World of Warcraft In the Axis of Evil 117
Kotaku is running a piece by Wagner James Au, discussing the place World of Warcraft has in 'The Axis of Evil'. From the article: "Then again, there's little reason to think the ban was enforced much at all. Veteran WoW players tell me they often raid with folks who say they are Coalition troops in Iraq who've cleverly hacked around military firewalls to log in. And while it's doubtful that anyone but Kim Jung-Il and his geek cronies could log into World of Warcraft from North Korea, there's still an embargo on Iran."
ww2 (Score:1, Funny)
Not WW2 (Score:5, Informative)
This is about the Axis of Evil - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil [wikipedia.org]
Regardless, WoW should have nothing to do with either of them apart from legislation restricting export of certain goods, such as software, to countries to which the originating country holds an embargo - such as Iran.
I had to look into that for the software developed at our country as well to see if we could sell to a potential customer in Iraq - and we could after it was 'liberated'.
Fore more information, see:
Cuba? (Score:2, Insightful)
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So, when does the USA intend to give back all the property of the British Crown that they stole after the War of Independence?
Oh, wait, I forgot. It's different for Americans. Americans are special, and the world should do as they say, not as they do.
Re:Cuba? (Score:4, Insightful)
As soon as Britain can take it by force, of course.
Excatly. And the name of the difference is power. As long as the US is the strongest nation on Earth, it will keep on being the biggest bully as well. As soon as some other nation gets the power, they will become the bully as well.
Why does the US, or any other country for that matter, still keep on talking about right, justice, democracy, or any such thing in their rethoric is beyond my understanding. No one believes it. International policy is not about those things, never has been, and likely never will be, and that's hardly a secret. It is about power, the acquisition and defense of it, at any cost. Talking about "Axis of Evil" or other such nonsense simply adds a touch of hypocrisy to it, it does not make it any less filthy affair.
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Secondly, to say that the United States didn't overthrow their government is retarded. They did. In the exact same way Castro did. The only difference is that American Patriots took a larger area, and killed more people. It would be nice to remind you here, that my country (Canada) gained our independence without armed conflict.
Let's go into the 'history of terrorist
Re:Cuba? (Score:2)
Exactly! The revolutionaries sailed from the colonies to Britain in a yacht filled with explosives and weapons. Their initial attempt to depose George III failed, but with a guerilla campaign staged from the mountains in the north, they were able to force George III to flee the country, along with the accumulated wealth of the treasury. George Washington marched into London in
Re:Cuba? (Score:1)
This rhetoric is directed towards their own population. As you point out, populations of other countries will not believe it at all, and the better educated of their own population will not believe it either, but it is useful to gain the support of the less educated majority.
Re:Cuba? (Score:2)
I have a hunch. Increasingly conflicts are won and lost not on the battlefield, but rather at home.
USA "lost" in Vietnam much more because of forces back home than they did because of anything that actually happened in Vietnam. If Bush is forced to withdraw from Irak or Afghanistan before he really wants to, this will very likely al
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I can't understand the US attitude to Cuba - can't trade with them but renting space for a naval base is OK.
Re:Cuba? (Score:5, Funny)
That's the only thing about US policy you don't understand?
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I think you're trying to be funny (and it would be funny if it was true). Currently, Cuba has refused to accept the "rent" of $5000 since 1960, so the US is there for free. The US took up occupation of the area at the end of the Spanish-American war, at which time the US controlled the entire country. After the war, the Cuban people eventually set up their own country which was friendly to the US. It
Re:Cuba? (Score:1)
Nowadays, Cuba is giving lots of *direct* help to Venezuela's dictator Hugo Chavez and to Colombia's narco-guerrila terrorists of the FARCS. The Comunist Party of Cuba, together with B
Re:Cuba? (Score:1)
Fucker. Everything is terrorism these days, it seems. They're in 'talks' for potential terrorist a
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That's the goofiest thing I've heard all week.
Re:Cuba? (Score:1)
I think the idea originally was to make the people suffer in order to foster an anti-communism coup or revolution. Oh yeah, that's likely. The cubans who don't like it there come here, and most of the rest are happy.
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Re:Who Cares?? (Score:2)
Give the U.S. some more time to level up, then the Level 60 WoW Trolls aren't going to be able to bash the U.S.
Re:Who Cares?? (Score:2)
One gets used to it after a while, and learns not to make such troublesome comments. It's not censorship. I mean, who are we to go around stirring up trouble by pointing out unpopular truths? Think about your fellow content consumer. They deserve not to be bothered by crackpots and wierdos and their bullshit "facts."
