Internet2 Gets a New Backbone 175
wrong_fuel writes "A few of you know that Internet2 and NLR (National Lambda Rail) have been in talks for some time regarding a merger of the two networks. Those talks have fallen apart and Internet2's contracts with Qwest communications had already been allowed to lapse. Internet2 has now reached an agreement with an unnamed carrier for its next generation backbone. The new network will likely be named later this year (the old one was referred to as "Abilene") and current member Universities will be migrated off of Abilene by September 2007."
odds on.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Unnamed provider (Score:0, Interesting)
Would the new bill apply to any internetwork? (Score:2, Interesting)
For reference.
I'm wondering. Would the bill apply to Internet2? Would it apply to any IP based network? Obviously not all IP networks are The Internet. At what point could educational establishments along with sympathetic corportations like Google and sites like slashdot start their own internetwork and leave the tiered internet crowd without google, ebay, amazon or any of the geeks who actually make the internet an interesting place to be? Wouldn't customers sign up for google's internet rather than at&t's?
Would the law apply to the new internetwork?Internet2 the internet of the future certa 1996 (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm all for advancing these new technologys, but too often it is forgotten that portions of the population can't even subscribe to an aging technology.
The digital divide is still alive and well unfortunally.
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If I had to wager a bet, I'd say that it's probably Level 3, based on their nationwide network and tremendous capacity capability since the whole thing is deployed in conduits
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Re:Internet2 the internet of the future certa 1996 (Score:3, Interesting)
The technology to do so already exists. The barrier is an economic one.
Re:I have to say... (Score:3, Interesting)
Sigh. Life is hard.
Re:odds on.. (Score:4, Interesting)
Yes useless trivia but that is my roll in life...
-S
Re:Internet2 the internet of the future certa 1996 (Score:4, Interesting)
Otherwise please tell me how Japan managed their 100mbit/1gbit fiber to their users or if you want to bore us with the "but but Japan is much smaller and that can't be done in the USA" myth, then explain how Sweden - a huge country with relatively low population count - managed to get fibre to even small villages god knows where (A friend of mine in Sweden has fiber in a village of 500 people and according to him its not an exceptional thing).
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Sorry if this is getting offtopic.
Re:Internet2 the internet of the future certa 1996 (Score:2, Interesting)
Regards,
Steve
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If that happens, and the common carriers start charging different online companies special fees for carrying their traffic, then it'd certainly be in Google's best interest to send as much data around on their own network, and avoid the telco's lines as much as possible. And even further down the line, after all the consumers are pissed off about how much the cable companies have messed up our internet, Google can be the one to finally start rolling out that fiber to the home we've all been hearing so much about, create their own isp that respects network neutrality, and steal a whole bunch of marketshare from the jerkass telecos.
Why do Universities join Internet2? (Score:5, Interesting)
It costs at least $300,000 minimum per year to join Internet2. The fees are as follows:
$30,000 Internet2 Membership fee (http://members.internet2.edu/Member-Dues.html [internet2.edu])
$220,000 Abilene Membership fee for OC-12 (http://abilene.internet2.edu/community/fees/inde
Additional fees are assessed depending on which GigaPop you would be connected to (http://eng.internet2.edu/gigapoplist.html [internet2.edu]). The quote I had to become a member with one Gigapop was approximately $75,000 an year, plus local loop costs.
It's very difficult for us, and probably most Universities, to justify spending over $300,000 a year to become a member of Internet2. Until Internet2 can be better managed and lower costs, I do not foresee Internet2 becoming popular anytime soon.
Re:No, it's not. (Score:3, Interesting)
Now explain to me why, in even the most densely populated U.S. cities, the fastest available residential broadband is 3MB DSL or 5MB cable, and you cant't get any broadband for less than $55/month (total cost- those $29.99/month DSL packages you can get from your local phone company don't count because you can only get them if you are spending at least $35 a month on your phone bill.)
Hmmm?
I'd believe your arguments if the biggest U.S. cities had broadband access equivalent to Japan or Sweden or any number of other countries, but even in the areas that are comparable, we're years behind.