Slashdot Bookmarks 171
The idea is that URLs are bookmarked, either using the javascript bookmarklett thingee or by directly visiting the bookmarks page. But when you are DONE bookmarking and tagging your URL, you can then write a journal or story submission about them. On a related note, journals are now directly submittable to Slashdot editors as well.
We plan to add RSS exporting as well as a few other features, but mostly what we're going to try to do is figure out ways to mine bookmarks for stories. You can best help by tagging bookmarks on the global bookmarks pages. This is all very experimental, so your help is appreciated.
Now as always on Slashdot we appreciate your feedback and bug reports. You can do this the slashdot SF project page. Or even better you could visit the site and consider submitting patches. Ideas are never in short supply here- time to code them all ALWAYS is. Join the mailing list! Or just start bookmarking and tagging stuff. Lastly, thanks to Tim Vroom who put all of this together.
update to clarify a point for the readers- this system is primarily an extension of our submission bin. You are welcome to bookmark & tag for your own pleasure, but our intent is that this system eventually be used to help us find content for the mainpage. So of course the functionality has overlap with other sites. No huge shock there. But our intentions is to use user bookmarks & tags as another input channel for editors picking stories for the audience.
Let me be the first (Score:4, Funny)
to say that I'm glad dupe and spell check have been added.
Re:Let me be the first (Score:5, Funny)
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Google Bookmarks (Score:5, Informative)
Just seems like a nice way for a site to get it's users to index the internet for it..
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:2, Insightful)
But it has TAGS! They're like meta keywords but they're totally Web 2.0ified with scriptaculity!
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:2)
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:1)
So true.
Speaking of tags, is it just me, or are tags on Slashdot stories just a complete indictment of the whole idea? They're like a craptacular subset of the actual story (the words in tags almost always exist in the story), harkening back to the days when we weren't capable of properly searching data [yafla.com], so we had to rely upon terrible tags.
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:3, Informative)
You seem to have completely missed the point. Tags aren't an alternative to text searches. They're an alternative to conventional categorization [shirky.com]. Meta tag overloading isn't really a problem in most tag system implementations, and by the success of del.icio.us, it seems to be a very effective organizational system for web content. You can still do a text search on the collection, but tags give a more intuitive way of grouping related articles together using the benefits of folksonomy, which increase with the
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:2)
If you did understand what purpose tags were designed to serve, then you wouldn't be making the argument that text-searches obsolete the use of tags. And you have yet to suggest a better way to categorize/group virtual content that would be more effective than the use of folksonomic tags.
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:2)
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Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:2)
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:2)
I would say that at this point there's nothing you can do or try to do that Google hasn't done or is planning to do.
All betas, of course.
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:2)
No idea about delic.ous, but I don't think google or yahoo bookmarks are used for as content delivery outside of themselves, are they?
I mean, I just crawled out of bed and haven't had my first coffee of cup yet; but I can't be the only person who read that part of taco's blurb, can I?
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:2)
(the idea behind tags remains a mystery, however)
Basically, this sounds like a mash-up between del.icio.us and Digg.
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:2)
Consider your audience. Yes. Yes you can.
Re:Google Bookmarks (Score:2)
Blog ? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Blog ? (Score:5, Funny)
Bah, you don't get it, do you? This is all about MINDSHARE! After Mindshare you get Innovation. And, after Innovation, you get Web Traffic. And, after Web Traffic, you get Dupes!
It may not make sense now, but one day, young grasshopper, you will understand. Now, where did I put my percosets?
Re:Blog ? (Score:2)
Re:Blog ? (Score:2)
In the second drawer, next to the oxycontin and xanax.
You should try harder to remember these things.
Re:Blog ? (Score:2)
Slashdot is a blog.
http://slashdot.org/about.shtml [slashdot.org]
Redundancy (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Redundancy (Score:4, Funny)
http:///..org (Score:2, Insightful)
Slashdot's domain name is intended to represent stuttering: "http colon slash-slash-slash dot-dot org". How is this significantly less annoying than del.icio.us?
