Cost Effective Scan-to-FTP Products? 63
An anonymous reader asks: "The law firm I work for uses a document routing system that picks up TIFFs or PDFs in server directory and processes them. We're using digital copiers with scan-to-FTP functionality to get them to the server's input directory. So, we need a cheap, easy to use unit for doing scan-to-FTP (or SMB). Copiers are just too expensive to sprinkle around a floor and PC-scanner solutions are just too big, complicated and time intensive for the users. I have found a couple possibilities doing web searches, but I'm still wondering what other Slashdot readers are using for this."
Too few steps? (Score:2)
I have to say that I don't really know your requirements. You seem to need to digitise documents (and possibly OCR them) and then send them somewhere with a networking protocol. You mention FTP and SMB.
Start by breaking this down into components:
But your text indicates that you already have all of these components in place, so why are you looking for another solution? Is it just the cost?
Implied is the need to store the scanned documents in a database of some kind. Perhaps th
You seem to have got it all wrong (Score:3, Insightful)
HP Digital Sender (Score:2)
Re:Too few steps? (Score:3, Informative)
Yes he does, many copiers do this today (by copier I mean the large classic xerox sytle not the small 4 in 1 thingies), you simply plug in a network cable setup the ftp information and press scan.
He obviously wants several of these stations, but doesn't see the need in purchasing $10K+ copiers, instead wants to know if any small 4 in 1 or flatbed scanner can do thi
Any recent scanner with buttons (Score:4, Informative)
I own a Canon LIDE-50 scanner (2 years old, runs from USB power, fast and precise). It was bundled with a small utility and has 4 buttons on its front side.
I can assign realy basic actions to each button with the utility:
For your problem, you can:
Your workflow becomes:
AWx
Re:Any recent scanner with buttons (Score:1)
Re:Any recent scanner with buttons (Score:1)
Re:Any recent scanner with buttons (Score:2)
Yah, the high-end Fujitsus are better. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Stay SANE... (Score:2)
Still easy in a shell script though =)
SANE and scripting (Score:3, Interesting)
As an aside: One of my personal projects is building an setup that uses SANE, HylaFAX+iaxphone+asterisk and CUPS to scan items to a network drive (either shared space or, if they log in, password-protected space; this latter functionality is important for HR and other folks handling confidential documents); scan items to an outgoing fax; allow folks to print incoming faxes queued in their name and all that other nifty jazz. Don't know when I'll actually have something ready for release, though -- might be a bit, particularly as taking something I threw together as a once-off (which this will be, at first) and packaging it up for redistribution and reuse takes time.
Re:Asterisk and scripting (Score:1)
See, we did that in-house for a while (with SPA-2100 IIRC), and it never worked passably: We had upwards of a 50% failure rate. Granted, our network is less-than-ideal, but frankly I'll be happy to be rid of the hardware components anyhow. (My employer has a very limited hardware budget and our one fax machine is an ancient Brother POS; I've been suggesting that it be replaced for quite some time now, to no avail).
Fax machines ar
Re:SANE and scripting (Score:2)
Re:SANE and scripting (Score:1)
new technology (Score:1, Funny)
they can be 'boxed' or put in 'filing cabinets'.
Re:new technology (Score:5, Funny)
they can be 'boxed' or put in 'filing cabinets'.
Regarding your "blog:" [brew-masters.com]
It's called a 'diary.' You get a 'pen,' you write in 'ink' in it. It can be secured with a tiny metal 'key,' or shared with your 'friends.' You can even clutch it to your 'breast' after you write your deepest, most personal 'thoughts' in it.
Re:new technology (Score:2)
I'm sure they would, but it's such a pain to scan pictures and upload them to a server. What we need is a device to do this kind of thing automatically! I'm surprised nobody's asked slashdot about that yet.
Re:new technology (Score:5, Funny)
Multifunction devices (Score:2)
Re:Multifunction devices (Score:2)
The earlier versions (at least), the network scanjet 4 can run linux and do sane+scripting which is well regarded.
Re:Multifunction devices (Score:2)
I don't know off hand if you can set it up to send the documents to a default location though. We have it set up so that each person logs in and chooses to either send the digital document by email or to a SMB mounted drive. The to
Laptops + Flatbeds (Score:3, Informative)
With any number of software packages, or some simple shell scripting in Linux, automate the scanning so that when they put in a document and press the 'Scan' button, it will do whatever you want. So, just make it scan into a format and copy it to the FTP server.
It shouldn't cost you more than $500 for every Laptop / Flatbed station you need.
ATTENTION MODERATORS!!! (Score:1)
Solves the problem at hand, with exactly the requirements the original post stated: little space, and fast in time.
Kudos to you, my friend.