WoW belongs in the axis of evil (Score:5, Insightful)
Now if you're both in the military and addicted to WoW then you're really in trouble. That's either the second or the fourth circle of hell, depending on how the maths work. Either way it isn't good.
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Dammit, so what am I supposed to do with all this Slashdot karma now?
Now, I hate farmers... (Score:4, Interesting)
Whether Vivendi will bow to Chinese requests, should they decide to demand it? Certainly. But they will enforce it only when there's positive proof that a player is Chinese, and only when someone requests it, they certainly won't waste resources to hunt them down. After all, it's money for them when someone plays. Actually, I'd guess they'd appreciate such a demand. After all, it allows them to ban an account, knowing well that the customer will buy another one.
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Yahoo! doesn't have those problems. In fact, their services are free and the Chinese users won't buy anything advertised.
Re:Now, I hate farmers... (Score:3, Informative)
Eve Online [eve-online.com] is creating a chinese shard to cater to this group. I doubt it will stop the chinese macro miners, but it might. Especially if their country blocks access to Tranquility. I mean, yeah yeah freedom of speech, but they're driving down the price of omber.
This will mean that Eve can no longer say they're only one server... but, still. 25,000+ people on the same server is nothing to sneeze at. Go invest in some RAMSAN's, blizard!
~W
Re:Now, I hate farmers... (Score:1)
Set up a macro that spams: "Release Feng Yang! Freedom for Falun Gong! Democracy for Tibet!" and whatever else you think would set off the great firewall.
Leave Our Troops Alone (Score:2, Insightful)
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I'd be happy to be proven wrong on this, as I'd love to think that even in a hellish war zone my fellow gamers can get their fix, but it just doesn't seem like something that would actually be allowed to happen all that much. And even if against all odds and logic it somehow did happen, I doubt said gamers would be bragging about their exploits in a damned text chat.
The idea that people who are sitting comfortably at home playing a computer game may be fishing for some sort of street cred or sympathy by falsely claiming to be among those whose lives are being put on the line is completely disgusting on every level.
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Presumably a few isolated parts of the military do have super-duper network security, but the vast majority of it isn't likely any harder to circumvent than your typical half-assed corporate firewall. Now I'm only basing this on anecdotes from my many friends and relatives that have been through the military, I don't know it from personal experience, but if half of what I've heard from sources I consider reliable is true, it would actually be a mir
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My guess is that it's either kids thinking that claiming they're in the military will make them seem cooler somehow (or kids who've got family in service and want to be "closer" in some strange way) or that it's military folks who are accessing the game from Internet cafes over there (I think they have some - there was a documentary about troops ov
Re:Leave Our Troops Alone (Score:4, Interesting)
Communications jobs in the Air Force aren't exactly filled with tasks, so we've got a lot of free time to play around. Nobody here is a WoW addict to my knowledge, but it wouldn't be terribly difficult to pull off, and no-one would care even if they did.
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***The US military vs The XXaa mercenary squads***
In the year 2012 the MPAA and RIAA grew frustrating with the US government's soft-on-crime attitude towards online piracy and decided to do something about it. Moving their headquarters to opulently furnished and well defended artificial islands in the Pacific ocean, the new self-proclaimed XXaa government declared the United States to be a rogue state supporting hordes of vicious, smelly pirates.
The first volley of
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Just to add, I have an Army friend in Iraq who tries to play WoW. While local LAN games are popular, he states that he has so much trouble with WoW (especially the Battlegrounds) because of his 8000 second ping. Yes, it would be excruciating to wait 8 seconds for Blizzard's servers to receive your command and then have to wait another 8 seconds to see the result back on your screen.
There are some good days where he gets only a 4000 or 3000 (*Woot!*) ping, but WoW is pretty much unplayable for anything exce
Re:Leave Our Troops Alone (Score:3, Insightful)
Hell, even the censoring of certain websites (rotten.com, ebaumsworld.com, and theo
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I'm Comm in the Air Force, posting from a govt computer right now at work. Wonder no more, they did fix that. However there are plenty of proxy websites out there that let me surf all those sites that are blocked by our f
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It'd be especially easy for Comm guys since all our jobs are getting replaced by Civilian contractors now that it's more or less safe inside the base walls.
Bastards get paid like $160,000 a year to do the same job I'm doing for ~$20,000
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This kind of thing is completely believable, the military has a huge proportion of gamers, especially miniature games like Warhammer 40,000.
