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Coffee Maybe Not a Health Drink! 381

perbert writes "Canadian researchers have published a study in the Journal of the American Medical Association indicating that excess coffee drinking (4+ cups a day) could lead to an increased risk of heart disease if you have the wrong gene. In light of other studies linking antioxidants in coffee to a reduction in heart disease, who is right? Or will they cancel out in a coffee death-match?"
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Coffee Maybe Not a Health Drink!

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  • by drooling-dog ( 189103 ) on Wednesday March 08, 2006 @11:29AM (#14875134)
    As with anything related to toxicology, the dose is the poison.

    In this case, it may be the gene that's the poison. It appears that a gene called CYP1A2 determines how fast you metabolize caffeine, depending on which of two variants you have. People with two copies of the variant CYP1A2*1A metabolize caffeine about 4X faster than those with two copies of the other variant, CYP1A2*1F. The study found that more than 2 or 3 cups of coffee a day increases the risk of cardiovascular disease for the slow metabolizers, but may actually reduce it for those carrying CYP1A2*1A.

    That could be why studies on the health effects of coffee have been all over the map. The trick is to know your genotype with regard to CYP1A2, and of course very few of us do (or can)...

    See http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn8816. html [newscientist.com]

  • by LunaticTippy ( 872397 ) on Wednesday March 08, 2006 @11:30AM (#14875153)
    If chug fails you don't need another beer.
  • Re:Dose (Score:4, Informative)

    by gunnk ( 463227 ) <{gunnk} {at} {mail.fpg.unc.edu}> on Wednesday March 08, 2006 @11:36AM (#14875222) Homepage
    ... and even drinking to much water. That's actually been a problem for several years now at marathons, half-marathons and other road races. People tend to drink at every water station. That lowers their electrolytes to the point they require medical help. It's actually much more common now than people dehydrating during races.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, 2006 @11:57AM (#14875491)
    Your symptoms (rapid pulse, dizziness) could be an adrenergic response to hypoglycemia.

    When this happens, do you experience difficulty concentrating? (Neuroglycopenia) And does it subsequently go away when you ingest food, especially sugar? Do you experience frequent urination during the recovery phase? If it's Hypoglycemia, it is actually very dangerous for your brain.

    Caffeine's kick comes from its ability to expedite the transport of sugar from the blood to the tissues. The occasionally dangerous side effect is that if you have a problem with your diet and/or anrednal glands, since caffeine creates this metabolic illusion of an energy boost, the combination can sometimes result in depleting the blood of sugar faster than this sugar can be replenished. Then you crash dangerously hard, experiencing what insulin-dependent diabetics refer to as a "hypo."

    When your brain detects low blood sugar, it triggers the release of adrenalin and cortisol which are stress hormones, and this causes your body to release emergency sugar from other sources, such as stored glucagon from your liver.

    So most of the unpleasant effects of hypoglycemia are actually your body's defense against it. But you are 100% right to avoid coffee if it does that to you, since this is a warning sign. Coffee does not do this to everybody.

    Whatever the problem is, things can likely be brought back into balance just by eating moderate balanced meals, and having healthy snacks between meals and before bed. If you eat a lot of sugar, take it with some protein and/or fat so that your pancreas never gets habitually braced for dealing with big jolts of sugar... because it'll get itself into a mode where it produces too much insulin at the wrong time... which can be as dangerous as the legendary diabetic insulin overdose. So ironically, too much sugar can cause hypoglycemia.

    Definitely talk to a Dietician.

    Possibly at some point in the future, you might consult an Endocrinologist if you've been bingeing on high-sugar foods, and you think you might be at risk of developing type II diabetes or something like hyperinsulinism or hypoglycemia. (The latter two may actually be somewhat common. It's the diagnosis for them which is exceedingly rare, since they are both very difficult to get clinically diagnosed. Pretty much only the textbook cases that present under ideal circumstances will ever get diagnosed.) You almost have to be pretty sick before an Endocrinologist will be able to help you.

    Good luck...

