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Ask Apache Software Chairman Greg Stein 117

Here's a man who obviously has his finger on the pulse of open source software development. I mean, who hasn't heard of Apache? His work history is interesting, too: He's moved from Microsoft to CollabNet to Google. And he's not shy about speaking his mind about open source, as shown in this ZDNet blog entry. Please try to confine yourself to one question per post. (If you have more than one question, post more than once.) We'll send 10 of the highest-moderated questions to Greg tomorrow and run his answers when we get them back.
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Ask Apache Software Chairman Greg Stein

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  • untethered computing (Score:4, Interesting)

    by mfh ( 56 ) on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @12:22PM (#15011157) Homepage Journal
    Greg,
    What are your thoughts on Apache's direction in regards to the new roaming AJAX desktops [slashdot.org] we keep hearing about -- what are some of the limitations you foresee in the overall untethered computing experience?

    Kind Regards,
    Scotty
  • Why Java? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @12:27PM (#15011191)
    Why does everything the Apache foundation release these days have to be Java based?

    I use http but thats about it. I have looked at the other Apache software but always been offputting to have to set up Java with all the classpaths etc.

    Whats wrong with C or C++? Its portable and easy to install and run.

    This isnt a troll, although it might look like one....
  • Open Source (Score:2, Interesting)

    by rehtonAesoohC ( 954490 ) on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @12:29PM (#15011207) Journal
    Greg,

    Do you believe that open source projects should always remain in the public domain- ie. that no open source projects should turn commercial?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @12:33PM (#15011234)
    Why aren't more people using version 2 apache?
  • by RingDev ( 879105 ) on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @12:33PM (#15011235) Homepage Journal
    Given your opinion that "in 5-10 years most of the software you use will be free." How do you see the future of software development business plans? Will every software development company depend on the profits of their support department for funding?

    -Rick
  • by Red Flayer ( 890720 ) on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @12:35PM (#15011255) Journal
    Greg,
    After reading your homepage and following many of the links, it's obvious that you are a pretty solid game enthusiast -- from your work on MUDs, playing MTG in your younger years, to enjoyment of TES:Oblivion. Do you think that open-source software has a significant role to play in mass-market gaming? Do you think that opening the code of games would enhance game devlopment?
  • Critics (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @12:37PM (#15011268)
    How do you respond to critics who allege that Apache has gotten bigger and more bloated in recent releases, particularly the 2.x series?
  • Apache Live CD? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by fishyfool ( 854019 ) on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @12:40PM (#15011284) Homepage Journal
    will there ever be an Apache live cd distro?
    what i'd like to see is a live bootable cd for a server that the first time you boot from it with a clean storage drive, it asks for setup preferences and writes those to the hard drive or flash drive.
      on subsequent boots it reads those preferences from the hard drive and sets itself up automaticly.

  • Howe does it feel to (Score:3, Interesting)

