Ask Apache Software Chairman Greg Stein 117
Here's a man who obviously has his finger on the pulse of open source software development. I mean, who hasn't heard of Apache? His work history is interesting, too: He's moved from Microsoft to CollabNet to Google. And he's not shy about speaking his mind about open source, as shown in this ZDNet blog entry. Please try to confine yourself to one question per post. (If you have more than one question, post more than once.) We'll send 10 of the highest-moderated questions to Greg tomorrow and run his answers when we get them back.
untethered computing (Score:4, Interesting)
What are your thoughts on Apache's direction in regards to the new roaming AJAX desktops [slashdot.org] we keep hearing about -- what are some of the limitations you foresee in the overall untethered computing experience?
Kind Regards,
Scotty
Why... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Why... (Score:2)
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Re:Blog entry (Score:2)
I'd be a lot more concerned about the software for the laser-equipped sharks.
Why Java? (Score:5, Interesting)
I use http but thats about it. I have looked at the other Apache software but always been offputting to have to set up Java with all the classpaths etc.
Whats wrong with C or C++? Its portable and easy to install and run.
This isnt a troll, although it might look like one....
Re:Why Java? (Score:2)
Re:Why Java? (Score:1)
Re:Why Java? (Score:1)
The classpath thing (Score:2)
On the flipside, I've never found native stuff to be all that easy. Sure if you are running Linux x86 then most stuff just compiles out of the box, but try compiling oss stuff on windows, or perhaps trying to get an oss library to run on an embedded platform - it can be a royal pain in the ass. My experience suggests that third party libraries are a pain in C unless you work with them at source level - try get
Re:Why Java? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Why Java? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Why Java? (Score:1)
Thumbs up- and.... (Score:2)
-M
Apache 1.x vs. 2.x (Score:5, Informative)
Open Source (Score:2, Interesting)
Do you believe that open source projects should always remain in the public domain- ie. that no open source projects should turn commercial?
Re:Open Source (Score:2)
Most open source projects are NOT public domain since they retain the copyright of the authors.
Re:Open Source (Score:2)
Business Sense? (Score:3, Insightful)
Does he also predict that in 5-10 years most software development position will be gone or significantly value reduced the also?
The obvious answer is no, the market will find a balance between free and non-free business models to support further development. Some one has to pay the developers to put bread on the table. Someone has to pay the advertisers to get the word out about the project. Someone has to pay the management to keep the project on task and schedule.
-Rick
Cleaned up for actual question (Score:5, Interesting)
-Rick
Re:Business Sense? (Score:2)
It appears he is predicting that mainstream, commercial software development will be significantly reduced with open-source alternatives taking their place.
He seems to feel that "communities" will drive software and that professionals will most likely make their revenue from installing, supporting and configuring said software or combinations thereof.
One issue I have with
Why aren't more people using version 2 apache? (Score:1, Interesting)
2.2 - wait for it (Score:4, Informative)
The lingering daemon functionality that was provided externally in 1.3 is back and in core 2.2.
This will be a huge boost for large providers to serve more connections and provide good reason.
At present, I recommend 2.x just because it's closer to 2.2 (and hence involves less configuration and setup quirks later on)- They're about equal now with the prefork.
I'd say that people expected a huge benefit, but didn't quite get it right away. In a Web server, it just needs to work, and both worked- so why upgrade for slightly slower performance and no additional features. What people failed to realize is that changing this framework around provides long-term growth and renews the project to increase its extensibility such as module ordering in the long term.
As that long term comes now, you'll see a lot more move to that as the gains keep showing up, now that the framework is stable.
-M
Free Stuff is great, but.... (Score:2, Insightful)
Who learns about programming... (Score:1)
Everyone should just get a real job! *ducks* (I tend to say that about all things I like doing, since I consider it more fun than work and gladly do it for free.)
Re:Who learns about programming... (Score:1)
Re:Free Stuff is great, but.... (Score:2)
Free & Open software is great on the most part, but developers need to pay bills too. If all software was free and open, who'd want to learn to make it?
