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Hey Oracle, Why Not Ubuntu? 234

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OSS_ilation writes "While much has been said about Novell or Red Hat as potential targets for Oracle this week, there are some in the Linux community who believe a different distro might deserve the attention of Larry Ellison. That distribution is Ubuntu, and analysts like Burton Group's Richard Monson-Haefel believed that it would be a better fit for Oracle, which is looking only for an OS and not for any of the baggage associated with Novell, like Netware. Ubuntu, with its huge community base and version 6.06 on the way, could be the perfect fit, he said."
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Hey Oracle, Why Not Ubuntu?

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  • Ubuntu? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Lxy (80823) on Tuesday April 18, 2006 @01:07PM (#15150576) Journal
    Why not just use Debian, which is the base for Ubuntu? Then you get no corporate overhead.
  • And (Score:3, Informative)

    by WebHostingGuy (825421) * on Tuesday April 18, 2006 @01:18PM (#15150709) Homepage Journal
    The other thing to realize is that now that SUSE was bought by Novell it "corporate". Ubuntu is not. Once something because a corporate item it is perfectly acceptable for other corporations to buy it. But even if the product is very similiar and is not corporate; they will shy away.
  • Re:Ubuntu? (Score:3, Informative)

    by moro_666 (414422) <{moc.liamg} {ta} {rotaanimluk}> on Tuesday April 18, 2006 @01:37PM (#15150898) Homepage
    you work a lot with databases don't you ?

    well i work with various opensource rdbms implementations here every day,
    90% of the time only on cli since anything else would be just overhead.
    but then again, most of the time i work on rather small projects.

    but sometimes when you've got an oracle db with over 100 tables and uncountable
    amount of foreign keys, triggers, store procedures, the cli just doesn't cut
    it anymore. you need visualization just to understand the 25 things that you're
    about to break with that next line.

    i've worked with database schemes that are too large to fit on an A2 paper,
    there's no way that you can get an overview of it's current state in cli.

    you may think that oracle will just ship out it's db on nongui stations with
    remote access, so anyone that needs a gui will use some kind of remote management
    tool and everybody would be happy ? this aint going to happen, this would just
    cramp oracle's style. they gui everything, gui is what also sells the product.
    and oracle certainly would also like to charge money for the linux boxes around
    the server box for running their gui tools on them...

    so no-gui is not an answer, at least not for oracle.

    it may be an answer to mysql and posgresql ... you hardly ever need a gui on
    a raw gentoo server which just runs your db backend ... but with oracle it's never
    as simple as that (ffs. you'd need the gui just to run their java based installer).

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 18, 2006 @01:51PM (#15151024)
    This is no longer true with Oracle XE. Oracle XE comes in as native RPM and Debian packages and can be installed and ready to run in 5 minutes. Little administration is required. Also, it comes with Application Express which is a completely Web-based rapid application development (RAD) environment.

    See http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database /xe/index.html [oracle.com].

    BTW, there is an Oracle XE repository available. See http://frits.homelinux.com/wordpress/?p=9&SID=5031 C9559A765B126EE6BB19BBA6CBE3 [homelinux.com]
  • by jwocky (900748) on Tuesday April 18, 2006 @02:43PM (#15151505)
    installing oracle on debian/ubuntu is about the easiest thing ever:

    add following lines to /etc/apt/sources.list file:
    deb http://oss.oracle.com/debian/ [oracle.com] unstable main non-free
    deb-src http://oss.oracle.com/debian/ [oracle.com] unstable main

    #apt-get update

    # apt-get install oracle-xe-universal

    # /etc/init.d/oracle-xe configure

    it runs like a dream on my ubuntu box.

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