Amanda 2.5 Released 155
Anonymous Coward writes to tell us that a new release of the popular open source backup tool Amanda is now available fixing many of the limitations of previous versions. From the release: "Overall the focus of the release is on security of the backup process & backed up data, scalability of the backup process and ease of installation & configuration of Amanda."
Nice... (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Nice... (Score:2)
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Re:OT: Tags (Score:2)
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What a co-incidence! (Score:5, Funny)
Ahh, fun times.
Re:What a co-incidence! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:What a co-incidence! (Score:1)
Re:What a co-incidence! (Score:1, Insightful)
http://www.realdoll.com/dolls.asp [realdoll.com]
Fixed link: (Score:2)
If you tell anyone about this, don't mention my name.
Re:What a co-incidence! (Score:1)
How many pictures did you have?
Re:What a co-incidence! (Score:3, Funny)
Was Amanda's last name Hugankiss?
Re:What a co-incidence! (Score:2, Funny)
>Amanda was always my backup
and the signature was
>Your wife just won't understand
Not just high-school backup... (Score:5, Funny)
[telephone rings]
Slashdotter: Hello? Oh hi Mom. How's my laundry coming along?
Mother: It's almost done, dearie. I can't seem to get the stain out of your Starfleet Command t-shirt, though.
Slashdotter: [frustrated] Aww!
Mother: Don't worry, I'll keep trying. [pause] Dear, are you seeing anyone? I'm worried about you.
Slashdotter: Aw come on, mom. Well, um, yeah... sure I'm seeing someone.
Mother: You're not fibbing again, are you?
Slashdotter: What? No!
Mother: If you aren't fibbing, tell me what her name is.
Slashdotter: Uh...her name is... Amanda.
Mother: Really?
Slashdotter: Yeah, Amanda. I'm serious. Amanda is really cool.
Mother: You have a GIRLFRIEND? REALLY? I'm so thrilled! Your father will be so thrilled!
Slashdotter: Yes... Amanda. In fact, she's someone at the office. We really "click".
Mother: Oh! I am ~so~ glad. You do have to be careful with an office relationship, dearie. I hope you are being discrete.
Slashdotter: Don't worry, mom. We keep it very professional when we see each other at work.
Mother: I'm glad! Amanda... that is a nice name. Is she pretty?
Slashdotter: Oh yes, yes she is. Pretty in an intuitive sort of way. And totally low maintenance.
Mother: She sounds wonderful!
Slashdotter: Yeah... um... Yeah, and mom? Amanda would really like to see my Starfleet Command t-shirt this weekend...
Mother: I'll take care of it right away, dear! Your father will be so thrilled!
thanks amanda (Score:2, Informative)
Re:thanks amanda (Score:5, Funny)
Re:thanks amanda (Score:3, Funny)
Simple: schedule time to run the dumper...
Cheers
Stor
Re:thanks amanda (Score:2)
Re:thanks amanda (Score:2)
Re:thanks amanda (Score:2)
Dev code name: "HugNKiss" (Score:2, Funny)
Great software (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Great software (Score:2, Interesting)
But why is this listed under Linux?
Re:Great software (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:Great software (Score:2)
Re:Great software (Score:2, Insightful)
Works great with older setups & configs (Score:5, Informative)
Newbies, please goto amanda.org or zmanda.org and read the top ten FAQ there, it will save you many headaches in getting it setup. To make it work, and work well, may require a re-thinking of how you think a backup should be done. Once setup its a background process you get nightly emails from, but requires little or no hand-holding on a daily basis other than making sure the tape needed is in the drive for tonights run. vtape users (where the tape images are kept on a humongous hard drive) don't even have to deal with that, the best of both worlds IMO. I've been doing that for about 18 months or more here at the coyote.den, my private domains name.
And I highly recommend subscribing to the amanda-user mailing list, details on amanda.org, where you can ask for help and get it from more knowledgable people than I, although you will find me there too. 10 messages is a busy day so it won't eat your lunch.
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Cheers, Gene
Re:Works great with older setups & configs (Score:2)
Re:Works great with older setups & configs (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Works great with older setups & configs (Score:2)
"History never repeats itself, but it does rhyme" - Mark Twain
Re, the disks. That's why I set up a script for backup called "yarbu", Yet Another Rsync Backup Utility. It's dirty but does its job remarkably well....
I really should get around to cleaning it up!
Re:Works great with older setups & configs (Score:2)
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Cheers, Gene
Re:Works great with older setups & configs (Score:2)
Re:Works great with older setups & configs (Score:2)
I'm quite pleased with it as having hourly backups has been a real life saver. The thing I always noted is that the stuff that's the most important is the most recent.... Frequent backups are good!
I'll probably upd
Re:Works great with older setups & configs (Score:2)
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Cheers, Gene
Great work for a great software (Score:1)
spanning (Score:2)
Yes! Tape Spanning! (Score:5, Informative)
How long until DVD spanning? (Score:2)
I don't want anything fancy - just full and incremental backup. Yet every product seems to be designed either for single users backing up key documents to a single CD, or for enterprise users backing up terabytes of documents to expensive tape drives!
