?
OMG Parent More!!! (Score:4, Insightful)
Lots of parents work two jobs. Lots of parents don't understand computers. Lots of parents simply don't know enough about their teenager's life to check for some things (to those that do, or think your parents did, I'm sorry. You're lying. Everyone keeps things from everyone else, regardless of their relationship).
And even so, how is this a raising thing? Kids are having sex, and parents can't stop them from that. How does it make any difference when it's some guy they met at school, planning over AIM and some guy on myspace who happens to be a sexual predator? Again, you don't know everything your child is up to (nor should you), and you never will.
Even putting that aside, these arguments are ridiculous. We have a problem of kids being subjected to predators on a website. The state has a duty (not even just a right, a duty) to ensure that if there are unacceptable risks, safeguards are put in place to assure that we've done all we reasonably can to protect the children. This is bad how? Because it'll curb kids' ability to use a website to share things? While I think the child's ability to express himself online is important, I think making our best effort to ensure that kid isn't going to be assaulted by a predator is pretty darn important too.
The "parent more" argument is a useful tool for people with agendas, but it has no logical stopping point. Why should the state have battery laws? Shouldn't parents teach their kids how to avoid fights? How about laws against gang activity? Shouldn't parents tell their kids to avoid gangs and vandalism? By this logic, simply "raising" your kid would solve the problem, but obviously it doesn't.
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Re:OMG Parent More!!! (Score:2)
I disagree, it has very logical stopping points.
Because battery is an actual offense against a specific person, not a crime designed to prevent a specific class of people ("children") from coming into contact with people or material which might harm them.
Yes, they should. And children shouldn't be pro
Re:OMG Parent More!!! (Score:3, Informative)
First off, it's bad because it obscures the problem. Parenting is an obligation, and that obligation rests with the parents. The fact that most parents are busy, or t
Re:OMG Parent More!!! (Score:2)
You can't start the process when they become a teen. You start the process when they're very young. You can't wake up one day and realize your kids are out of control and expect to get any results.
We have been participative parents from day one. Both of us. We both have had full time jobs. We had to sacrifice the "what about me?! when do I get time for me?!" attitude to pull it off. We didn't decide to expand the family until we were in that frame of mind.
Being a parent
This doesn't go far enough (Score:5, Funny)
Only in this way can we ensure the next generation is fully ready for the challenges of adulthood.
So this time it's "the children" (Score:4, Insightful)
Quite seriously. If you can't take care of your kids, then you're unfit as a parent and CPS should step it. Case closed. It is NOT the responsibility of the country to raise anyone's children, except those children that don't have parents! It is not the governments responsibility to keep them out of trouble.
It is YOURS, if you're a parent! Not mine. Not the country's. YOURS.
Then again, why do I bother to ramble? It's just the usual excuse to cut into civil liberties with a petty excuse that nobody dares to stand up against.
Ok. I do. To hell with children. I want freedom!
Don't legislate- EDUCATE!! (Score:2)
The internet doesn't molest people -people molest people.
If I owned it, I'd shut it down.... (Score:2)
So go home and write a letter to the following jackass:
and find somewhere's else to go. Maybe that playground with the dirty old man who's there every wednesday, shuffling cards underneath a blanket in his lap. What? The park's closed too? Bummer...
**************
I'd post this on the front page along with
Wow! What a coincidence! (Score:3, Insightful)
Would anyone have seen this coming? Wow....
Jerk.
GIVE ME SOME NUMBERS! (Score:2)
How many "online predators" are there when compared to "real" predators? I don't have any numbers, but I'd guess there are more "real" predators in my small-town America Chico, CA with 75,000 people than there are internationally through myspace.
Are there some?
Sure.
Enough to worry about?
Well, I'm much, much more worried about my dog getting hit on the somewhat busy str
myspace may suck but... (Score:2, Insightful)
myspace should randomly put huge/loud pornographic images on the pages of anyone who "says" they're above the age of 21/18 just so when parents come by they might actually take alert to what their children are actually doing.
if they're lying about their age... fuck em. they're beating the system and are probably enjoying it... and maybe a little too much.
if the parents have a problem with it... fuc
Some dare to oppose the hysteria (Score:2, Funny)
The Paedofinder General kills a lifeguard watching over bathing children. At one point the lifeguard's hand is obscuring the logo on his Speedo swimming trunks, leaving 'peedo' and thus all the evidence the PFG needs.
The Paedofinder General executes Banjo the "paedo-dog" for licking his owner's face (a child).
The Paedophile General invades the stage of a production of Fiddler On the Roo
Web Hosts? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Even better: How to block MySpace (Score:3, Insightful)
Even better: teach them not to leave personally identifying information lying around in public view. That's a lot better than trying to play catch-up and block each new social site in turn.
Oh, and it's "you're set," not "your set."
Re:Even better: How to block MySpace (Score:2)
Well, don't act so sur- hey, you're sneaky
Re:Even better: How to block MySpace (Score:2)
In all seriousness, the kids that this article is about are likely vastly more capable of (de)programming a firewall then their parents. Hence the need for the latter to seek a legal solution to their problems instead of a technological one.
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Re:13 14 18 (Score:2)
Just try browsing MySpace profiles with the setting for ages 90-100. See who you really find. A few even admit their age (some under 13). In many cases, pictures don't lie. I haven't found any seniors there, yet.
Re:I can't stand MySpace... but... (Score:2)
Is it ANY places' responsilbility (online or in the physical world) to do that?
I had an experence in the late 1980s going to a roller skating rink. I wore a tweed hat which I was asked to remove because "gang members wear hats". It's a mystery to me as what what gang would be wearing a tweed jacket and a hat... but clearly as this was a place with many kids they experenced pressure to make sure it was a safe enviroment... or at