SCO Offers Up The 'SCAMP' Stack 97
Robert wrote to mention a Computer Business Review Online article about SCO's newest marketing tactic. They're offering their OS as part of a 'SCAMP' stack, ala the more familiar LAMP setup. From the article: "The Lindon, Utah-based Unix vendor has included the open source Apache web server, MySQL database, and PHP and Perl programming languages with its SCO OpenServer operating system since the launch of OpenServer 6 in June 2005. It is now pitching the technologies as a SCAMP stack, placing it squarely up against the Linux-based LAMP stack. SCO claims that Linux contains Unix code donated to the open source operating system in violation of agreements between it and IBM Corp."
Pay more for less! (Score:5, Informative)
So how this SCAMP thing is supposed to be anything special, is completely beyond my comprehention.
However, I for one would be VERY curious as to how SCO is treating all the different FOSS licenses which apply. As far as I know, Apache's license has a mutual patent annihilation clause, and I'm pretty sure the other licenses have their own set of rules too. It would be all too funny if one of them found a reason to sue SCO over their prepackaged SCAMP solution.
Re:Blah, blah, blah (Score:5, Informative)
Yes, actually. As soon as Caldera took over the SCO Unix business, they pretty much dropped any real support for the platform and focused their efforts on sueing Linux. If the reports are to be believed, their distributors were about ready to hang them during the various regional meetings. The SCO corporate reps came across as somewhat anxious about all the bad will towards them, but definitely not apologetic.
The fallout of these meetings was expected to be that SCO would lose a lot of their local distributors. The results of which would be catastrophic if SCO were actually trying to do business. Now that they realize that their lawsuit has failed, they've found that they've screwed themselves on being able to do business. In addition, they've burned their OSS bridge (guess we won't be seeing an opensco.org, eh?), leaving them with no real edge in the market. So now they're trying to convince businesses that they can provide OSS support without being an OSS supporter.
My prediction? You're going to be seeing quite a few new Solaris 10/OpenSolaris installations very soon now.
SCAMP : Dogfood or Dogshit? (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.sco.com [sco.com] was running Apache on Linux [netcraft.com] when last queried at 9-Mar-2006 20:57:45 GMT
Worse still
http://www.edgeclickpark.com [edgeclickpark.com] was running Apache on Windows 2000 [netcraft.com] when last queried at 14-Mar-2006 14:43:14 GMT
Microsoft Windows 2000 Server with all vendor patches installed and all vendor workarounds applied, is currently affected by 21 Secunia advisories [secunia.com] some of which are rated Highly critical.
Re:rascal? (Score:4, Informative)
I honestly said out loud when I saw this story on the frontpage, "Is this a joke?"
Incidentally, a lot of words survive in English primarily as part of a phrase, with their older, original meanings lost. In a way, the phrase is the word. For example, "hither and yon"; neither word is in common or even uncommon use anymore on its own, but the phrase is still used uncommonly. While "scamp" has not descended to this level, there is a phrase associated with it in my mind that may outlast the word itself: 'a scamp and a scoundrel [google.com]' (and note we don't much use "scoundrel" anymore either), as in "he's a scamp and a scoundrel".
So again, what crack were these people smoking? I mean, I know we like to bag on marketters around here, but there is a certain level of skill involved...
Re:Not safe to use (Score:4, Informative)
"The distribution for Windows 98, NT, 2000 and XP. This version contains: Apache, MySQL, PHP + PEAR, Perl, mod_php, mod_perl, mod_ssl, OpenSSL, phpMyAdmin, Webalizer, Mercury Mail Transport System for Win32 and NetWare Systems v3.32, JpGraph, FileZilla FTP Server, mcrypt, eAccelerator, SQLite, and WEB-DAV + mod_auth_mysql. "
Jason
IBM's countersuit (Score:2, Informative)
Lets see (Score:3, Informative)
Then again, lets see about the technical merits. Other than the underlying OS, it is the same as the LAMP package. That means the choice is Linux vs SCO. From what I gather, SCO is:
1) Less secure
2) More expensive
3) Prone to legal attacks toward users
4) Far less supported
5) Far less available software/plugins
6) Has serious questions about the company being there in a year
7) Laughably scalable
8) Drivers?
I could go on, but you get the point. The vultures are circling, and no amount of hand-waving is going to fix things.
-Charlie
Re:What really caught my eye here: (Score:4, Informative)
I worked at a place that used SCO OpenServer about 5 years ago... the costs were outrageous. At that time you had to buy additional users in multiples of 25, which cost about $5000 + 20% annual maintenance.