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Hilf Speaks About Linux Through Microsoft Eyes 150

inkslinger77 writes "Microsoft's Linux-pro, Bill Hilf pulled out of the Linux World conference in Australia, but speaks with Computerworld anyway about what exactly his team gets up to. He talks about how Microsoft plans to make money from Linux and how they use Linux in their overall market strategy."
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Hilf Speaks About Linux Through Microsoft Eyes

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  • MS and OSS (Score:3, Interesting)

    by RunningGeek84 ( 955604 ) on Wednesday March 22, 2006 @09:54AM (#14971088) Homepage
    It seems to me in many respects MS is playing catchup to OSS. The tabbed browsing in IE 7 (that's been in every other browser in the last year or two), the all grahpical installation of WinVista (the two Linux distros I've installed, Mandriva and SuSe, had all grahpical installations), the interface in WinVista (looks kinda like KDE or Mac OS X), and so on. Maybe WinVista will actually have a decent partioning tool during it's installation like Mandriva and SuSe do. So yeah, MS does have things to learn from OSS (and the Mac). This post will probably incite a flamefest from the MS Windows apologists that hang around message boards but that's not my intent, just my observations from using Linux and MS Windows.
  • Re:Make Love Not War (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mgblst ( 80109 ) on Wednesday March 22, 2006 @11:38AM (#14971874) Homepage
    Sure this is optimistic hope for the future of companies working hand in hand with OSS development projects but we have to believe it's going to happen or it won't!

    Sure, we can all believe that it will happen, but not with Microsoft. This has never been a part of Microsofts attitude, as much as you want it to be. If you see some signs of Microsoft changing there behavious, then please point it out to the rest of us. And I would not count them hiring some Linux guy and a small team as evidence that they are now willing to work with Linux, and not actively try to remove it from the computing scene.

    The cold hard truth is that you're just as closed minded as they are about working together

    ahhh... so you are not so optimistict after all. As much as well all want microsoft to work nicely with other companies and OSes, the fact is that they haven't in the past, and it doesn't look like they will in the future.
  • by Cyno ( 85911 ) on Wednesday March 22, 2006 @11:45AM (#14971928) Journal
    Yes, LinuxWorld is a big thing that he should be making but he doesn't work for Linux. Linux doesn't cut his paychecks, Microsoft does. And if he's got something to do internally, leave it at that.

    That's an awefully convenient excuse, to have this internal meeting suddenly pop up. That's the same excuse I would use to stay home and get high. I bet all those Microsoft OSS advocates partake.

    But Microsoft thinks they know Linux because they learned about OSS. They may know OSS, but they don't know Free Software or Linux. The driving force behind Linux, what makes Linux the unstoppable force it is, is something Microsoft can never embrace. Their whole purpose for existence is to take, not to give. It is to possess, to own, to turn into IP and products and things they can sell to you. Linux is the opposite of that existence, its whole purpose is to give, to share, to promote the free flow of information and blur the lines between property and ownership until no one has control.

    BSD and Microsoft make good bed fellows. BSD's a slut. Free Software, however, is their one true competitor. Actually, Free Software really is only in competition with itself. Microsoft is only temporary. They'll leave the OS and Office markets when they're no longer profitable. Free Software will stay until the end of time, profitable or not.
  • Re:Make Love Not War (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Cyno ( 85911 ) on Wednesday March 22, 2006 @12:08PM (#14972103) Journal
    People change.

    People also lie. All the time. I see it every day here in the US.

    Do you trust Microsoft?

    I'm just interested in what you think and don't think. I'm interested in who you trust and don't trust. Your reasoning is probably obvious, from my perspective, but I am curious. Every bit of info helps. Every word. Every detail about what you think, how and why, is important to me.

    I'm not interested in name calling, I'm interested in your mind, your psyche, how it operates, how it can be manipulated. I'd never use any of this to promote Linux, I don't have to. I'd much rather use it to make money. You have nothing else I want.

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