Mondo Rescue (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:How long until DVD spanning? (Score:2)
Re:How long until DVD spanning? (Score:2)
Re:How long until DVD spanning? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:How long until DVD spanning? (Score:2)
Yes, but then Amanda is also not suitable for that. DVD's are too small to consider for backup for anyone with terrabytes of data to backup.
Re:How long until DVD spanning? (Score:2)
We currently use Amanda to backup over a terabyte of data & we're not a very large shop. The last survey (2003, with 72 responses) showed multiple users backing up as much as 5000 GB.
With support for things like RAIT, amanda scales fairly nicely.
Re:spanning (Score:1)
Dump images spanning multiple media volumes:
This major step forward alleviates Amanda's most significant limitation. The size of the backed up images is no longer restricted to a single media volume but may now span over several volumes. This gets rid of the need of the administrator to artificially segment their data into parts which can fit into a single media volume (as required in prior versions of Amanda).
Re:spanning (Score:2, Funny)
BackupPC is also good (Score:5, Informative)
What I really like about BackupPC is the Disk based backup focus of it. It does NOT support tape drives. But for doing backups to hard drives it is great. And with the way it will only keep one copy of a file, no matter how many systems it is on really helps to minimize disk space usage. Example: You have
Great stuff!
Re:BackupPC is also good (Score:2, Informative)
Re:BackupPC is also good (Score:2)
Does it still use UDP for control? (Score:2)
conntrack will only stick you with cleartext (Score:2)
Our interim solution has been to rsync (over ssh) all remote data to the local disk on the tape backup server and then back that up. It's not the best thing at all, but it works. Ideally we'll stop using amanda entirely at some point and switc
AMANDA 2.5 supports Encryption (Score:2)
Re:Does it still use UDP for control? (Score:2)
Re:Does it still use UDP for control? (Score:2)
Re:Does it still use UDP for control? (Score:2)
Spending money on what? You're confusing me or you're confused about something... why do you think OpenBSD costs me more than Linux?
If what you want is to have a record of any network activities
No, that's not why I use proxies.
I mean, thanks for the information about the Linux IP filter solution, even if I don't use it... but a TCP-based command connection is still something missing from Amanda. A persistent TCP-based connection would also allow Amanda to distinguish be
How does it compare to Bacula? (Score:4, Interesting)
The thing I like about Bacula is that it will allow you to spread a backup job accross multiple tapes, supports backups to disk, has its own scheduling system, and has a native windows client. From what I understand Amanda uses tar and relies upon NFS, SMB, or other network filesystem protocols to work. Bacula on the other hand has a true client/server architecture with a native client running on all of the systems it supports. It also makes use of MySQL to keep track of backup jobs. This made it very easy for me to create a web interface for it (http://raobackup.eas.asu.edu/ [asu.edu]
If Amanda has been improved to be competitive with Bacula in some of these areas then I'll definitely have to investigate it.
Lee
Re:How does it compare to Bacula? (Score:5, Interesting)
Amanda has always allowed backups to a holding disk & the scheduler has been fantasitc. There isn't a native windows client, but the windows client runs fine under cygwin, or one can backup SMB shares.
Amanda does rely on tar (which is, IMHO, a good thing), but that tar can be different on each client (so that one can backup resource forks on OS X, for example).
Amanda doesn't rely on NFS or SMB, but can use them. There are excellent web interfaces through, for example, webmin.
Re:How does it compare to Bacula? (Score:2, Informative)
- Data format on the media: You can restore from Amanda media without using Amanda. The commands to
restore data is part of the header
- Consistent backup window: Amanda unique scheduler tries to backup same amount of data every backup run.
Paddy
Bacula doesn't have Amanda's scheduling. (Score:5, Interesting)
For a site with growing storage there's no alternative to Amanda.
Re:How does it compare to Bacula? (Score:1)
Parent is not a troll. (Score:2)
I've been wondering the same thing. There are quite a few Linux backup products out there, ranging from the more full-featured network backup systems like Amanda and Bacula to shell scripts (some of which are damned impressive by themselves). I've become aware of all the different options because I just bought a DDS tape autoloader for backing up my home network, and choosing one can be pretty daunting. (And I only have a handful o
Re:How does it compare to Bacula? (Score:2, Interesting)
Also, check out this: http://www.indpnday.com/bacula_stuff/bacula-web/d
Re:Robustness (Score:2)
Lee
I Tried It Once... (Score:5, Interesting)
Not only has it always been versatile as far as the hardware it uses--for my SOHO server, an external USB Harddrive is the ticket, one that I can just snatch and carry with me if natural disaster threatens, e.g.--but the METHOD of backup [nongnu.org] is superior to anything I've personally ever encountered.