Re:http:///..org (Score:2)
Re:http:///..org (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:Redundancy (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Redundancy (Score:2)
Re:Redundancy (Score:2)
Tinypic is a terrible website, and why is Flickr useless just because there's another image-hosting site out there? Should there only be one webhost, one internet messageboard, one news site, etc. on the internet? Does Tinypic have the same features/functionality as Flickr? Similarly, blogs don't serve the same purpose as forums, not even close. You're oversimplifying the purpose of these sites to fit your narrow perception of the web. Just because two sites have similarities doesn't mean that one precludes
Re:Nonsense (Score:2)
Then why did you claim that Tinypic precludes the usefulness of Flickr? Your entire argument has been: there's already something that is (slightly) similar, so there's no purpose for X.
Yea, just li
Re:Group Blog(web2.0 for forum) Named Slashdot (Score:2)
What's ironic about posting that here? Slashdot isn't running a modified version of phpBB. Slashcode is a specialized CMS designed for newsites that facilitates threaded discussions and a unique peer moderation system. The forum-like aspect of the site is but a small part of the code.
Re:Group Blog(web2.0 for forum) Named Slashdot (Score:2)
i can't
understand your
broken
sentences.
it might
help
if you
stay
on topic
instead of
going off
on random
tangents to avoid
responding
to my
arguments.
OK, that's really annoying.
Re:Group Blog(web2.0 for forum) Named Slashdot (Score:2)
Yes/no questions are not ambiguous. You simply chose to dance around the issue with tenuous similarities instead of just admiting that they are disimilar applications. Maybe you should learn how to give straight-forward responses instead of persisting to argue a moot point and then getting angry when you are confronted with the inherent fallacies of your argument.
Clearly a forum cannot be used for all web applications, and not all web applications can be reduced to a modified messageboard. Yet when I demon
Re:Group Blog(web2.0 for forum) Named Slashdot (Score:2)
The ability to modify a messageboard and add features from other web applications to it is due to the fact that they are, in fact, web applications, and are coded in similar languages with similar features (which does not mean that PHP is redundant because ASP exists). It doesn't mean everything on the web is reducible to a messageboard--which you are claiming again, even though earlier you denied making such claims.
You can add any desktop application feature to a BitTorrent client--does that mean that all
Re:Group Blog(web2.0 for forum) Named Slashdot (Score:2)
No, I didn't stop drowning puppies, because I never started drowning them to begin with. Your question relied on a false premise, but I can still respond yes or no, even without further clarification. I didn't answer your question because it was irrelevant--as are most of your statements:
Saying that a CMS and a forum can both be database driven is completely irrelevant to whether one can be appropriately substituted for the other. Mentioning that you can send pictures using DCC sends has nothing to do with
Re:Group Blog(web2.0 for forum) Named Slashdot (Score:2)
That explains your oversimplistic views of various web applications.
Even if someone added every possible web browser feature to a particular BitTorrent client, that does not demonstrate that a web browser is just a modified BitTorrent client. IE, Firefox, Opera, etc. are equivalent applications which can be appropriately substituted for one another. But simply being able to add browser features to another applicat
Re:Group Blog(web2.0 for forum) Named Slashdot (Score:2)
Re:Group Blog(web2.0 for forum) Named Slashdot (Score:2)
Why do I begin?
What does any of this have to do with the discussion?
We're talking about the functionality of local bookmarks, not what you can do with a network drive, or a free webho
Re:Group Blog(web2.0 for forum) Named Slashdot (Score:2)
Your browser doesn't provide features such as link-sharing, or tagging, therefore, it is not a substitute for del.icio.us or Slashdot bookmarks. Whether you like those features or not is irrelevant. Local bookmarks don't provide those features, del.icio.us and Slashdot bookmarks do.
