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Sun's Scott McNealy's Days are Numbered? 104

alek writes "The Wall Street Journal writes 'Dusk could be near for Sun's McNealy' where they conjecture that the founder and and CEO of Sun Microsystems might be leaving soon. They suggest that the return of former CFO Michael Lehman and and a more active Board pressing for improved performance could result in COO Jonathan Schwartz taking over the top job. We've heard stories like this for years but Scott has hung in there for a long time - his response to the WSJ was 'That rumor is about 22 years old and still chuggin.'"
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Sun's Scott McNealy's Days are Numbered?

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 20, 2006 @11:37AM (#15165238)
    I think that speculation actually started on slashdot a few years back in this thread [slashdot.org]. Kleiner Perkins companies have long been known to buy each other out to save each other -- even long after they went public (consider Netscape/AOL) - and Google's seed money did come from a Sun founder (Bechtolsheim).


    People always talk of Microsoft vs Google or MSFT vs Sun or MSFT vs Netscape for MSFT vs AOL - but they rarely realize that it's always been Microsoft vs Kleiner Perkins Caufield and Byers [kpcb.com] where all these companies (Sun, Electronic Arts, AOL, Google, Netscape) are all at heart part of KPCB's portfolio and act more similarily to divisions of microsoft than separate entities.

  • by gentimjs ( 930934 ) on Thursday April 20, 2006 @11:54AM (#15165394) Journal
    I know he isnt popular with the /. crowd, but Schwartz -IS- popular with the Fortune500 CEO crowd... I've seen the guy work a room, he comes across very charismatically (way WAY more than McNealy ever has) and the dumb PHB/CxO types seem to really take an interest in what he's saying.
    Now, I'm no fanboy of either one, but McNealy is probably better suited to chair thier R&D or something than he is to being CEO these days. Schwartz at least would put a more energetic face on the company and (one could hope) re-vitalize thier core competancies.
    Now, I know im dreaming, but maybe of McNealy got out of the top slot, Sun could/would FINALLY ditch thier 4000% margin policy and start selling crap that I (me personally, or the company I work for) could actually afford to buy!
  • by gentimjs ( 930934 ) on Thursday April 20, 2006 @12:33PM (#15165767) Journal
    Ive talked with Schwartz about this semi-directly (in a webchat of about 15 people), and explained that all the sun (specifically, all the sparc) hardware me and my company own is -all- purchased second hand off of ebay. Servers and desktops. The prices are simply too high. He seemed to understand, and pointed out that from his desk the big challenge was developing a sub-$1000 sparc system to the economy-of-scale where they could make cash from it enough to justify the investment. I can understand this, but I really would like to see them take the concept they started with the SB1500/2500 where they were pc-ish systems that just happened to be sparc. What I'd -really- like to see is a Sparc powered desktop (Fujitsu Sparc64 VI anyone?) with a pci-express subsystem, ddr2 ram, sata, and the capability to take "off the shelf" pc componants (like vid card, and such) .... but I know im dreaming :-(
    Schwartz did seem to get the point that developing a "whitebox" market would be a good thing. I'm wondering what/who has held him back?
  • by drix ( 4602 ) on Thursday April 20, 2006 @01:03PM (#15166081) Homepage
    Sun is trading at $5 a share, time to buy? or forgeddaboudit!?

    Now's the time to decide--earnings call is on Monday. There are some credible rumors floating around that this will be the first profitable quarter in years. Sun's really revamped their product line in the last 16 months (AMD, Niagara, etc.) and in their last 10-K they mentioned they were actually having a hard time meeting demand. (Apropos the original story, there's also speculation that this would be an ideal note for McNealy to end his career on.)

    If they do end up back in the black, every analyst and his brother will be on CNBC Tuesday morning shouting "Turned the corner!" and I think it would cause some major institutional buyers to jump back in. Unlike the run-up last month which got subsequently iced due to profit taking, the big guys would be in it for the long haul, creating a new support. $5.50 or maybe even $6? I haven't done the math.

    And I feel like this possiblity hasn't been fully capitalized in to the current price--I'm really surprised how little talk there is about SUNW on the boards, newswires, or the Street. A lot of people seem to have written it off as a sad relic of the dot-com era. I think they're missing out on two key points: 1) how revolutionary and unique these new UltraSparc T1s are, especially for those serving up huge amounts of online content (ie everyone) or who are worried about energy costs (ie everyone), and 2) how much brand equity "Sun Microsystems" carries among a whole generation of 25+ year old geeks who grew up worshipping that awesome UltraSparc workstation in the server room/lab/etc (like everyone at Google, for one.)

    To the extent that it's even possible nowadays, I feel like SUNW has been slipping under the radar for the last couple months.

    P.S. I am quite obviously long on this stock, so if course it's in my best interest to convince you of all this :-)
  • Scott never gives up (Score:4, Interesting)

    by AlexOsadzinski ( 221254 ) on Thursday April 20, 2006 @01:34PM (#15166406) Homepage
    I worked for Sun for 7 years, some of that time at VP level, so I got to know Scott, and work with/for him. He taught me an important lesson: never, ever, give up. There were at least two occasions when I was sent out to fight "hopeless" battles for Sun against the arrayed masses of competition. He pushed hard to not give up in the face of impossible odds, and we won.

    He never gives up.

    It's very easy to armchair quarterback what Sun and Scott have been doing this past decade or so. Whenever I find myself wondering why my SUNW shares aren't worth a tenth of what I paid for them, I'm tempted to think of how I could run the company better than Scott. And then I realize that my puny mind can't come up with anything. The company generates cash, employs a lot of people and satisfies a lot of customers. Scott's never been afraid to remake the company (I lived through the transition from technical workstations to commercial servers and that was quite something), but there's only so much that you can do.

    I have no clue what's going on inside the company now but, of one thing I'm sure: if Scott does step aside, it's because he thinks that it's the best thing for the company. He's given everything to it for over 20 years, and could easily have taken the "go lie on a beach" path years and years ago.
  • by Znork ( 31774 ) on Thursday April 20, 2006 @01:37PM (#15166443)
    'how much brand equity "Sun Microsystems" carries among a whole generation of 25+ year old geeks'

    Unfortunately, most of that brand equity has been eaten away by half a decade during which you'd rather be compiling on your desktop than on the server, and trying to answer embarrasing questions why the devs get better performance out of their java code on their laptop than on the expensive app server.

    You know, five years ago those 25+ yearers would form a queue when machines got decommissioned and handed out. These days you'd have to pay people to take them.

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