    by scenestar ( 828656 ) on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @01:06PM (#15011481) Homepage Journal
    Corner micorsoft with a larger marketshare and a superior product.
  • by fitz ( 2205 ) on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @01:07PM (#15011494) Homepage
    So we all know that you have an affinity for Manhattans, but what's your favorite scotch? Favorite as in "stuck on a desert island with one bottle of scotch".
  • What's in a name? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @01:21PM (#15011606)
    Do you think it's appropriate to use/borrow the name of a people for a large visible public project/undertaking without asking their permission first? Have you ever asked a representative of the Apache people what they think about the fact that their name is used for your project?
  • by booch ( 4157 ) <slashdot2010NO@SPAMcraigbuchek.com> on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @01:30PM (#15011678) Homepage
    What do you think of the newer smaller competitors? Particularly LightTPD [lighttpd.net]. Would it be worthwhile for Apache to work to "slim down"? While Apache is seen by many as a slimmer alternative to more monolithic servers like IIS, it seems that it may be vulnerable to the even smaller alternatives. And this new round of competitors is nearly as featureful and extendable as Apache. What can Apache do to stay current and competitive?
  • by Leknor ( 224175 ) on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @01:36PM (#15011715)
    Apache seems to have a policy against programmers having their name in a comment for the code they contribute to. For much of the open source world, the code is a major medium that programmers express ideas like a canvas is the medium a painter expresses themselves or the pages of book is for a writer. Admittedly programming is more of an engineering skill than it is an artistic skill but well written code still takes an artistic eye. Discouraging a programmer from identifying their contributions is in effect discouraging them from taking the utmost pride in their craft. Why does Apache remove incentives for people to do their best work?
  • Re:Why Java? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by booch ( 4157 ) <slashdot2010NO@SPAMcraigbuchek.com> on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @01:37PM (#15011719) Homepage
    Another question we might ask is -- why has the Apache Foundation diversified so much? There are a lot of Apache projects out there now, many of which a lot of us are completely unfamiliar with. And some don't even have anything to do with the web. (SpamAssassin comes to mind. It's a great package, but seems to have no relation to Apache HTTPD.) What are the pros and cons of this diversity? Might it cause a lack of focus on the core HTTPD?
  • Re:Why Java? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by p2sam ( 139950 ) on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @01:43PM (#15011784)
    I don't speak for The Apache Software Foundation, but they are not simply managing the Apache HTTPD anymore. They have become more like a sourceforge like thing, except they are very selective about which projects to take on, and whose projects out of incubation are of exception quality.
  • Management (Score:5, Interesting)

    by StressedEd ( 308123 ) <ej.graceNO@SPAMimperial.ac.uk> on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @01:44PM (#15011796) Homepage
    Dear Greg,

    We often read about managment problems with large software projects. The Apache web server is a large, well maintained and stable platform. This obviously didn't happen by accident but as a result of the team all knowing what they were supposed to do.

    With this in mind, what are your personal top ten management do's and dont's with regard to large software projects?

    Regards,

    -ed

  • Segmented Servers (Score:4, Interesting)

    by PhYrE2k2 ( 806396 ) on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @03:27PM (#15012543)
    Has any thought been put into doing what FastCGI has done, only within Apache and its modules rather than between Apache and some other program? This could reduce the core server size, allow threading and other fun where it wasn't before, and use resources more efficiently, passing proper apache structures to a module server that could pass that same structure to PHP/Perl/TK/etc and back again?

    -M
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @04:00PM (#15012824)
    Hi Greg,

    After a while in load balance hell and writing ugly perl code to replicate sites dynamically I wonder if we will ever see
    such a thing as a "distributed scalable web server"? Apache seems a very self contained, dare I say "brittle" monolith. Do you see scalability as a weakness and if not what is in the pipeline to handle sites that get a few hundred hits a month and then get suddenly get Slashdotted for a 24 hour period?
  • by Alpha_Traveller ( 685367 ) * on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @04:03PM (#15012849) Homepage Journal
    It seems to me that there are more newbies to Linux every day. With Apache 2 being such an important Web services platform, it appears very powerful but not all that easy for a person new to Apache to set up. Why kind of efforts do you plan to undertake to improve the set-up process for Windows and Linux flavors?
  • 2.2 Win32 Binaries (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28, 2006 @08:52PM (#15014837)
    Why, four months after the release of 2.2, are there still no Windows binaries posted on Apache.org?

    It seems like a much longer delay than in the past.

    Is it because the code is being updated to compile under VC8? (a huge undertaking by the look of it) Is it because of the relatively buggy new version of InstallShield?

    Is it related to the status of third party modules?

    I managed to compile 2.2 with ssl on VC6 with a little effort, been running it on our site for over 3 months now, it seems just fine. I compiled recent php versions modules (thread safety, I know...) and eAccelerator to work with it. I managed to produce an acceptable msi installer package as well.

    I'm curious as to why the long delay, I'm beginning to wonder if Apache may be discontinuing support for windows in future versions?

    (aside: I also agree with other comments above that C is a zillion times more portable than java...)

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