What is with all these uninformed business plan questions? Most major open source projects are funded by users. Developers get paid to work on them by people who want to use them and want some given feature. It is not as though open source coders are working for free all the time. Some are as a hobby, but for the most part it is just not the case. Now
Re:Free Stuff is great, but.... (Score:2)
Why no other major httpd projects? (Score:4, Insightful)
Soko
Re:Why no other major httpd projects? (Score:2)
Which license do you mean? The newest one that made OpenBSD fork httpd? Now why does that remind me of XFree86 and Xorg?
My question (Score:3, Funny)
Re:My question (Score:1)
Even version 1.3.3.7 would still have to be a vendor import, because that would be branch 1.3.3.
Re:My question (Score:2)
Open Source and Gaming (Score:5, Interesting)
After reading your homepage and following many of the links, it's obvious that you are a pretty solid game enthusiast -- from your work on MUDs, playing MTG in your younger years, to enjoyment of TES:Oblivion. Do you think that open-source software has a significant role to play in mass-market gaming? Do you think that opening the code of games would enhance game devlopment?
If he's the chairman, his title ought to be (Score:5, Funny)
In which case I'd ask him two things. First, if he has any juicy gossip about the other Superfriends. And second, if he could have other powers instead of the one he's got, would he want them, and if so, what would they be?
Critics (Score:4, Interesting)
Apache Live CD? (Score:2, Interesting)
what i'd like to see is a live bootable cd for a server that the first time you boot from it with a clean storage drive, it asks for setup preferences and writes those to the hard drive or flash drive.
on subsequent boots it reads those preferences from the hard drive and sets itself up automaticly.
Re: Apache Live CD? (Score:2)
Re: Apache Live CD? (Score:1)
Re: Apache Live CD? (Score:2)
Check out SLAX Server Edition: slax.linux-live.org/download.php [linux-live.org]
Documentation: saving configurations [linux-live.org] and webconfig [linux-live.org]
Features: slax features [linux-live.org]
Note: I am not affiliated with Tomas Matejicek, but his work on this LiveCD is awesome, and I use SLAX for diagnostics, to check out hardware for compatibility with Linux
Re:Children, please grow up. (Score:1, Funny)
Welcome to Slashdot. We are proud to have you here, Mr. Taylor. If you could find a way to better format your post, perhaps using a Comic Sans font, it would be more readable.
Though you may not realize it, "Why do you find it neccesary to help companies like CentOS hack rural town websites?" is quite the funny joke at this time. You see, this article pertains to Apache, the software that was being used to host your web site on your CentOS system.
Also, could you stop using the term "ignora
Mullets Galore (Score:2, Funny)
Have you ever looked in the mirror in the morning? Seriously dude, you look like a roadie for Ratt. I think I saw you behind a guitar center once drink a beer on top of a Camaro? Seriously, what gives with the hair, clothes, etc? Someone needs to open source some style and ftp it to you pronto I guess. Take care of yourself.
Dorkblade (Score:1, Funny)
I know! I know! (Score:2)
I suspect this guy probably hasn't [slashdot.org].
Re:I know! I know! (Score:2)
[exit stage left]
Time Management? (Score:1, Insightful)
Howe does it feel to (Score:3, Interesting)
What's your favorite scotch? (Score:2, Interesting)
What's in a name? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:What's in a name? (Score:2)
Re:What's in a name? (Score:1)
I personally don't find using the name of ethnic group is appropriate for any company, organization, or product. At least we've been spared cartoonish stereotypes. I echo the OP:
"Do you think it's appropriate to use/borrow the name of a people for a large visible public project/undertaking without asking their permission first? Have you ever asked a representative of the Apache people what they think ab
Re:What's in a name? (Score:2)
Irrelevant Question... (Score:1)
Re:Irrelevant Question... (Score:1)
Bloat and new competition. (Score:5, Interesting)
MMORPGs on XBox (Score:1)
Your xbox blog is legendary (http://xboxgamer.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]). I know you still have a gaming PC for MMORPGs; why aren't they all running on the xbox Live network? What's it going to take before we give up gaming PCs for consoles? It seems like MMORPGs are the last holdout, but I can't figure out why they're holding out.