And how is carrying around a floppy on your person at all times more convenient than simply accessing Slashdot? That argument is even more half-baked. It simply demonstrates the need for bookmark-sharing sites since local bookma
Re:Redundancy (Score:2)
Good or bad, right or wrong, I use slashdot, I've only looked at del.icio.us.
I'm a mobile computer user, and I'm in the market for an online bookmark service. Unfortunately, I'm happy with Safari's bookmarking features. Apple-D a nice menu comes down asking for the title of the bookmark, and which folder I want to put it under. DND bookmarking is possible, and then putting the bookmarks into the top of th
Does interoperate with Safari (Score:2)
That's not the point... (Score:3, Insightful)
You don't get it.
CmdrTaco:
But when you are DONE bookmarking and tagging your URL, you can then write a journal or story submission about them. On a related note, journals are now directly submittable to Slashdot editors as well.
The point is not to replace sites like del.icio.us, but to use a system similar to del.icio.us as an alternative way of submitting links/stories/etc to the editors for po
Great New Idea! (Score:5, Funny)
This is absolutely del.icio.us!!
http://religiousfreaks.com/ [religiousfreaks.com]Re:Great New Idea! (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Great New Idea! (Score:1)
Re:Great New Idea! (Score:2)
Hey, man, you might as well just suggest that we cross the streams [imdb.com]
Re:Great New Idea! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Great New Idea! (Score:2)
Stromcode - AJAX: Building a Spy
source: del.icio.us
posted: 04/13/2006 05:03AM
AJAX: How to make your own Spy page
source: digg
posted: 04/13/2006 05:31PM
Re:Great New Idea! (Score:2)
Why diggdot.us?
Digg, slashdot, and del.icio.us- this is a constant browsing cycle for us. So why not combine them into a unified format without all the extra chrome? We can eliminate dupes and add some extra niceities. [emphasis added]
Re:Great New Idea! (Score:3, Insightful)
Yes! Choice and competition are bad and evil! While we're at it, we should get rid of Firefox for splintering the web browser market.
Re:Great New Idea! (Score:4, Insightful)
I Can Dig It (Score:1, Informative)
Suggestion (Score:5, Insightful)
* Digg links gain popularity through votes. It seems
* Digg's whole site is based on link popularity. Slashdot has article posts still moderated by humans. The bookmarks are simply another source of information.
* Slashdot has a community of people who flag each other as friends and foes, read each others' journals, etc. Digg is full of only random meaningless comments.
Re:Suggestion (Score:3, Interesting)
It's been dugg (Score:1)
Re:It's been dugg (Score:3, Informative)
wrong board
marked as spam
On
Wow (Score:2, Funny)
Benefits (Score:5, Insightful)
Not just big! (Score:3, Interesting)
Tags? (Score:2)
I've seen them for about a day when they were first introduced, after that they are gone. What happened to them?
(and yes, I've got them enabled in my preferences)
Re:Tags? (Score:2)
Re:Tags? (Score:2)
The bug is on slashdot's side.
-b
Re:Tags? (Score:1)
However, I'm not sure if they're working very well, since at April Fool's, a lot of tags where saying "gay!" and "straight" instead of informative tags. So you're not really missing out
Re:Tags? (Score:1)
Re:Tags? (Score:2)
Our intent so far has been to only let the users who have tag-writing permission see the tags on stories. At some point we'll open it up to everyone, but for now it's still a closed beta.
Re:Tags? (Score:2)
Re:Tags? (Score:2)
(when it was only open to subscribers, it read differently :)
This needs a better name. (Score:5, Funny)
Your wrong ... (Score:2)
Slash.icio.us? (Score:1, Redundant)
I use del.icio.us because it's easy and it works, plus there's already a ton of relevant links to find anytime I'm doing research on something (it's far more tageted and 'prescreened' than google) so I could see it as a natural extention of the
Re:Slash.icio.us? (Score:2)
Re:Slash.icio.us? (Score:2)
it's not my site, I can't create a subdomain for them, the provided URL was merely an example or a suggestion if you will.