Penny Wise & Pound Foolish (Score:2)
Heck, I imagine everybody has their own machine, w
You just seemed to show ... (Score:2)
When the sole purpose of the laptops will be scan-and-ftp, a P300 is waaaay faster than any embedded thousand-dollar solution. Alas, it's possible that your embedded thousand-dollar solution is exactly that: a linux (or BSD/ECOS/QNX/whatever) running in a ColdFire (Motorola 68000) that grabs things via sane from the built-in scanner and FTPs it to the right place. A Mac Mini will cost something like US$ 500 -- which is US$ 100 more than the price of the combo P300 + flatbed sca
Re:You just seemed to show ... (Score:2)
No. Not even in the same ballpark for the (apparently) intended use.
So, yes, I fail to see the "pound foolish" side of things.
Have you ever used a photocopier to scan to TIFFs?
Ours at work, not a high-end model by any stretch of the imagination, can suck in somewhere around 50-100ppm (not copying, just scanning).
With a flatbed scanner, even one with a sheet feeder, you might get 5ppm.
As I understand it, the FP poster doesn't
Re:Laptops + Flatbeds (Score:2)
Re:Laptops + Flatbeds (Score:2)
Anyway, make sure you scanning software works with 32M of RAM. Swapping just doesn't work with the NSLU.
Re:Laptops + Flatbeds (Score:2)
Not "overclocked". From the factory, they're underclocked. Removing the resistor makes it run at the speed rated by Intel.
I used mine as a mail gateway briefly, but it took almost a full minute to run spamassassin on each incoming mail. Eventually, when the load went up, mail would get lost.
You just don't run apps like spamassassin on an embedded system. Scanning works just fine though, but of course it depends on the resolution you're scanning
Shell script. (Score:2)
What is needed here is a shell script.
Windows does have (limited) scripting capabilities, but is severely lacking any good command-line programs.
Re:Shell script. (Score:3, Informative)
WSH is actually more limited than traditional Unix shell scripts because the building blocks of WSH are ActiveX objects, whereas shell scripts are built from text filters. Text filters are generally much easier to write and debug than ActiveX objects (because they're simpler). Plus, it's fairly easy to use any shell scripts as a text filter for another shell script, whereas each WSH scrip
Re:Shell script. (Score:2)
As for WSH I have never been able to get it to work. though I can easily do bash scripting. But those are my limitations.
Ahh, but TWAIN isn't good enough. (Score:2)
This is why SANE is so damn useful even on Windows -- it provides an API for scanner access which is completely frontend-agnostic.
This is also why the folks talking about W
HP digital senders ! (Score:2)
http:/ [hp.com]
Re:HP digital senders ! (Score:2)
I've got them set up with 2 options; users can either have their documents PDF'd and sent to them by email, or they can have them sent directly to a specific folder on the network (where our document management system automatically picks them up and routes them in).
They're simple to use and they produce properly constructed PDF files. (2 of the biggest problems we had in the past with people scanning documents the 'ol
Another plug for HP digital senders (Score:2)
Think hardware... (Score:1)
Can do it for nothing (Score:1)
You just need to get a scanner which is supported by SANE. That rules out a lot of the povvy cheap Windows-only ones. Write a BASH scrip
USB over IP (Score:2)
saned gives you remoting anyhow (Score:2)
Probably Not The Best Option, But... (Score:1)
The script attaches to a printer via TCP/IP. From the printer, the user selects the Start Scan b
no solution, given the parameters? (Score:2)
So I'm not sure what you are looking for? There is no 'magic wand' that will scan reams of paper and put them on an FTP site short of a mechanical solution. Either you get a relatively expensive unit that does it quickly, or get cheap desktop solutions that are slow and a PITA to use, IMO.
As usual, you can have fast, cheap, or good - pick 2.
We have a Konica C350
Re:no solution, given the parameters? (Score:2)
The Gordon Flesch Company (Score:2)
-Rick
We use HP's "digital senders" (Score:2)
Re:We use HP's "digital senders" (Score:1)
Easy for End User Product (Score:1)
Cheap scanner/printer + cheap server (Score:1, Informative)
We got three Dell servers (400SCs or something), and three HP multifunctions. Two run headless, and one has KVM and a wide-format scanner. Dells go on sale for insanely low prices, and HP plays well with Linux. If you print big docs, it's especially worth it because those $100 printservers are garbage and printers directly attached to the network cost waaay more than a cheap server.
We use some bash scripting and rsync to put them on our NAS, then interns to add metadata.
Axis Network Document Servers (Score:1)
We use one of these in lieu of having a copier in our office, so I went with the more expensive one so that I could attach a more powerful scanner to it, but the less expensive USB multipage scanners from Xerox and D
Lexmark Printer / Scanner units.. (Score:2)
you probably need ... (Score:1)
Fuji Scansnap (Score:1)
http://www.fel.fujitsu.com/home/v3__wgroup.asp?wg
Scans a page form the feeder in about 4 seconds and dose both sides in one pass.
Does directly to pdf. So they can be shared over net easily. Does take max about 20 pages.