    PS:
    I personally had just one episode of "reactive hypoglycemia" involving just one strong coffee, a skipped breakfast and some physical exertion, and it felt exactly like the experiences you describe having with coffee. I did not lose consciousness, but the experience did leave me with some very subtle brain damage... (which I seem to be adapting to finally after 6 weeks.)
  • by raygundan ( 16760 ) on Wednesday March 08, 2006 @12:09PM (#14875639) Homepage
    It's not the dose that matters here, it's whether or not you have a particular gene that slows the metabolism of caffeine.

    For folks with the gene, even two cups was harmful. For those without, the more the merrier. Please read more carefully.
  • Re:Aspartame (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 08, 2006 @12:29PM (#14875859)
    Your dietician needs to go back to med school. Yes, aspartame breaks down to formadehyde as the tail end of the process of your small intestine converting it to methanol. Formaldehyde (from methanol) is a normal chemical to be found in your body as a normal byproduct of normal digestion.

    The amount of methanol produced by Aspartame in the body is 10% of the ingested aspartame. Assuming all the methonal is further converted to formadehyde, a normal 12 oz soft drink causes only 1/6th the amount of methonal production as an equivalent drink of Tomato Juice (which contains no Aspartame, but contains other "natural" chemicals that produce methanol).

    The actual numbers are this:

    A 12 oz diet soda contains 225 mg of Aspartame (approximately 0.05% of the drink is aspartame). That generates 22.5 mg of methanol, or about 0.005% of the drink will become methanol. We will assume all the methanol becomes formaldehyde (worst case). The LD50 of formaldehyde is 100mg/kg. For an average male of 75 kg, that would mean 7500mg. A total of 333 sodas must be drank by this average male to assure death, and they must be drank fast enough to counteract the body's natural ability to rid itself of formaldehyde.

    Of course, hyponatremia will set in, without exercise or dry heat, with drinking about 3 or more litres of fluid per hour, for serveral hours straight. 333 sodas will contain 3996 oz of liquid, or about 118 litres. Anyone attempting death through ingestion of Aspartame by soda comsumption will surely die of hyponatremia far before they have reached even small amount of their goal!

    Feel free to ask your dietician to verify this!
  • by graikor ( 127470 ) on Wednesday March 08, 2006 @02:05PM (#14876866) Journal
    I'm more than a little concerned, not because coffee makes me jittery (it does), but because I seem to keep caffeine in my system for a long time. If I drink a caffeinated beverage after noon, there's a good chance I may still have enough caffeine in my system to keep me awake after 2:00 a.m.

    I've known for some time that I process caffeine more slowly than many of my friends, but with the results of this new study (and a family history of heart disease), I believe I will have to seriously reduce my coffee intake.

    Bummer...
  • by gordguide ( 307383 ) on Wednesday March 08, 2006 @03:23PM (#14877594)
    Q: " ... In light of other studies linking antioxidants in coffee to a reduction in heart disease, who is right? ..."

    A: Since it's the presence of a gene that matters which is right, Check family history:
    Look for heart disease or diabetes (essentially, the same thing as far as your likelihood of heart disease goes). If found, avoid coffee.
    Check family history again, look for average age at death. If less than 60 for males, assume heart attack, avoid coffee.
    For females, ignore childbearing age, look for deaths aged 40~60. If found, assume heart disease, avoid coffee.

    If most of your ancestors and siblings seem to live past 70, assume decent heart, drink coffee.
    If most live past 80, you may safely ignore cause of death, even if from heart attack, because they didn't "really" die of a heart attack, they died because they were healthy and got old, like all healthy people do and everyone dies of something. Drink coffee.
  • by Calyth ( 168525 ) on Wednesday March 08, 2006 @04:47PM (#14878347)
    In another study, they said that caffeine can help Ashkenazi women to reduce their risk of getting breast cancer. However, the most effective dosage exceeds 4 cups.
    Just like anything that a human can ingest, moderation is the key. Try drinking gallons of water in a short period and see whether that would kill you.

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