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Apple Releases Bonjour for Windows 1.0.3 195

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MacDailyNews is reporting that Apple has released Bonjour for Windows 1.0.3. From the article: "Bonjour, also known as zero-configuration networking, enables automatic discovery of computers, devices, and services on IP networks. Bonjour uses industry standard IP protocols to allow devices to automatically discover each other without the need to enter IP addresses or configure DNS servers."
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Apple Releases Bonjour for Windows 1.0.3

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  • Gosh (Score:5, Funny)

    by amazon10x (737466) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @03:26PM (#15159632)
    I didn't know anyone still used Windows 1.0
  • Hello (Score:2, Funny)

    by mysqlrocks (783488)
    Let me be the first to say, "Hello" to our new, uh, wait, never-mind... (ducks)
  • wow (Score:3, Funny)

    by larry bagina (561269) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @03:33PM (#15159711) Journal
    from TFA:

    Installing Bonjour: Double-click the Bonjour installer and follow the onscreen instructions.

    Thanks, I never would have thought of that.

  • by n6kuy (172098) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @03:39PM (#15159772)
    I've already said Bonjour to Windows...
  • How does Bonjour compare to Univeral Plug-n-Play (besides probably being more secure, given UPnP's reputation)?

    Is UPnP widely used already, and if so could Bonjour ever gain any traction in the Windows market?

    • most printers support bonjour (i.e. rendezvous v2 ) and all itunes clients and their clones do as well. Limewire and a ton of linux clients use it with DAAP to access itunes shares.
    • How does Bonjour compare to Univeral Plug-n-Play (besides probably being more secure, given UPnP's reputation)?

      It's much more hip and cool. And it smokes French cigarettes.
    • Re:Bonjour vs UPnP (Score:5, Informative)

      by Rosyna (80334) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @04:08PM (#15160057) Homepage
      In Bonjour, application developers describe the service used. For UPnP, The UPnP forum creates the profiles. If a profile doesn't exist, you must wait for the UPnP forum to create it. There appears to be a list of them here [upnp.org].

      For example, there does not appear to be a profile for something like iChat (Internet Chat), Xcode (Distributed Computing), or Font Sharing. Yet Bonjour enables both of these since the standards bodies do not limit the services.
    • Short Answer: Bonjour doesn't compare to Univeral Plug-n-Play

      Bonjour compares to NetBIOS-over-TCP/IP (aka NBT aka "Workgroups") ... ie it's a broadcast protocol that finds printers and other services on your local subnet.

      Unless you are using something Apple-specific like iTunes, most apps already use NBT.
    • Microsoft is replacing UPNP with a thing called WS-Discovery in Vista. So, lucky you if you used UPNP, you get to rewrite your app!

      If you use Bonjour, you just replace the Bonjour library with this new one.
  • Not very useful (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Smack (977)
    I don't see the point of this. The stuff is already built into the Apple Windows products.

    It would be nice if it was an actual zeroconf windows client, with Samba support or something. But it's not.

  • From the article..

    Bonjour for Windows includes a plugin to discover advertised HTTP servers using Internet Explorer.

    uhh, no thanks...

    • by nsayer (86181)
      Ha ha.

      Actually, it's incredibly useful. There are a boatload of appliances that you plug into your network nowadays that have web servers built-in to them. For instance, everybody has a firewall/NAT appliance nowadays. What if you got to the configuration page simply by finding it in a menu in your browser rather than having to either guess or look up the default IP address?
  • sort of like Jini, only non-portable and a few years later?
  • Monsieur ScuttleMonkey!
  • Has anyone written a simple guide for how to get Bonjour working on Linux?

    By "working", I mean I want to be able to telnet machine.local or ping machine.local like I can on OS X...
    • A lot of the usefulness bonjour (zeroconf/whatever) provides that the user sees must be provided in the applications themselves. The underlying protocol that allows apps to advertise they provide, say, "httpd" -- and allows other apps to request a list of .local address that provide a given service -- won't do squat for the user unless apache and firefox (etc) add code to make use of it.

      That said, last time I looked into this (last year, but fairly intently) the protocol is available on Linux that allow ma

      • A lot of the usefulness bonjour (zeroconf/whatever) provides that the user sees must be provided in the applications themselves.


        I know, but I'd like at least ssh, ping, traceroute etc. to work.



        They all work on OS X, and I don't imagine Apple has written special code for all of them. Instead, they just get the DNS resolver to work for Bonjour addresses as well as regular DNS.



        That's what I want to do for Linux.

  • Buh... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by obeythefist (719316) on Wednesday April 19, 2006 @08:38PM (#15161615) Journal
    This is amazing. Am I the only guy here who actually likes controlling his network in an orderly and well managed manner?

    Maybe, just maybe, I don't want devices jumping onto my network and configuring themselves any way they like.
  • A link to the actual Bonjour product page at Apple.com [apple.com] would've been helpful.
  • by Nice2Cats (557310) on Thursday April 20, 2006 @04:02AM (#15163266)
    At the risk of sounding like Ellen Fleiss here, Bonjour was one of the things that got me hooked on Apple. We have just about every type of OS at home -- Windows XP, OS X, Gentoo Linux -- and I'm used to endless fooling around to get a network running. So when I went over to set up my parents' new iMacs, connected with one of those little AirPort Express bricks, I was expecting to spend most of the day. Well, no. I give the Macs their names, I set up the network data on the AirPort, and, wham, that was it, printer and all. My first thought is, holy shit, how do they do that? My second thought is, think of all the time I've wasted. My third thought is, man, it would be a real bummer if I were to loose my homework while I'm stoned...

    I tried it at home with the various machines there, but Bonjour for Windows sucked (only worked for printers anyway) and Linux, well, isn't there yet (I'm wondering if that shouldn't be an acronym: LITY. I seem to be using it a lot since I switched to a Mac).

    This is a technology that should be everywhere and one you seriously don't want to be without once you have seen it (the other is Spotlight -- I'm never going to use a desktop machine again that doesn't have live searching). If you have a chance to use it, go for it.

  • Zero Configuration software that you have to install and configure... is not zero configuration.

    Unless this ships with Vista (complete with zero conf viruses) this wonderful technology will fail to help the people that need it... noobs. For sys admins and geeks this technology is like code completion, a time saver not an enabler. I guess our one, last hope is that it will be sneaked in with iTunes for Windows (hell they seem to get away with it for Quicktime), but then there is probably something a little a

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