Backup AND restore are both a breeze.
I'm sure that AMANDA is more appropriate for many (read "more servers") usage, but I've found rdiff-backup to be perfect for someone like me, with only a single server to worry about (althought that single server contains all my family's business and personal files--so to us, it's not such a trivial thing).
Re:I Tried It Once... (Score:2)
Re:I Tried It Once... (Score:2)
I have a simple script that uses rdiff-backup to backup a whole bunch of on-line servers.
For disk backup rdiff-backup is the best solution I have found since it has the binary-diff advantage of rsync combined with roll-back (also implemented with diffs).
For backing up from a colo over the internet sending the whole file system every night will result in ridiculous bandwidth usage. Some sort of binary diff system is the only option IMHO.
solid piece of software (Score:3, Informative)
Amanda 2.5 Released - no .deb's? (Score:1)
Re: Amanda 2.5 Released - no .deb's? (Score:2, Informative)
http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/amanda-se
http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/amanda-cl
Re: Amanda 2.5 Released - no .deb's? (Score:2, Informative)
It will be also available from http://www.zmanda.com/downloads.html [zmanda.com] site soon
Re: Amanda 2.5 Released - no .deb's? (Score:2)
OTOH, if you are using a linux distribution that closely follows the file/
directory structure that many F/OSS projects expect, like Slackware does,
then Amanda will build and run without any problems
So, I guess you have choices: (1) you yourself contribute to a Debian
version of this software, (2) wait until someone else does this work for
you, or (3) switch to a supported linux distribution. Not to be a troll or
anything, but
Backups? (Score:1)
Re:Backups? (Score:2, Funny)
Generalised backup applications? (Score:2)
Re:Generalised backup applications? (Score:2, Informative)
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Re:Legitimate question (Score:1)
Re:Legitimate question (Score:2)
Re:Legitimate question (Score:2)
Am trying to convince my boss to give Amanda a try, but I don't think that will be possible until we ditch Novell for Samba (hopefully in a
Re:Legitimate question (Score:2)
Just curious, but why ditching Novell for Samba when you could move to Open Enterprise Server (with the Linux kernel) and run Samba on Linux in Novell? You could run Amanda right away, or even RSYNC NetWare to Linux (with TRUSTEE.NLM rights output) and then Amanda that. I guess I just don't see how people can get away from e-Directory and ZENworks if they are still supporting Windo
Re:Legitimate question (Score:2)
> I just don't see how people can get away from e-Directory and ZENworks
Our Novell version is like 5.1 I think. Seriously ancient stuff, and none of us that remain here know much about it. So we're not exactly addicted to Novell's newer whiz-bang features.
Amanda or Zmanda? (Score:1)
To me, this looks like some third party updated and extended some OSS. That said, I think the title is a bit misleading in that this isn't Amanda 2.5 at all, but some other project...
Just my $0.02
Re:Amanda or Zmanda? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Amanda or Zmanda? (Score:2, Informative)
Access control lists? (Score:2)
Melissa
Nice but.. (Score:3, Informative)
Also we use rsnapshot [freshmeat.net] for hourly/daily/weekly/monthly snapshots of the whole filesystem (rsnapshot is very cool and simple too).
Re:Nice but.. (Score:3, Informative)
Name sounds familiar... (Score:1)
Re:Name sounds familiar... (Score:2)
What's next for amanda? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:What's next for amanda? (Score:3, Informative)
I believe what is meant here is that certain configuration files (such as the list of which disks to backup or files to exclude) are delimited with white space.
This is currently somewhat anoying, but not too limiting. You'll tell it to backup things like "/home" and "/etc" or "/cygdrive/c/Docume~1" & it will backup files and folders in those with names like "New Folder" a
Easy Amanda Client for MacOSX? (Score:2)
Re:Easy Amanda Client for MacOSX? (Score:2)
Re:Easy Amanda Client for MacOSX? (Score:2)
5. Profit!
My personal "backup" solution... (Score:2)
Basically, my home network consists of a couple of (linux)
Still Tape Only (Score:2, Insightful)
But it would be nice if you could specify the equivalent of some number of tape sets in the holding area and have them overwrite themselves without manual intervention.
Re:Still Tape Only (Score:2, Informative)
From TFA:
Amanda is the world's most popular open source backup and recovery software. Amanda allows system administrators to set up a single server to back up multiple hosts to a tape- or disk-based storage system over the network.
Or am I missing something?
Re:Still Tape Only (Score:2, Informative)
why don't you use vtapes [amanda.org]?
Thank you.. (Score:2)
Seriously, why are we seeing product announcements on the front page? OSTG already owns freshmeat, there is no reason to reproduce this information on Slashdot. I hope I'm not marked as a troll on this, and I'll even go as far and NOT post as a coward.
Interesting project! (Score:2)
This looks like a great solution because like commercial backup programs for Windows, I can centralize our backups. What I have set up right now is scripts to create dar archi