Your plan is in the wrong order.
how so? I am suggesting an idea that makes more sence, and again, as I'm not the site owner of del.icio.us (or more specifically icio.us) or Slashdot I have no way of independantly implementing such changes. I fail to see what other ord
Re:Slash.icio.us? (Score:2)
To CmdrTaco (Score:2, Interesting)
Just give us back our occasional mod points, and maybe explain what we did wrong which caused them to be taken away in the first place.
And also, could you please add a place where we can discuss this very sort of thing
Re:To CmdrTaco (Score:2)
This site depends on its users. I'm a user. You're supposed to listen to me.
The owners of a web site can ignore their users. This isn't a public service. Taco isn't your elected representative. You're not entitled to anything. If you don't like it, don't whine about it. Just leave.
Re:To CmdrTaco (Score:2, Insightful)
Brilliant attitude. Then nothing is ever improved. Whining--or, more accurately, constructive criticism--leads to positive change if it's listened to.
Re:To CmdrTaco (Score:2)
Re:To CmdrTaco (Score:2)
Hear, hear. Some of us lost moderation privileges in a dumb moderation war [slashdot.org] four years ago. We get the point now; we're sorry we moderated that comment, and we promise not to do it again. We've had four years to think our faults through. We're loyal and value-producing slashdot members. Can we be treated like that again, please?
Re:To CmdrTaco (Score:2)
I know this is a little late now, but maybe we should usetrolltalk [slashdot.org]? It wouldn't require any action from the editors, and it'd piss the trolls off. Two birds with one stone! I'll remember to repost this suggestion next time this comes up. I bet Taco would be in favour of this too!
Holy Web 2.0 Batman! (Score:2)
Re:Holy Web 2.0 Batman! (Score:2)
I have an idea (Score:2)
Re:I have an idea (Score:4, Informative)
You can change this in your preferences, under "Homepage." I use the "Sun Mar 21, '99 10:00 AM" setting myself.
Public vs. private bookmarking (Score:3, Insightful)
Top 10 bookmarks (Score:5, Funny)
lemon party (Score:2)
Wait a minute... (Score:4, Funny)
Should help reduce dupes (Score:2)
Ideally this'll be set up so when an editor goes into the submission bin stories are grouped according to the relationship they have to each other (5 stories pointing to the same link, for instance) and the best one can be chosen. Later if any other stories come in it will show that the link has already been used, and they can either be rejected or put aside for the occasional slashdot follow up link story.
In the end, this is a feature for the editors, not a general bookmarking service.
-Adam
Feature request (Score:4, Insightful)
Give us some power over our own work please. Some of us work like Slashdot editors, with a tendency toward dupes and typos.
This is old! (Score:2)
Submitter must be pretty badly out of the loop.
Bah! (Score:2)
Edit? Delete? (Score:2)
Usefullness/Feature Request... (Score:4, Interesting)
Also, how are "Popular" bookmarks figured out? By the number of people bookmarking the same site, or by the number of people following the link?
--Donald
Easy Bookmarking (Score:2)
A really nice UI would add a "Slashdot bookmark" item to the right-click context menu, so I can add any link to that box by right-clicking and selecting that item.
Re:Change this also...... (Score:2)
Except that you'll end up with a series of comments that don't make a lot of sense until you wade through them all to the end, and have to go back and read them all again.
...
Why would you make hundreds of changes before checking it out anyway? How would you know which change caused your table to move too far to the right?
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It's not trivial if you're a student, trying to save mon
Re:Here are a couple of bookmarks for ya (Score:2)
Actually, that would make for a very interesting documentary. My guess is that anybody attempting this experiment will be tossed into a Mexican prison on relatively short order.
Re:Here are a couple of bookmarks for ya (Score:2)