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Study Says Cell Phones Can Interfere With Planes 469

3x37 writes "The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette website reports a study by Cargenie Mellon University researchers found that cell phones do interfere with airplane cockpit instruments. The researchers came to this takeaway conclusion: "devices like cell phones 'will, in all likelihood, someday cause an accident by interfering with critical cockpit instruments such as GPS receivers.'""
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Study Says Cell Phones Can Interfere With Planes

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  • Re:Hmmm... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Mark Programmer ( 228585 ) on Wednesday March 01, 2006 @11:45AM (#14826703) Homepage
    According to Carnegie Mellon's alumni page (http://www.epp.cmu.edu/httpdocs/people/alumni.htm l [cmu.edu]), G. William Strauss's graduate thesis was "Portable electronic devices onboard commercial aircraft: Assessing the risks." Published 2005.

    Any CMU students willing to use their library access and a photocopier for the expansion of human knowledge before the IEEE article is published in March?
  • Re:'Consideration'? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Niebieski ( 781986 ) on Wednesday March 01, 2006 @12:30PM (#14827214)

    If not, however, there's no point in lifting the ban, as an unassisted cellphone call has an extremely poor chance of getting through above 2000 feet (which would be during landings and takeoffs...precisely when you cell calls can be most hazardous).

    You are right about phones not being able to place calls above 2k feet (I fly a cessna and was once able to receive a call at 1.5k, but not higher). However, do you know what a CDMA phone does when it has difficulty communicating with a cell tower? It increases its signal to full power (.6w if I'm not mistaken). How convenient, since like you mentionned, when at 2k, you're in the flight's most critical phases (i.e. takeoff and landing). Something it would not have to do with AirCell, because the "cell" is so much closer to the phone (i.e. it is in the plane). CDMA is perfectly at ease at -90dBm. Not much power required here.
  • Re:Hmmm... (Score:3, Informative)

    by Devynn ( 948459 ) on Wednesday March 01, 2006 @12:46PM (#14827437)
    I've got my private and instrument pilot's license. At one point during my instrument license training I had my cell phone with me and recevied a call because I didn't shut it off. When the call started ringing, my instruments I would use for landing in Instrument Meterological Conditions began to behave erradicly. Granted, my phone was in my pocket and in close proximity to the instruments but still, they can cause interference. I'm not sure how much interference someone's cell in the back of the plane is going to cause, but if enough people are on them, I can see issues arising.
  • by Alioth ( 221270 ) <no@spam> on Wednesday March 01, 2006 @12:56PM (#14827544) Journal
    Any IFR certified GPS receiver *must* include a feature called RAIM - Receiver Autonomous Integrity Monitoring. The point of RAIM is that the receiver can detect when it is giving erroneous navigational information. At that point the receiver 'RAIM flags' rather than giving the crew misleading information. The crew can then ask for radar vectors (in the highly unlikely event that GPS is their sole navigation system) from ATC because they know it's wrong.

    Cell phones DO interfere with aircraft radios though, and I have first hand experience. We were about to line up for an ILS approach into runway 08 at Ronaldsway. The pilot, a friend of mine, was making his first ever night IFR approach (it was raining, and cloud bases were about 800 feet, so it wasn't a really sticky IFR approach but it was still in the clouds and at night). I was monitoring his progress from the right seat. Sadly, he had forgotten to turn off his mobile phone.

    His wife decided to phone him just as we were intercepting the localizer for 08. All audio on the aircraft was obliterated by this noise: 'bip b b bip b b bip b b bip b b bip b b bip brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr' (if you have a GSM phone on European frequencies, it's likely you've heard this noise - cell phones interfere with almost *any* radio and audio equipment in Europe probably due to some harmonic off the frequency used) until he managed to shut the thing off. It was extremely distracting to say the least, and obliterated any chance of hearing any ATC instructions. It did *not* however intefere with the localiser or glideslope receiver which showed normal indications throughout. I took control while he found his phone to shut it off.

    I doubt a cell phone will ever cause an accident due to disruption of navigational equipment (especially GPS) but it may do due to distraction at a critical phase of flight (especially if it occurs during a high workload situation, or perhaps when some unrelated emergency is occurring).
  • by Alioth ( 221270 ) <no@spam> on Wednesday March 01, 2006 @01:11PM (#14827691) Journal
    The study is flawed. Flight crew do not rely on a single source of data to tell them what's going on ever (well, at least professional ones don't - included in that are private pilots who fly in a professional manner). In addition, IFR GPS receivers have something called RAIM which enables them to know and inform the crew when their navigational accuracy is questionable.

    Airliners today use not only GPS, but INS (inertial navigation - which requires no external inputs once it's set running) as well as old-fashioned VOR receivers. They can also ask for radar vectors off ATC if all their navaids were to fail.
  • Comment removed (Score:4, Informative)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday March 01, 2006 @01:23PM (#14827851)
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