And what's the big deal with a firewall being military? I'm sure that at the level they're operating it's no different than the firewalls at use in corporations and universities. It's no
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No that's World of Starcraft (Score:3, Funny)
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I'm still waiting for Ghost to launch on my Nintendo 64.
Most countries are banned from WoW, too (Score:5, Interesting)
Just got banned today after playing WOW because I am not currently in North America. Apparently Blizzard does not care about those who are stationed abroad in the Armed Forces and working for them. I purchased WOW in the Post Exchange in Seoul Korea on the Yongsan Army Base there, which is considered by law, U.S. Soil. I installed the game and created my account using my U.S. Credit Card from Delaware. My billing address was an APO, AP address which stands for Armed Forces Pacific, Army Postal. After playing the game for 3 months I got an email stating this:
" Access to the World of Warcraft account BTOBEYONDER, and all World of Warcraft accounts associated with the payment information you have provided, has been permanently disabled. It is implicitly stated on the account creation page that: This account creation process is only available to customers in North America, New Zealand, Australia, and Singapore. As a result, the account(s) will no longer be accessible in any way and will not be reopened under any circumstances. Thank you for your time and understanding in this matter.
Regards,
Account Administration
Blizzard Entertainment "
Re:Most countries are banned from WoW, too (Score:5, Informative)
I'll be honest, I play WoW from time to time and thus maintain my account there (so my character doesn't get dumped), but Blizzard has really begun to grate on me. They're starting to become one of those organizations that I just feel vaguely dirty for associating with, much less paying a subscription fee to.
I'd encourage anyone serving overseas at a military installation or embassy who's been given the shaft by Blizzard to publicize it as widely as you can; there's nothing that really inflames Ma and Pa Kettle like a corporation being dicks to troops overseas, and I could easily see an organization like Blizzard which is highly dependent on public opinion bowing to pressure and changing their policy in a hurry.
It Could Help (Score:2)
Kinda wrong to use this tactic, so I won't endorse it. Just putting it out there.
I unsubscribed, myself. I'll vote with my dollars elsewhere.
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On a more serious note.. my platoon collectively purchased our own satelite internet from some guy in the town we were living in. It was th
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You don't have to "maintain" your account, Blizzard will never delete your characters (at least under current policy), so you can go back at any time. I quit WoW for five months and all of my characters were just as i'd left them. I recently quit again and expect that if I ever want to go back to the horrible world of daily raids on MC/BWL/TAQ and eventually Naxx/Draenor, I could. But I don't plan on it. T
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does not conflict with
This account creation process is only available to customers in North America, New Zealand, Australia, and Singapore.
It is U.S. soil, but it is not in North America.
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Talking of North Korea.. (Score:2)
Strange!
"Avatar Racism" (Score:3, Interesting)
WoW in in combat zones. (Score:3, Interesting)
For those people that lived/worked on Iraqi bases the Internet connections there were pretty much unmonitored/unfiltered and allowed everything through.
I also have to say I've seen Morale network drives too... When I was there last summer the music directory was 195gb and the movies and videos topped 300gb... this is on a NIPR military LAN too. I think the leadership looked the other way 'til the filesever blew up December. I don't know if it exists anymore.
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Same thing vice versa, George Bush (Jr.) doesn't represent the opinion of the WHOLE population of the U.S., just the elites who ignore public opinion.
Re:Isn't It Funny.. (Score:3, Insightful)
Not really. When you compare it to other things, you are more likley to die in a car accident or slipping in your shower.
Chances are Iran would never be able to nuke us. I'd be more concerned if we attacked Iran and then Russia and China decided to declare war on us for no good reason.
They have ICBM's that can hit every city in the US. Iran can barley hit Europe.
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But by and large the teens in Iran don't seem to like their government.
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Lately its down to about 33% of Americans...and falling.
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Its about as funny as seeing America enjoying the oil coming from Iran, Syria, Iraq and the like, nations who the US have declared their resolve to destroy.
Actually, the US didn't import oil from Iraq (aside from an "oil for food" program instituted by the UN) between 1990 and 2003. Since 2003, the US has been occupying and rebuilding Iraq. As for Iran, there's been a full embargo against Iran (including oil) since 1979. The Bush administration has never expressed a desire to go to war with Syria. In co
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I suppose it depends on the amount of sabre rattling you equate with a desire to go to war. There's certainly been threats along those lines - way back to the famous "Rogue States" speech before 9/11 telling them all to watch out and get ready to fight, as well as the more recent "axis of evil" and the threats to Syria after the first stages of the Iraq occupation when they were accused of hiding the WMD for Saddam. There's been
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