Re:MMORPGs on XBox (Score:2)
Policy on recognition in code contributions (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Policy on recognition in code contributions (Score:2)
Your source of pride should be the solid piece of code you've freely contributed to the community, not your name attachment to it. The latter feeling is vanity, not pride.
Re:Policy on recognition in code contributions (Score:2)
vanity [google.com] is excessive pride. Putting your name on your work is not excessive. By your logic anyone who creates anything and takes credit f
Re:Policy on recognition in code contributions (Score:1)
I don't think your analogy makes any sense. The only reason to put your name in a comment is if you know you're not doing a complete job and somebody may need to contact you for guidance later. Perhaps someone more experienced than me sees it another way?
Geez. Now I feel like I ought to AC, since me being all smart I want my name to go with my comment to show off how much sense I make. Maybe I'm jus
Management (Score:5, Interesting)
We often read about managment problems with large software projects. The Apache web server is a large, well maintained and stable platform. This obviously didn't happen by accident but as a result of the team all knowing what they were supposed to do.
With this in mind, what are your personal top ten management do's and dont's with regard to large software projects?
Regards,
-ed
Stein (Score:2)
Who has longer hair... (Score:1)
Bog? Nog? (Score:1)
When's the last time you had a good idle? I bogleg at the thought of how far you've come since those days.
(Sorry, only Greg and a few others will have any clue what I'm talking about. 2001 called, and it wants it's "whips out his Python" jokes back, along with 46 "bog" and five Deathblade emotes, by the way.)
Zeus.com's claims of superiority (Score:1)
Re:Zeus.com's claims of superiority (Score:1)
You're clearly confused.
Re:Zeus.com's claims of superiority (Score:1)
The Netcraft web server survey on the other hand shows Apache at 50,502,840 servers and Zeus at 56,1524. I am much more likely to believe Netcrafts figures than Zeus' biased sales propaganda.
Re:Zeus.com's claims of superiority (Score:1)
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Segmented Servers (Score:4, Interesting)
-M
Slashdot proof Apache? (Score:1, Interesting)
After a while in load balance hell and writing ugly perl code to replicate sites dynamically I wonder if we will ever see
such a thing as a "distributed scalable web server"? Apache seems a very self contained, dare I say "brittle" monolith. Do you see scalability as a weakness and if not what is in the pipeline to handle sites that get a few hundred hits a month and then get suddenly get Slashdotted for a 24 hour period?
Why not improve Apache 2's usability? (Score:3, Interesting)
Any relation (Score:2)
Apache Portals (Score:1)
It could make a compelling replacement for systems like Campus Pipeline.
What makes Apache tick? (Score:2)
Can you briefly (like 100 words or less, without technobabble) say why the Apache project has been such a quiet success and would you please do that, if you can? And if that doesn't seem possible, could you briefly say why?
I'm looking for a couple of things: first, you are an expert in FOSS and your opinion about whether managing communications was more significant than managing bugs, etc, would be of great personal interest. But I'm also hoping for something pithy that can be used at a college Board of D
Future of Apache vs Microsoft (Score:1)
How do you think Apache will stand up to Microsoft's Vista Server?
Bedtime (Score:2, Funny)
Apache and software patents. (Score:2)
Yo,
-Karl
2.2 Win32 Binaries (Score:1, Interesting)
It seems like a much longer delay than in the past.
Is it because the code is being updated to compile under VC8? (a huge undertaking by the look of it) Is it because of the relatively buggy new version of InstallShield?
Is it related to the status of third party modules?
I managed to compile 2.2 with ssl on VC6 with a little effort, been running it on our site for over 3 months now, it seems just fine. I compil
Best scotch? (Score:1)
"I mean, who hasn't heard of Apache?" (Score:1)
Hi (Score:1)
Google Patents (Score:2)
peoplenet (Score:1)
Re:Professionalism (Score:2)
Re:You Hacked My Website! (Score:1)